Durban Climate Change Conference 2011
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He looked out his window. That's good enough for some. A long time ago, people knew the Earth was flat because of what they could see.
Why not? That's how I came to the realization that the climate, amongst other things, was changing.
Well, for starters what one person can see is limited to geography. Second, there's no quantification or measurements which could be analyzed. No methods.
Eagle is contradicting a whole body of empirical evidence with " it looks the same as I remember it". Which is crap.
Well, I'm with Canada on this one. I hope they don't sign a Kyoto II and we just continue on our own way by slowly improving our technology, making more efficient systems etc. I think pollution is more of an issue than GH gases, but that's just me. Clean air and water are far more important.
JMHO
JMHO
Isn't one of the fundamentals of research, comparison? I'm an outdoorsman, I have noticed great changes in many things over the years. All I have to do is, compare what is happening in nature now, to what it was like even 5 years ago. The changes are drastic enough, that they are easily noticeable. To me anyways.
Perceptions maybe?
Sorta kinda but sometimes not really. If you have treatment groups to compare, then yes the comparisons obviously matter. Observational research doesn't necessarilly have to be compared against anything. It's just observations, people can draw comparisons afterwards. But in order to draw comparisons, there's many things to consider. The who, what, when, where, and how are really what is fundamental if you want to make comparisons with observations. More importantly, it must be documented.
In Eagles case, there are comparisons which could be made, but they are dependent on many questions first. But since he has zero documentation (no data), these can't really be answered. Has there been significant erosion? Is the land subsiding or rising? Is there significant depostion of material? Where were the measurements made? How were they made? When were they made? What is the expected sea level rise for Eagle's location? (mean sea level rise doesn't mean we should expect the same amount of sea level rise across the globe) How does the measured change in Eagle's location differ? Is it significant? Has the methodology changed or been consistent through the time series? If so how did it change?
And on, and on. That's what good looks like.
It's interesting to observe "end of world" hysteria among those unfortunates convinced their farts are destroying the planet. Science has proved PROVED that there is no such thing as green house gas.
They didn't work that great in that paper. They couldn't reproduce what happened in the pacific north west and the central plains drought was too far south.
If they are that far off on the recent past with knowns, how inaccurate are the future predictions when dealing with unknowns?
But good enough for you to cite as evidence supporting your predictions of future changes.
So, that's how good they are for you apparently.
No ... humans will never stop the climate from changing. We can do our best to limit pollution, but stopping the earth's climate from changing?
Why did the climate change when our ancestors were still in trees?