Occupy Wall Street Fail

damngrumpy

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The above graph is wrong to a great extent. The Tea Party and its obstructive attitude
has cost America its reputation in the world and cast the Republican Party in a very
negative light, That cost is enormous far worse than anything the Occupy Movement
has done. The drug overdose could have happened anywhere so that really doesn't
count.
 

Locutus

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Occupy until ‘2025’!


Now they want to Occupy the Future.
Determined Occupy Wall Street demonstrators have vowed they’re not leaving Zuccotti Park anytime soon, and their online agenda suggests they mean business -- with events scheduled through Oct. 26, 2025.
“Maybe it’s a typo?” said Patricia Moore, 58, of Cedar Street, chair of Community Board 1’s quality-of-life committee.
“It will be Occupy Wall Street’s grandchildren. The community board will have to fight to build a school over there.

Read more: Occupy Wall Street has events scheduled on online calendar until 2025 - NYPOST.com



 

Angstrom

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Here's an idea, occupy the foreclosed abandoned houses.
Turn them into mini Casino's take bets on how long it will take for the
Police to come evict them. And take off with all the profits. =)

If wall street can do it why not the 99%? =)
Then you get bailed out by finding a new abandoned house.
Hehe
 
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gopher

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Nobody arrested at Tea Bagger rallies?

That's because police refuse to arrest anyone who is a right winger. Remember when the moveon supporter was stomped on?





That's what happens when police decide to apply the law selectively. As for the idea that those rallies didn't cost anything, consider the cost of police, park cleanup, traffic redirection, etc. Those costs over the prolonged period of those rallies cost society plenty of money.
 

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The last time there was a riot in Greenwich Village was in late May when some teenaged idiots attacked a donut shop - something about overpricing I think it was.

The Village has always had its characters. Some of its shops pricey and catered to elitist type crowds. But for the most part it was full of down to earth groovy people. I spend much time there in my youth and have always been proud of my association with that turf and its folks.
 

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Locutus

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You started it. .













Anyway...

The absurdity of the OWS look-at-me sheeple was solidified in the first post of this thread.


And nobody should get a nose out of joint over an un-sourced image (as opposed to the many news and blog pieces in here by various members citing links and the 'real' and true veracity to their existence).

Best to remain calm and carry on son.
 

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Occupy Wall Street Success..

Vancouver goes to court to shut down Occupy camp

Vancouver officials launched legal action to shut down the Occupy Vancouver tent city Monday, in the latest effort to dislodge the protesters' camp from the city land it has occupied for more than three weeks.

Vancouver city manager Penny Ballem said Monday local government will seek an injunction in B.C. Supreme Court to remove the Occupy Vancouver protesters' tents, structures and belongings. The move comes after the city on Monday told occupiers to dismantle the camp on the grounds of the Vancouver Art Gallery.

Ballem said the city applied to the B.C. Supreme Court for leave to hear an injunction application on an expedited basis. The court granted the leave, setting a hearing for 2 p.m. Tuesday. "The encampment must come to an end," said Ballem. "But we want it to come to a peaceful end. "We do not have forever to discuss this," she said.

The move came as Occupy protesters in Victoria defied a Monday noon deadline imposed by municipal officials to dismantle their camp, and civic leaders across the country showed signs they are growing increasingly weary of the Occupy encampments in their cities.


But one expert says despite the steps taken toward shutting down the camps, officials across the country will have difficulty uprooting the weeks-old protests.

"If police use violence, it could have a backlash effect and people could turn out in greater numbers to support the occupiers," said Marc Ancelovici, who teaches sociology at McGill University in Montreal. "But if police manage to act diplomatically, it could mean the end of the occupation."

Ancelovici, who studies grassroots social movements, said he believes Occupy protesters scored points in the first days of the movement by getting their message across, but they now seem to be losing the public-opinion battle.

"There is no debate at all on the issues that the occupiers have raised, like equality, poverty and so on. The debate is only about the occupation as such and that plays in favour of the cities," he said.

Vancouver's decision to seek a court order to remove the protesters' tent city isn't about getting rid of the protesters, Ballem said.

"They can continue to protest," she said. "It is not about removing people."

The move came as the city ramped up its efforts to dig out the entrenched protesters following the death of a 23-year-old woman in the camp Saturday.

In separate weekend public appearances, Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson, mayoral candidate Suzanne Anton, and Ballem all took turns calling for the end of the encampment, pointing to the Saturday death of Ashlie Gough as evidence that it's time for the camp to come down.

The B.C. Coroners Service said Monday a preliminary autopsy concluded Gough did not die of foul play. The coroner added Gough had been dead for some time prior to her body being discovered Saturday afternoon.

Occupy Vancouver partici-pants pushed back against city officials who spent the weekend calling for the end of the protest camp, saying they aren't going anywhere.

"If we have to get scuffed up a bit (for the cause) I'm OK with that," Jay Peachy said. Another camper, Lauran Gill, also said occupiers will remain. "Once they get that injunction, people are not going to leave," she said. "People are willing to get arrested."

Protesters at the Occupy Victoria encampment were similarly resilient Monday, refusing to remove their tents and makeshift kitchens from Centennial Square despite threats from city officials who say they will seek a court injunction to have the structures removed.

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http://www.canada.com/Vancouver+goes+court+shut+down+Occupy+camp/5673203/story.html
 

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Occupiers part of grand alliance against the productive


Way back in 1968, after the riots at the Democratic Convention in Chicago, Mayor Daley declared that his forces were there to "preserve disorder." I believe that was one of Hizzoner's famous malapropisms. Forty-three years later, Jean Quan, mayor of Oakland, and the Oakland City Council have made "preserving disorder" the official municipal policy. On Wednesday, the "Occupy Oakland" occupiers rampaged through the city, shutting down the nation's fifth-busiest port, forcing stores to close, terrorizing those residents foolish enough to commit the reactionary crime of "shopping," destroying ATMs, spraying the Christ the Light Cathedral with the insightful observation "F**k", etc. And how did the Oakland City Council react? The following day they considered a resolution to express their support for "Occupy Oakland" and to call on the city administration to "collaborate with protesters."

At heart, Oakland's occupiers and worthless political class want more of the same fix that has made America the Brokest Nation in History: They expect to live as beneficiaries of a prosperous Western society without making any contribution to the productivity necessary to sustain it. This is the "idealism" that the media are happy to sentimentalize, and that enough poseurs among the corporate executives are happy to indulge – at least until the window smashing starts. To "occupy" Oakland or anywhere else, you have to have something to put in there. Yet the most striking feature of OWS is its hollowness. And in a strange way the emptiness of its threats may be a more telling indictment of a fin de civilization West than a more coherent protest movement could ever have mounted.


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Mark Steyn: Occupiers’ alliance with feckless political class | oakland, class, whole - Opinion - The Orange County Register
 

pgs

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The above graph is wrong to a great extent. The Tea Party and its obstructive attitude
has cost America its reputation in the world and cast the Republican Party in a very
negative light, That cost is enormous far worse than anything the Occupy Movement
has done. The drug overdose could have happened anywhere so that really doesn't
count.
Yes a bunch of gray haired citizens calling on the government to control spending has cost
America its reputation.Evil nasty teapartiers.
 

mentalfloss

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Occupy movement still effective without goals

The Students for a Democratic Society was a group of mostly college and graduate students who caught national attention for seeking idealistic changes in the United States in early 1960s. The group was concerned with combating entrenched racism, the nuclear arms race and economic inequality. Though overtly idealistic, the SDS has been credited with providing a foundation for the Civil Rights Movement and anti-war movement that has now become inextricably linked to the 1960s.

Similarly, the Occupy Wall Street movement has caught the imagination of the United States and the world. Globally, Occupy protests are springing up, protesting economic inequality and a variety of social injustices. While the protest has clearly demonstrated its staying power, some features of the movement need to be critically discussed and defined.

Occupy has outlived its initially predicted longevity, so it has been expected to list its concrete demands. In fact, Occupy’s insistence on not reifying its objectives may be one of its greatest strengths. The ambiguity of the protest is perfectly captured in its maxim: “We are the 99 percent.” It is this trait, as an Oct. 26 CNN article argued, links the movement to the best of “1960s America.”

If the Occupy movement were to list concrete demands, it could well be pigeonholed. Then, the potency of the movement is reduced to simply a list, as opposed to something greater: an idealistic shift in American politics.

No doubt, cynics and critics will marginalize the movement as quixotic, yet it is this appeal to idealism that eventually gets grounded in tangible action. As the aforementioned CNN article further explained, the Civil Rights Movement began with frustratingly vague maxims. That certainly sounds familiar.

More poignantly, the movement highlights the harrowing plight of the homeless. As easy as it is to criticize the top one percent, it is as easy to forget the bottom one percent. As an Oct. 31 New York Times article pointed out, protesters generally are alienating the homeless protesters. Granted, some are likely there for shelter and food, yet they are protesting against the same system as every other protester.

There are two broader lessons here: the movement must not in wholesale alienate a powerful voice that backs the sentiment of the movement. That such a massive portion of our citizenry wallows without a home can serve as proof of the legitimacy of the movement’s grievance.

Second, the protest intrinsically opposes the stereotype of the homeless as lazy and improvident; instead, it generally accepts them as people who find themselves unable to navigate the institutional labyrinth of inequality.

As a Nov. 3 Wall Street Journal reported, Occupy protests are being linked to violence.

The article details: “Occupy Wall Street protesters had just half a day to celebrate what they saw as their biggest victory so far: a daylong gathering in Oakland that drew thousands of people and led to the peaceful shutdown of the nation’s fifth-busiest port. Then… vandalism began.”

The article detailed most of the protesters nationwide, but most particularly those in Oakland, disavowed the acts of vandalism and violence. But there is not a uniform conclusion.

We turn again to the aforementioned Wall Street Journal: “This thing has to escalate so people see the violence and who is protecting the interests of the corporations,” said Denver protester Dwayne Hudson.

Indeed, it may well be the invocation of violence that sparks genuine action in favor the movement. At the very least, violence could be an attention-getter for a movement that, at face value, seeks to challenge dominant economic systems and flagrant income inequality – certainly not an easy order.

Occupy Movement Still Effective
 
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