BC RCMP Contract Up For 20 Year Renewal
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No - lets call truth truth. It was not out and out murder. Murder is planned and while I do not support what happened, I do know that not a single officer went there planning to kill anyone. It was a situation that was not planned at all and that is the main problem with the whole scene. Had any planning or thinking of any kind gone into it, it simply would not have gone down as it did. It's that kind of thinking from people like yourself JLM that gets other people riled up in an un-necessary manner. You would like a linch mob where none is required.
A man died when he should not have but it was not murder.
If you happen to run a red light or miss a stop sign and you plow into another car, killing the driver - should you be charged with murder?
If the training was much like my son had and I believe it would be, it's certainly more than a video. I also do not know if RCMP are required to "experience" it's use. My son was not required to but the chances of him ever having to use one are almost zero in his line of work.
692 people dead by taser tells me no one should be allowed to use it. People do have to remember that a police officer cannot always just quietly walk up to a person and tell them they are under arrest and have the person stand ready for the cuffs. It's instinct for most "bad guys" to fight. Then when the arresting officer fights back, we have police brutality. They tried to find a way around that with the taser which obviously has not worked and so many people are saying "what was wrong with the old way". The call of brutality is what's wrong. How does the person who is not involved know the strength of the person fighting the officer and how far the officer has to go to stop the person and actually arrest them? People take and show selective photo's. How often do you see a video of someone beating the officer? Never. I've never seen or heard anyone say "police brutalized".
That's just not true. They got a call from airport security. They barged in there thinking they had to protect the other occupants of the airport. Now they got an overblown story that they should have verified and assessed but they did not but again - they did not enter the bldg. with the intent to kill. Juan is a man who thinks things through before flying off the handle. He checks out his facts. You should google "manslaughter in Canada" definitions since you so want these men charged with murder.
Yep, that was a bit harsh, I'll amend that to aggravated manslaughter.
VanIsle;That's just not true. They got a call from airport security. They barged in there thinking they had to protect the other occupants of the airport. Now they got an overblown story that they should have verified and assessed but they did not but again - they did not enter the bldg. with the intent to kill. Juan is a man who thinks things through before flying off the handle. He checks out his facts. You should google "manslaughter in Canada" definitions since you so want these men charged with murder.[/QUOTE said:
Canada is too big for a province like BC to have its police force run 3000 miles away. Distance still matters in this world. The RCMP hides in away because it can, they belong on the prairies, not the big city like Vancouver. They won't charge officers who get out of control, they have abdicated their responsibility, being a dysfunctional mess.
You are so wrong. Do you have a big sign in front of your house that says I hate the RCMP and anything similar like The Monarchy? Why do you talk so much about something you know so little about?
Plenty of people think the RCMP is done in BC. Change is good and it has to be forced on some organisations because they don't see the writing on the wall. RCMP is a rural force, most people now live in the city and if you're from Vancouver, and not enough urban people don't want to work for years in N. Sask, then NWT. Poor training and recruits led to the Polish man in Vancouver dying.
Are you just asking for the Vancouver area? There is VPD. Abbottsford has their own. Nelson. Victoria. They are around. Just not too effective outside their own areas.
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I'll ask you again - why do you have so much to say about something you know so little about? You seem to only have the one answer. I wouldn't get your hopes up DM. This province would not survive without the RCMP.
Sometimes I can be a good thunker!!! 8O
BC is growing up. Did you know you can park along side a curb and walk down sidewalks in Burnaby now instead of parking in a ditch and walking on a crushed shale footpath? Maybe one day they'll modernize enough to have their own police force.
We have our own police force Iggy. They are called the RCMP!!!!!! We don't need any other.
Burnaby is one of the biggest detachments.
No one or any organisation is indespensible in this world. It's propaganda to believe there will be anarchy without the RCMP. They could be replaced piecemeal, keep the RCMP in rural BC, and replace them with a regional force in Metro Vancouver. This take it or leave it stuff from the RCMP is nonsense.
They cannot be replaced piecemeal. The end of the contract is the end of the contract. If it's not signed, I fully expect they will start transferring members out of the province by the start of the New Year rather than train any new Troops for other provinces. Towns and cities will then be responsible for their own policing costs. Rural areas will be without police so things like growing pot and any type of criminal will have a hay day residing in these un-policed areas. Those will likely be the first areas left without "the law" because the members stationed there will need jobs. They will be the first to apply for jobs with city police forces. Small towns will not be able to police their towns because they will not be able to afford it. People have this strange notion that it will be cheaper and more honest to have their towns policed by a provincial force. Well - it's not going to be. Some mayors are beginning to stand up and say that they cannot afford to pay policing costs. The province isn't going to pay for it for you. Taxes will be on the "high" rise. The really HIGH rise. So many areas of BC are policed by the RCMP that it's going to cost a small fortune to replace them. I've worked for City Hall. I've watched police commanders try to get more police officers because there is not enough to police the city and - I've watched the powers that be give them 2 more bodies when they have maybe asked for 5 - 6. Just wait until they have to put out the same kind of money for pay but cut back on the numbers watching over your city. I see nothing but trouble.
Where do you come up with this BS? Ontario has had referendums, most recently in regard to electoral reform (2007).
You need to expand your horizons a bit, try leaving your village/town/city once in a while, or even better, another province.
Changing to anything other than the RCMP is going to cost money. And there is a high probability that the new force will consist of the same bullies that worked for the old force. There really would be no change. What the RCMP needs to focus on is the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality.
BC needs the RCMP. Go spend some time off of the main highways in the gutter hole towns, and reserves. You will geta certain level of appreciation for the job the RCMP do, they put with alot of ****. Ive seen alot of crazy **** in BC, ive been here for the last 5-6 months. You guys need more cops. Its still cowboys and indians out here!!!!
But id still say northern saskatchewan and Manitoba are worse
But id still say northern saskatchewan and Manitoba are worse