Muslims in Canada.......Support for Terror

coldstream

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JPII...a damn good Jesuit. What seperates Catholicism from Jesuit Catholicism? Read up and then get back to me please.

JPII was not a Jesuit.. he was ordained a priest in a secret seminary run by the Archbishop of Krakow covertly under the Nazi occupation. He originally intended to enter a Carmelite monastery.. but was persuaded his obvious gifts of communication and connection with the secular world could be put to better use than in solitary ascetic contemplation.


The answer to your question is that there is NO difference between Catholicism and 'Jesuit' Catholicism. The Jesuits great founder, St. Ignatius Loyola, a soldier who suffered crippling injuries in battle, conceived the Order as the 'tip of the spear' of the Catholic faith.. an Order of missionaries and teachers.. whose first obligation was obedience to the Holy Father. Traditionally they have attracted adventurers.. and sometimes free thinkers.. which has led to a thread of dissent, even heresy, in its leadership over the last few decades.

I'm not wanting to get into a religious debate but the arrogance of basically saying Christianity is a much more civilized and enlightening religion than Islam, is not only unequivocally incorrect it reeks of bigotry and intolerance.



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.. "you will know them by their fruits".. Christ's admonition and caveat regarding false prophets.
 
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DaSleeper

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I heard it the first time.
Islam isn't a threat to western civilization nor does the Muslim in the video imply it is, you're very confused.
I can post the video again if you want, it's easy...after all in the middle of the video editing I was doing for my personal videos, It was easy for me to capture the part you were arguing about ..just for you:smile:
I'm not denying what was said, :lol: . You don't understand what was said is the problem, you only hear what you want.

You don't even remember what you wrote or you are just trying to dance and evade....
And you're not good at it like others here.
 

petros

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JPII was not a Jesuit.. he was ordained a priest in a secret seminary run by the Archbishop of Krakow covertly under the Nazi occupation. He originally intended to enter a Carmelite monastery.. but was persuaded his obvious gifts of communication and connection with the secular world could be put to better use than in solitary ascetic contemplation.


The answer to your question is that there is NO difference between Catholicism and 'Jesuit' Catholicism. The Jesuits great founder, St. Ignatius Loyola, a soldier who suffered crippling injuries in battle, conceived the Order as the 'tip of the spear' of the Catholic faith.. an Orders of missionaries and teachers.. whose first obligation was obedience to the Holy Father. Traditionally they have attracted adventurers.. and some times free thinkers.. which has led to a thread of dissent, even heresy, in its leadership over the last few decades.
Top notch ansewer from the Laity. What was the name of the "secret seminary"?Jesuit Collegium Posnaniae?
 

DaSleeper

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Some kick ass at Stepdance pretty good, eh?... or are you out of Sturgeon now?
Yup, I left a bit early because a sister in law of my wife passed away and I missed the Bluegrass in River.
I haven't been to the stepdancing and fiddle thin in a couple of year.
I was gonna go and visit John Belerose (maybe you know him) up your way, but I called his place a few times with no answer, then my wife told me he was probably gone to the country festival in New Liskeard...
Oh well, my trailer Is just about ready to park for the winter.....went down to 5C on the night of the full moon.
 

coldstream

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What was the name of the "secret seminary"?Jesuit Collegium Posnaniae?

No, i'm not sure what seminary's name was, or it might have the name of the Seminary of St. Stanislaus, patron saint of Krakow. But it was not a Jesuit institution and lasted as a clandestine organization during the War.. when priests, clerics and seminarians were routinely rounded up and executed or shipped to concentration camps by the Nazis.
 
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CDNBear

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Really? Okay. I helped DaSleeper write you a love letter. He's head over heels. I'm not sure if he has balls to send it and I hope this doesn't spoil your Valentines Day.
Oh I already knew DaS loved me, like the little brother he never wanted. I guess you misunderstood what was being dictated to you.

I'm not wanting to get into a religious debate but the arrogance of basically saying Christianity is a much more civilized and enlightening religion than Islam, is not only unequivocally incorrect it reeks of bigotry and intolerance.
Would that be why the basis of the laws of North America, that protect the rights of the people, are Christian?

You don't understand what was said is the problem, you only hear what you want.
It's funny you say that, since you believe only what you want to believe. regardless of whether it has a basis in reality or not.
 
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Goober

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Okay....you need to watch this if you think multiculturalism is a wonderful thing, if you think Muslims are the same as any other subculture, if you think Islam is no threat in the west.......

Ezra Levant Talks To Mubin Shaikh - YouTube

Go especially to about 3:30 on the vid, and listen to the Muslim reaction to this guy.

Then imagine the reaction in any Christian church, or any synagogue to a man that helped in a major way to prevent a serious terror attack....

Just a little different, isn't it???

Does your opinion apply to all Muslims?
 

Corduroy

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I'd suggest you look into John Paul II's 'Theology of the Body' which attempts to reconcile human sexuality with the mystery of Creation and human love. It speaks to the distortions of material gratification, self-centredness, sexual obsession that permeate modern Western mores.

I suppose the late Pope is qualified to ruminate on the mystery of creation and love, but he's a bit out of his depth when it comes to sex, no? If not, then he's got some 'splaining to do.
 

gerryh

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I suppose the late Pope is qualified to ruminate on the mystery of creation and love, but he's a bit out of his depth when it comes to sex, no? If not, then he's got some 'splaining to do.

I see. So I guess we will not be hearing from you on any subject that you don't have direct personal experience with. Should mean we will hear a he'll of a lot less from you.
 

mentalfloss

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One goes off to the cottage for an extended weekend and we already have this kind of garbage infiltrating the forums. It's reassuring to see that people stood up to see through the islamaphobic bull.
 

CDNBear

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One goes off to the cottage for an extended weekend and we already have this kind of garbage infiltrating the forums. It's reassuring to see that people stood up to see through the islamaphobic bull.
Why is every opinion you don't agree with garbage?

Careful, your facade is slipping.





























Again...
 

Colpy

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And? You're scared ****less?

No, I don't scare very easy... :)

That`s a nice cherry pick, compare one reaction to any reaction from other groups.

I'm not even sure what that means.....

Isn't inciting the same thing as terrorism?

Only whackos think Islam is a threat to the west. Irrational and proud ignorant racists spew this futile rhetoric with no basis in fact.
There are threats to the west, threats to our livelihood, threats to our economic well-being, and Islam is not one of them.
As Jay Z might put it, 'We've got 99 problems but Islam ain't one'

Has our economic crisis been caused by Islam?

Still on the anti Islam bandwagon I see. I'm wondering, when the u.s. jumps over to the anti-chinese/anti-communist wagon, will you be jumping with them?

When anyone says anything against Israel, they are Joo Haters and the usual gang of suspects jump all over them. But a lot of the same crowd who attack "Joo Haters" are always puking the same sort of rhetoric toward Muslims but get upset when called Islamophobic. Double standard much?

What makes their terrorisn different than any other terrorism? A label that somebody added to make this a religious war?

If English Canada had a real Culture it would help.
In Quebec Muslims do much better.

One goes off to the cottage for an extended weekend and we already have this kind of garbage infiltrating the forums. It's reassuring to see that people stood up to see through the islamaphobic bull.

So, I posted an interview with a Muslim that behaved in an extraordinarily heroic way to prevent a group from engaging in mass murder in the name of Allah.

That Muslim then states that he could not attend mosque in Toronto, except for the one run by his father........

Now why would that be???

It was because the terrorists enjoyed the support of a significant portion of the Muslims in those mosques.

I expected a discussion on ways to better assimilate Canadian Muslims (multiculturalism obviously ain't it) so that the support of terror becomes a shame to them, so that any Muslim that DOES support terror would be ashamed or unable to show his face in a mosque.........instead of the opposite, which is true now.

Instead the Usual Suspects posted accusations of bigotry (damn right, I hate those that would murder my countrymen and destroy my freedom), stupidity, and paranoia.

The FACT remains......a very significant portion of the Muslim population in Canada supports terror against our gov't.......enough of them that a man who behaved in an exemplary manner against murder is unable to attend mosque in Toronto.

Now, if you don't think that is a problem, I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and look around.
 

AbtFet

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When western civilization crashes it won't be because of Islam :lol: . This is why I generally ignore the clear bigots who like to blame Islam on everything, it isn't even a fraction of our problems.
 

CDNBear

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When western civilization crashes it won't be because of Islam :lol: .
I love your optimism cubby.

This is why I generally ignore the clear bigots who like to blame Islam on everything...
No one blames Islam on everything.

Hell, I don't even blame everything on Islam.

Which is a monumental difference between you and I. Since you blame Israel for everything, and even condone the murder of Jewish civilians.

You don't ignore bigots, you ignore people that poke huge holes in your version of reality.

it isn't even a fraction of our problems.
So 18 Muslims plotting mass murder in Toronto isn't a problem?
 

mentalfloss

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Why is every opinion you don't agree with garbage?

 

lone wolf

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Breaking a gang of bad guys is a good thing.... Then I got the mental image of a DC-3 starting up. Eyespin Two and Bad Muzzie - not any specific Muzzie, just anything that isn't you:

DC 3 Start 2009 - YouTube

Now, you continue with the generalistic propaganda....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0PxfCVFos&feature=related

Not a total waste though.... I knew you'd soon spout some Colpyism to use in a lyric I've been working on....