"Canada Day" or "Dominion Day"

Ocean Breeze

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May all our troops come home to celebrate.

Lots are leaving Afghanistan as we speak. Saw some on the telie last night. Seems they are leaving a favorable impression with the Afghans.

Would like to think that is true and hope they come home as opposed to being sent somewhere else.

Canada must go back to being a peace engendering nation. Maybe when there is enough war fatigue from the horrors that wars create.
 

WLDB

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Which has got bugger all to do with nothing! When we celebrate a birthday, we are celebrating the day we were born, Canada was "born" a Dominion. :smile:


Do you refer to your birthday, or those around you as "infant" day? Seeing as you were born an infant.
 

Cliffy

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I can't remember a politician in Canadian history that screwed the west more to curry favor in Quebec and Ontario than Trudeau. His one finger salute spoke volumes about how he viewed B.C.

What really bothers me is that except for the possible exception of Martin successive Liberal leaders got even worse.
How come nobody mentions that the one finger salute was a response to jeers and heckling? I thought it apropos. Kinda like his "Fuddle Duddle" remark in parliament.
 

WLDB

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Dominion has a ring of subservience to me. I don't know the etymology of the word, but it looks similar to domination. Who's dominating whom? The British Empire over Canada? The federal government over the people?

Republic, on the other hand, has a much better ring to it and an etymology any democrat can can get behind.

They got the word from the Bible. It was actually a Canadian who chose the word.

I'm not sure I'd want an actual Republic.
 

YukonJack

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How come nobody mentions that the one finger salute was a response to jeers and heckling? I thought it apropos. Kinda like his "Fuddle Duddle" remark in parliament.

No, it was NOT!

A mob may scream, shout and jeer, because it does not have to show dignity and honour.

A Prime Minister MUST.

At least he did not grab the throat of a protester, like his darling protegee and Liberal icon, Jean Chretien did.
 

WLDB

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No, it was NOT!

A mob may scream, shout and jeer, because it does not have to show dignity and honour.

A Prime Minister MUST.

Mulroney flat out told a protester to "**** off" and admits it. John A. would show up to work drunk or hungover regularly.

Prime Ministers can easily get away with not acting with dignity and honor.
 

JLM

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No, it was NOT!

A mob may scream, shout and jeer, because it does not have to show dignity and honour.

A Prime Minister MUST.

At least he did not grab the throat of a protester, like his darling protegee and Liberal icon, Jean Chretien did.

I loved that, THAT showed both class and moxie! :smile:
 

CUBert

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LOL! Chretien was another great leader... Not afraid to get his hands dirty and handle some of these hecklers himself, unlike Sarkozy that wimp had 10 bodyguards jump a guy for grabbing his suit...
We've had the best leaders in the western world...:canada:
 

Colpy

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Albertan's wanted the oil wealth to themselves and Trudeau wanted to disperse it amongst all of Canada, tsk tsk shame on Alberta.
As far as straining relationships, he created better relationships with foreign countries and gave us much more credibility internationally and didn't make us look like Amerikkkan puppets... Easiest the greatest leader of the western world.

Read the Canadian Constitution, the supreme law of the land.

Natural resources are owned by the province.

As it is, Alberta pays the way for the rest of us........any surprise they resented being charged extra big bucks to have trudeaupian gun control and bilingualism shoved down their throats????

LOL! Chretien was another great leader... Not afraid to get his hands dirty and handle some of these hecklers himself, unlike Sarkozy that wimp had 10 bodyguards jump a guy for grabbing his suit...
We've had the best leaders in the western world...:canada:

Yes, Chretien was a great leader....if you liked a cross of Bugsy Segal with Joseph Stalin......

Chretien appointed a mobster to cabinet, then whisked him off to Denmark as ambassador when he got himself in trouble.

Chretien used the RCMP as his own personal Gestapo, in a mad pursuit and persecution (named as such by a judge!) of the ex-president of the BDC, who refused to be a party to Chretien's corruption.

A true hero, that Chretien boy. (sarcasm alert)

And at one time, I actually LIKED him.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Sorry, as much as i dislike PET, I am a Canadian, not a Dominionian. :)

What's with the hang up with PET?? He is dead and gone. Sure , some of his changes are still in effect and many of them were good ones that made Canada unique . Don't see an issue with being bi lingual. In todays world , the more languages one knows the better off one is and the more employable .

He gave Canada an identity by his own personna.

Better than the warmonger non descriptive vanilla , US wannabe we have in power now. We who reside here are all CANADIANS...... not sure what the squabble over terminology is except to show oneself as being more than a little petty.

Sorry if that is a tad harsh..........but sheesh. Lets try and be adult about things. There are too many REAL and BIG problems in the world now to fret about vernacular.

Perhaps we need to examine our own expectations of these leaders. They are humans with human failings. Not one is a "hero" as such. Some are just better LEADERS than others. Some are better politicians than others. They come with their own agendas and pet projects . Politics as usual.

Every now and then along comes a leader that is a bit more special..... because of his/ her unique contributions to the leadership and nation.

No leader is liked by the entire population. ( unless said population is one of robots )

but they all give us loads of discussion material. and in discussing them and their policies we learn about each other along the way.

that is a good thing (IMHO)
 

wulfie68

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How come nobody mentions that the one finger salute was a response to jeers and heckling? I thought it apropos. Kinda like his "Fuddle Duddle" remark in parliament.

Because its irrelevant. He was supposed to be a "great mind" and the most intelligent response he could think of was to flip off some of the people he was supposed to lead? Hardly inspirational...

I guess in the end its no biggie to me whether it is Canada Day or Dominion Day. I like the sound of Dominion Day, but then I also don't mind the identification of Canada as part of the British Commonwealth. Its who we were and really still are. I think part of Canada's identity crisis stems from the fact that too many want to discard our history and traditions which leaves a void that we struggle to fill. Canada (among many other nations)owes existence more to the Brits than any other group. Thats not to say everything they did was great and perfect but their governance was for the most part sound, stable and provided an opportunity to develop into a free and democratic nation. I know its not in vogue to admit that: we're all supposed to take shots at the Brits like a rebellious teen mouthing off about their parents to their friends.

He gave Canada an identity by his own personna.

And what identity is that, aside from quasi-socialist policies and a willingness to bash our closest neighbour, trading partner and ally at every chance?
 

WLDB

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Because its irrelevant. He was supposed to be a "great mind" and the most intelligent response he could think of was to flip off some of the people he was supposed to lead? Hardly inspirational...



And what identity is that, aside from quasi-socialist policies and a willingness to bash our closest neighbour, trading partner and ally at every chance?

When Jimmy Carter was President Trudeau got along fine with the US. Nixon and Raegan were no fans of Trudeau either. It went both ways.

As for flipping someone off, as I said before he wasnt the first PM to act unprofessional and he wasnt the last. To me its not a big deal.
 

CUBert

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Who cares if Trudeau flipped someone off, good...Show some emotion... Politicians these days are such robots, Harper is a fine example of a emotionless zombie idiot.
 

JLM

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When Jimmy Carter was President Trudeau got along fine with the US. Nixon and Raegan were no fans of Trudeau either. It went both ways.

As for flipping someone off, as I said before he wasnt the first PM to act unprofessional and he wasnt the last. To me its not a big deal.

Well, if Ronnie didn't like him, that clinches it. :smile:
 

WLDB

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Well, if Ronnie didn't like him, that clinches it. :smile:

Thatcher didn't like Trudeau either.

When referred to as a son of a bitch by Nixon, he said "I've been called worse by better people". And he was likely right. If Raegan didn't like him I'd say thats a compliment.
 

JLM

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Thatcher didn't like Trudeau either.

When referred to as a son of a bitch by Nixon, he said "I've been called worse by better people". And he was likely right. If Raegan didn't like him I'd say thats a compliment.

Maggie was twice the "man" Trudeau ever thought of being. :lol:

Thatcher didn't like Trudeau either.

When referred to as a son of a bitch by Nixon, he said "I've been called worse by better people". And he was likely right. If Raegan didn't like him I'd say thats a compliment.

I'm familiar with Ronald Reagan but who is this Raegan guy? :lol:
 

Corduroy

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are semantics THAT critical??? Sounds like 'much ado about nothing"...

Apparently. The OP thought semantics were critical and hence the thread. If you don't care about the meanings of words (semantics) then you wouldn't have problem with calling it Potato Day.

Happy Potato Day!
 

Kreskin

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Looks like Independence Day might change to Canada Dominion Day.