'Royal' returns for Canada's armed forces

coldstream

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If they really want to reinstate a sense of identity and integrity to the Armed Forces again, they should undo another great travesty imposed on the Forces (this time by Chretien) and re-instate the Canadian Airborne Regiment... not as some kind of 'democratic', anti-elitist, rotational tour assignment, which led to all the problems in Somalia.. but as an elite fast reaction and mobile Light Infantry brigade.. 'tip of the spear' special forces for reconnaissance and initial engagement.
 

mentalfloss

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You're going to be conscripted, Mental... sorry to break it to ya. :p

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Corduroy

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maybe we can start very slowly, it symbolizes what country it represents, then we can
move on to something else. chew on that first.

it shows others all round the world what country a canadian represents when they travel
with the flag showing on luggage etc.

if one comes down with memory loss while in lower slobovia, but you happen to have a maple
leaf symbol showing, it tells others where to send you. etc etc

it sorts out all nationalities, by recognizing your flag from other flags, you can remember
you are a canadian, da.

we are an independent country, and are allowed to have our own flag.

So it symbolizes Canada. When someone says "people died for the flag" they really mean people died for Canada, don't they? It's hardly an argument in support of the old flag over the new flag then. The symbol is arbitrary. What those people died for is unaffected by the change in flag. Both flags represent Canada.

Except when you consider the reasons for the First World War. That war was a war between empires. The Canadians who fought and died in that war fought for imperialism - specifically British imperialism. Though the symbols remain arbitrary, the old flag is probably more representative of British imperialism than the new one - incorporating the arbitrary symbol of Britain into it and resembling of British military flags.
 

55Mercury

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Aw hell.

Man I got mixed feelings on this. Yeah, sure I think the changes should never have been done in the first place, but making those changes way back when they did, when we weren't so indebted, didn't cost nearly as much as it's going to cost to change it all back and at a time when we can least afford it. And I doubt such a move holds any mileage to endear Quebec separatists to us. But if we're going to further alienate Quebec anyways, I'd sooner drop metric and official bilingualism.

It's all just so much politicking. How about our representatives just go back to referring to our armed forces as royal this and that, so that instead of throwing away tons of paper the unborn tax slaves (future generations) have already paid for, they should use it all up first before they use anything with new letterhead on it?

It's barely a snowflake on the tip of the iceberg, but then not wasting our money would be a symbolic gesture we could better appreciate. Believe me, the waste in government is astoundingly unfathomable.
 

55Mercury

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This is Canadian government we're talking. They'd actually spend more to tell us how they're not wasting money than they will on actually wasting it.....
That would be funny if it wasn't true.

I don't know which school of economics the administrators of our governments have gone to, but obviously it's the wrong one because it's NOT WORKING!
 

gerryh

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For some...a handshake is as binding as a written contract...for others principles is something you pay lip service to...and only when it doesn't inconvenience them too much..
What is realy rare is someone willing to give his life for a principle...
And I'm not talking about the brainwashed fools blowing themselves up for 72 virgins...


Wow, and I imagine you just can not see what's wrong with this, can you.


Why are some peoples "principles" worth a life and others are not? Who get's to decide one is worth more than another?
 

DaSleeper

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Wow, and I imagine you just can not see what's wrong with this, can you.


Why are some peoples "principles" worth a life and others are not? Who get's to decide one is worth more than another?

Maybe because you read (past tense) giving one's life for the principles of others as opposed to giving one's life for one's own principles.
 

gerryh

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Maybe because you read (past tense) giving one's life for the principles of others as opposed to giving one's life for one's own principles.


So, going to war (WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) would be in line with the suicide bombers since personal principles are not involved.
 

Goober

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Wow, and I imagine you just can not see what's wrong with this, can you.


Why are some peoples "principles" worth a life and others are not? Who get's to decide one is worth more than another?

That is a personal decison. When you join the Military you sign up for unlimited liability, injury and death. No other asks that. So a personal decision.
 

gerryh

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Nope Not if you join the force of your own free will....


so, a suicide bomber that does it by his/her own free will is the same then. And don't be throwing out the "brainwash" crap, cause I can throw the same thing out concerning 18 year old kids that join the armed forces.


You getting it yet?
 

DaSleeper

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so, a suicide bomber that does it by his/her own free will is the same then. And don't be throwing out the "brainwash" crap, cause I can throw the same thing out concerning 18 year old kids that join the armed forces.


You getting it yet?
A suicide bomber goes out with the intent of causing harm to defenceless civilian to cause terror...which is why they are called terrorists,....the soldier's intent is to destroy the opponent's military.....
You're the one not getting it .....but I like the way you dance:lol:
 

gerryh

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A suicide bomber goes out with the intent of causing harm to defenceless civilian to cause terror...which is why they are called terrorists,....the soldier's intent is to destroy the opponent's military.....
You're the one not getting it .....but I like the way you dance:lol:


and what has that got to do with giving ones life for ones principles.
 

DaSleeper

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and what has that got to do with giving ones life for ones principles.

One does die sometimes in war....
But that wasn't what I was talking about originaly....
You're the one who keeps switching dances..and you keep leading all over the place...until you find a step that suits you?:smile:
 

gerryh

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One does die sometimes in war....
But that wasn't what I was talking about originaly....
You're the one who keeps switching dances..and you keep leading all over the place...until you find a step that suits you?:smile:


Nope, I just expanded on your statement and gave examples of how your narrow minded and bigoted opinion was wrong. The dance was to give you a chance to see the error of your ways. Obviously you are incapable of doing that.

Oh yes, and by the way "one" can not "die sometimes in war".