Time To Fire Don Cherry Off CBC

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Unfortunately he's a hockey Icon and lots of kids look up to him.
I would love to have seen Him tell Rick Rypien to suck it up.

I see Cherry's point in this whole mess. Rypien, Grimson, et al made a deliberate choice to pursue a career in hockey knowing full well that their strongest marketable skill was that of a fighter. None of the guys pissed and moaned about the possible effects while they were collecting 7 figure paycheques, but once the cheques stop and they are forced to pursue alternate career options, magically the depression sets in.

It's no surprise that they're depressed, the gravy train made it's final stop and now they have to co-exist with all of the little people that actually work for a living.
 

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I see Cherry's point in this whole mess. Rypien, Grimson, et al made a deliberate choice to pursue a career in hockey knowing full well that their strongest marketable skill was that of a fighter. None of the guys pissed and moaned about the possible effects while they were collecting 7 figure paycheques, but once the cheques stop and they are forced to pursue alternate career options, magically the depression sets in.

It's no surprise that they're depressed, the gravy train made it's final stop and now they have to co-exist with all of the little people that actually work for a living.
He didnt get into hockey to be a fighter,he was just tough and very good at it,his brother and father both played in juinors and were also very good at it more then just fighting.
If you read the article in the Winnipeg free press you will see he was much more in hockey then just a goon.Ricks career was just starting,he just signed with Winnipeg this year.I can tell you he wasnt in it for the money and he volunteered lots of his time here with hockey camps for the kids.
With 5 ice rinks in a community of 10,000 we put out a lot of hockey players,Rypien,Wakaluk and Houda all came from my home town here.
 
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Rick was easily capable of refusing that role on the team. The only thing stopping him was the potential of losing that income he generated from his employment.

In the end, he made his choice and has to accept both the good and the bad as per his decision.
 

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Rick was easily capable of refusing that role on the team. The only thing stopping him was the potential of losing that income he generated from his employment.

In the end, he made his choice and has to accept both the good and the bad as per his decision.

The medical knowledge today is irrefutable - Fighting - dirty hits - head shots - can cause concussion effect - concussion damage is cumulative - Leads to early death, dementia, linked to Parkinson's disease.
 

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Rick was easily capable of refusing that role on the team. The only thing stopping him was the potential of losing that income he generated from his employment.

In the end, he made his choice and has to accept both the good and the bad as per his decision.
He took a few years off playing with the Canucks so money wasnt an issue,he wasnt in it for that.
Your stereotyping him,those that know the Rypien family know different.
He loved hockey period.
 

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So When the troops come back and suffer severe depression and other related mental illness because of the trauma they witnessed does Cherry tell them to suck it up too?

What does it matter if he does? They would probably avoid watching him in the future.

The real question, is if you turn on Don Cherry you know what you will get. I don't believe anybody truly takes him seriously. Even if you wanted to, the first cautionary clue is usually his outfit. And if you are a delicate flower, you probably shouldn't be watching him. Its not like he comes on at random times. You pretty much know when he will be on and can easily avoid hurting your sensibilities.
 

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So When the troops come back and suffer severe depression and other related mental illness because of the trauma they witnessed does Cherry tell them to suck it up too?

Look I get that your not pleased with Cherry's comments, but what does any of this crap have to do with soldiers having PTSD. Better yet, if you are going to start making comparisons to soldiers how bout you check out the salary difference between a soldier and a millionaire hockey player. Check out the healthcare available to a soldier and a millionaire hockey player. Check out what kind of mental health is available.

Just like your comment to me about showing sensitivity towards depression. Ridiculous. It's too bad that the hockey player you mentioned from your home town took his life, in fact it's quite sad, but I've seen more than my fair share of this sort of thing and perhaps you ought to think just a little when you make a comparison between a soldier who is exposed to horrors that are life changing to a millionaire hockey player who gets in a scrap on the ice.

By the way, did Rick Rypien have drug issues?

Maybe instead of complaining with soldier comparisons and riffing on Don Cherry (which by the way just fuels his already great ratings) you should demand Gary Bettman clean up the NHL.
 
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What does it matter if he does? They would probably avoid watching him in the future.

The real question, is if you turn on Don Cherry you know what you will get. I don't believe anybody truly takes him seriously. Even if you wanted to, the first cautionary clue is usually his outfit. And if you are a delicate flower, you probably shouldn't be watching him. Its not like he comes on at random times. You pretty much know when he will be on and can easily avoid hurting your sensibilities.

You've got that right, nobody with an ounce of sanity would be caught shot to death in a sh*t house in one of Cherry's getups. :smile:
 

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The medical knowledge today is irrefutable - Fighting - dirty hits - head shots - can cause concussion effect - concussion damage is cumulative - Leads to early death, dementia, linked to Parkinson's disease.

That knowledge has been known for a very long time, it isn't anything new. In fact, all anyone needed to do was to consider the effects that Ali suffered.

Rypien would have been privy to this from considering someone like Ali, or even speaking with his family doctor, team doctors, etc..

He took a few years off playing with the Canucks so money wasnt an issue,he wasnt in it for that.
Your stereotyping him,those that know the Rypien family know different.
He loved hockey period.


Fair enough, but the question still remains: If he was uncomfortable with that role or was concerned with the effects, why continue on? For that matter, no one had a gun to Rick's head demanding that he join the NHL at all.
 

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That knowledge has been known for a very long time, it isn't anything new. In fact, all anyone needed to do was to consider the effects that Ali suffered.

Rypien would have been privy to this from considering someone like Ali, or even speaking with his family doctor, team doctors, etc..




Fair enough, but the question still remains: If he was uncomfortable with that role or was concerned with the effects, why continue on? For that matter, no one had a gun to Rick's head demanding that he join the NHL at all.

I know that - reason i mentioned Parkinson's - Another is the NFL payers Assoc is suing the owners for hiding the impact of concussion. Watch this suit - The NHL will be next if it is successful.

The technology is there.


Helmet sensors to monitor hockey concussions - Edmonton - CBC News

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...sor-hopes-to-give-coaches-trainers-a-heads-up
 

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So When the troops come back and suffer severe depression and other related mental illness because of the trauma they witnessed does Cherry tell them to suck it up too?
What a ridiculous comparison.

I would hope so, otherwise he'd be a puke and a hypocrite, wouldn't he?
Not only that, but they'd be spoiling the fun for the next generation of soldiers.
Really? You too?
 

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I know that - reason i mentioned Parkinson's - Another is the NFL payers Assoc is suing the owners for hiding the impact of concussion. Watch this suit - The NHL will be next if it is successful.

The technology is there.


Helmet sensors to monitor hockey concussions - Edmonton - CBC News

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...sor-hopes-to-give-coaches-trainers-a-heads-up

The NFL has not mandated helmets which help prevent concussions. They are optional. This is why the NFLPA is likely figuring on winning. The NHL probably is in the same boat with regards to forcing its players to do anything. They still have not mandated face masks.
 

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The NFL has not mandated helmets which help prevent concussions. They are optional. This is why the NFLPA is likely figuring on winning. The NHL probably is in the same boat with regards to forcing its players to do anything. They still have not mandated face masks.

When did they become optional?
 

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The NFL has not mandated helmets which help prevent concussions. They are optional. This is why the NFLPA is likely figuring on winning. The NHL probably is in the same boat with regards to forcing its players to do anything. They still have not mandated face masks.

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They were never mandatory, so basically they "became optional" whenever the universe began or whatever.

I would agree that they should have been mandatory.
 

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I would hope so, otherwise he'd be a puke and a hypocrite, wouldn't he?
Not only that, but they'd be spoiling the fun for the next generation of soldiers.

Using injured Soldiers to make a point as stated above - Well that is disgusting - In my opinion.
Please define fun - Killing - Having friends killed - Them seeing their friends body parts blown all over hells half acre - Nightmares - marriage breakdown - No one hires you - Tell me where the fun is.