Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Tonington

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...and it cost American tax payers $666,000 to test the hypothesis. Wow. Good thing that debt problem was solved.
 

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I'm sure lead pills would cure stupid politicians and bureaucrats. Eliminate the first ten, if the problem is not solved replace clip and repeat until positive results are produced.
 

Tonington

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Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

-but Hydrogen Peroxide does......for pennies a day at that .

And then die from an embolism, for only pennies a day! It's highly toxic. It exists in your body inside cells (phagocytes) which ingest pathogens and produce the radical oxygen species in respiratory bursts, and is kept compartmentalized because it's toxic both to invaders and the phagocyte, what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff? It burns...for pennies a day.
 

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And then die from an embolism, for only pennies a day! It's highly toxic. It exists in your body inside cells (phagocytes) which ingest pathogens and produce the radical oxygen species in respiratory bursts, and is kept compartmentalized because it's toxic both to invaders and the phagocyte, what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff? It burns...for pennies a day.

Not sure of the health benefits to humans (I've yet to see a study on it) but I do know that I mixed 35% food grade peroxide 100:1 with distilled water and misted my house plants with it. The results were incredible.
 

Tonington

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Not sure of the health benefits to humans (I've yet to see a study on it) but I do know that I mixed 35% food grade peroxide 100:1 with distilled water and misted my house plants with it. The results were incredible.

Well, first of all it's toxic. If you dillute it to levels low enough to mitigate the risks of exposure, then I have to wonder how effective it could be as a treatment for a virus that hides within our own cells. There's no evidence for any claim that it cures AIDS.
 

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Well, first of all it's toxic. If you dillute it to levels low enough to mitigate the risks of exposure, then I have to wonder how effective it could be as a treatment for a virus that hides within our own cells. There's no evidence for any claim that it cures AIDS.
Are there any safe levels of toxins like Chlorine and Fluoride that the body can handle and what exactly are the health benefits?

We are constantly being exposed to and ingesting toxins. There will never be tests done on food grade peroxide because there is no money in it. Thousands of people die every year from pharmaceutical drugs. Most of those drugs are toxic to the human body and cause all sorts of dangerous side effects. Why are you getting all up in arms about peroxide?
 

Tonington

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Are there any safe levels of toxins like Chlorine and Fluoride that the body can handle and what exactly are the health benefits?

Yes. For fluoride the benefit is reduced dental caries. For chlorine the benefit is disinfected drinking water.

There will never be tests done on food grade peroxide because there is no money in it. Thousands of people die every year from pharmaceutical drugs. Most of those drugs are toxic to the human body and cause all sorts of dangerous side effects. Why are you getting all up in arms about peroxide?
I'm up in arms about untested claims. I know that hydrogen peroxide is an effective treatment for all sorts of things, it's used in animal health against parasites, and it's sold by pharmaceuticals like the company I work for.

But HIV resides inside the cells responsible for immune function. How does the peroxide get in there and kill the virus without killing the cells in the rest of our tissues before it gets there? Telling people they can cure their AIDS with unproven treatments which are also toxic is unethical and potentially very dangerous.
 

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My god, if they're funding the fundamentalists that much, who knows how much they're paying the warming alarmists !!
 

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It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.
 

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It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.

I think a lot of "quack" medicine gets credibility which more properly belongs to the "mind over matter" phenomenum.
 

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It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.
What are we discussing here, pharmaceutical quackery or natural remedy quackery or both? How many die each year from pharmaceuticals and how many from natural remedies? Quacks are everywhere in every school of medicine. It is human nature.
 

Tonington

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Belief cures AIDS. Faith cures AIDS. A will to live cures AIDS. Pharmaceuticals kill AIDS victims.

If you take hydrogen peroxide for an AIDS treatment, then it's a pharmaceutical...any chemical substance people use for treating a disease is called a pharmaceutical. AIDS kills more AIDS patients than the pharmaceuticals used to treat AIDS do. It's all about weighing risks. Cancer therapies like chemo are toxic too, but they work in some cases. Again, the risks have to be weighed.
 

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If you take hydrogen peroxide for an AIDS treatment, then it's a pharmaceutical...any chemical substance people use for treating a disease is called a pharmaceutical. AIDS kills more AIDS patients than the pharmaceuticals used to treat AIDS do. It's all about weighing risks. Cancer therapies like chemo are toxic too, but they work in some cases. Again, the risks have to be weighed.
Semantics. You know I wa referring to toxic drugs issued by doctors and pushed by pharmaceutical companies.
Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body. Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.
 

Tonington

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Semantics.

Not really, anything you put in your body that can effect changes can potentially cause harm as well. It doesn't matter if it's an herb extract, or a synthesized chemical found in herbs.

Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body.

No side effects? BS. It looks to have very favourable properties. But if it can kill cancer, it's not going to be without side effects. That's pure grade bolonium.

Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.

No excuse? That's your value judgement. Don't be pushing your values onto others.