Wouldn't it be nice if....

[gerryh]

I know plenty of people who got corporal punishment in school. They had it removed for their kids for a reason.

My parents gave the belt. They were also part of having it removed from the schools. What goes on at home and what goes on at school are two different issues and arguments. One is a parent who knows a child closely, the other is a stranger hired to teach.

You got that right Karrie, it was jackie boy, jlm, and talloola's generation that did away with corporal punishment. They introduced the world to the likes of Doctor Spock. They helped bring the government and their child service agencies closer to the family home.


and as for my comment about teachers being strangers, they are, as you have reiterated. Regardless of jackie boys contentions about "meeting the teacher", they are still strangers. I know next to nothing about the teachers that taught my kids aside from what they chose to tell me during interviews. I had no say which ones taught my kids, and I had limited say as to HOW they taught my kids. I sure as hell wouldn't give ANY of them permission to use corporal punishment on my kids.

 

[Kreskin]

YouTube - ‪The Beach Boys - Wouldn't it be nice‬‏

 

[gerryh]

There's times when the little buggers won't desist until they've had a sound thrashing, BUT that should be as a LAST resort after ALL other forms of punishment have been tried. One thing I will grant you, I got a couple of good strappings around grade six, they didn't do me any harm. The one was a little unjust, a big lout was beating the **** out of me during a soccer game, had me pinned on the ground so I up with my boot in the back of his head. We both got it, so that was alright. I was a little miffed at the time because on top of the strapping I had blood from a$$hole to breakfast! :lol:

IF that was nesasary, it would be up to the parent of the child, not some power hungry civil servant.

 

[YukonJack]

You got that right Karrie, it was jackie boy, jlm, and talloola's generation that did away with corporal punishment. They introduced the world to the likes of Doctor Spock. They helped bring the government and their child service agencies closer to the family home.


and as for my comment about teachers being strangers, they are, as you have reiterated. Regardless of jackie boys contentions about "meeting the teacher", they are still strangers. I know next to nothing about the teachers that taught my kids aside from what they chose to tell me during interviews. I had no say which ones taught my kids, and I had limited say as to HOW they taught my kids. I sure as hell wouldn't give ANY of them permission to use corporal punishment on my kids.

gerryh (please note that I don't use a denigrating name or expression when referring or talking to you) the only thing that you have to know about your kids teachers is whether they are unionized or not. If they are, I agree with you, you can not trust them.

None of my teachers were ever in any union. They knew the difference between a job and a calling.

 

[TenPenny]

YouTube - ‪The Beach Boys - Wouldn't it be nice‬‏

Thanks, that's what I was waiting for.

 

[gerryh]

gerryh, splurge and buy yourself your first dictionary, so that, with a little effort, you may learn the difference between beating a child and give that misbehaving child a well-deserved rap on the knuckles. Keep in mind, that when you voluntarily leave your child under the care of someone else, be it a teacher or a babysitter, you gave that person the authority to do whatever is necessary to keep your child in line. Would you rather see your 15 year old child injure a fellow student than his/her teacher stopping him/her from doing so, by physical action, if necessary? Would you shove a ruler up that teacher's rear end for trying to do so?

I don't know about you, but if my child ever disrupted a class by bad behaviour and denied other children the right to learn, I would not consider the action of a teacher for exercizing appropriate CORPORAL punishment, when all else failed.

But then, I am not a bleeding heart, idealistic, living-in-Utopia kind of liberal, but a realist.f

I don't need a dictionary to make the decision that I will not abrogate the responsibility of disciplining my children to some 3rd rate hack.


and you all need to get together as to what label I have on me. I can't be a rightwing religious nutcase AND a bleeding heart idealistic liberal all at the same time.

gerryh (please note that I don't use a denigrating name or expression when referring or talking to you) the only thing that you have to know about your kids teachers is whether they are unionized or not. If they are, I agree with you, you can not trust them.

None of my teachers were ever in any union. They knew the difference between a job and a calling.

I'm sorry jackie boy...... I didn't realize you were using "bleeding heart, idealistic, living-in-Utopia kind of liberal" in a non denigrating way. I suppose you meant it in only the most positive way possible.:roll:


Unlike the 1800's when you went to school, teachers today are all Union. They really don't have a choice in the matter. Union aside, the majority don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. ESPECIALLY in the public school systems.

 

[JLM]

You got that right Karrie, it was jackie boy, jlm, and talloola's generation that did away with corporal punishment. They introduced the world to the likes of Doctor Spock. They helped bring the government and their child service agencies closer to the family home.


and as for my comment about teachers being strangers, they are, as you have reiterated. Regardless of jackie boys contentions about "meeting the teacher", they are still strangers. I know next to nothing about the teachers that taught my kids aside from what they chose to tell me during interviews. I had no say which ones taught my kids, and I had limited say as to HOW they taught my kids. I sure as hell wouldn't give ANY of them permission to use corporal punishment on my kids.

It had absolutely nothing to do with me, but I know exactly when it happened and who did it in B.C. 1973 by Eileen Daley (sp:?) of Dave Barrett's N.D.P. gov't.

 

[gerryh]

It had absolutely nothing to do with me, but I know exactly when it happened and who did it in B.C. 1973 by Eileen Daley (sp:?) of Dave Barrett's N.D.P. gov't.

That would have been YOUR generation, considering I was only 14 when that happened.

 

[JLM]

gerryh (please note that I don't use a denigrating name or expression when referring or talking to you) the only thing that you have to know about your kids teachers is whether they are unionized or not. If they are, I agree with you, you can not trust them.

None of my teachers were ever in any union. They knew the difference between a job and a calling.

On that we agree, teachers being Unionized is a conflict of interest (not that they will admit it). Jeopardizing a child's education for selfish interests is reprehensible. In B.C. the big city school teachers are the worst offenders, I think.

 

[Cliffy]

It had absolutely nothing to do with me, but I know exactly when it happened and who did it in B.C. 1973 by Eileen Daley (sp:?) of Dave Barrett's N.D.P. gov't.

Oh No! Not the communist/socialist hordes! OMG, we are all hooped!

Barret and his commie friends couldn't do anything without being crucified by the media. I'm surprised they did anything. They couldn't pass wind without being character assassinated by the media.

 

[JLM]

That would have been YOUR generation, considering I was only 14 when that happened.

Eileen Dailly was old enough to be my mother.

http://www.viu.ca/homeroom/content/topics/people/dailly.htm

 

[gerryh]

Eileen Dailly was old enough to be my mother.

The Homeroom - Eileen Elizabeth Dailly

and who put her in power?

I was too young to vote

 

[Kreskin]

Thanks, that's what I was waiting for.

First thing that came to mind when I saw the title. Classic Brian Wilson.

 

[JLM]

and who put her in power?

I was too young to vote

Me and a million others, we wanted change after 20 years of Social Discredit.

 

[Cliffy]

Me and a million others, we wanted change after 20 years of Social Discredit.

And we have just come through another ten years of Social Discredit under Campbell's so called Liberal party.

 

[damngrumpy]

I agree that the military needs to do the job and needs the tools to do it. Then again what
job are we asking them to do? For decades were known the world over for conducting
peace missions on the international scene. Now we are tied to the military actions of the
western powers. I understand the world has changed in many ways and we have to now
respond to the issues of the day. I agree we should be in Afghanistan, but I am glad we
did not become entangled in the mess is Iraq, as that was not a just action in my view.
Libya is another question. At present I agree to being there, the current administration is
not only corrupt it is a mental case for a State. The only problem is who will take over in
end? If we are installing the Islamic Brotherhood they are even crazier than those already
there.
Remember when Layton said we should be talking to the Taliban and everyone laughed?
Well it turns out such talks have been going on for a long time apparently and they will go
on for some time to come. People who were disrespectful in their comments must have
some reaction to the present news that talks are going on.
After all of the above, I believe we have to equip the military and take care of our obligations
for Medicare and Education. We will not enjoy freedom for any length of time if we have no
way to defend it. No we are not always called upon to fight, but when we are we need to be
prepared.

 

[JLM]

And we have just come through another ten years of Social Discredit under Campbell's so called Liberal party.

Not really..............if we knew in 1972 what we know now, the N.D.P. may not have got in. WAC was a very astute business man and no one faulted him for his ability to handle finance..........he was both premier and the finance minister, but the old curmudgeon was a bit (a lot) of a dictator. But he was starting to dodder. Dave Barrett brought in a lot of good legislation some of which remains to this day, but he made some mistakes too, not only was he giving all the hippies welfare but they were getting a dog allowance too. There was about 500 hippies on Lasqueti Island, all collecting dog allowance for about 6 dogs.

I agree that the military needs to do the job and needs the tools to do it. Then again what
job are we asking them to do? For decades were known the world over for conducting
peace missions on the international scene. Now we are tied to the military actions of the
western powers. I understand the world has changed in many ways and we have to now
respond to the issues of the day. I agree we should be in Afghanistan, but I am glad we
did not become entangled in the mess is Iraq, as that was not a just action in my view.
Libya is another question. At present I agree to being there, the current administration is
not only corrupt it is a mental case for a State. The only problem is who will take over in
end? If we are installing the Islamic Brotherhood they are even crazier than those already
there.
Remember when Layton said we should be talking to the Taliban and everyone laughed?
Well it turns out such talks have been going on for a long time apparently and they will go
on for some time to come. People who were disrespectful in their comments must have
some reaction to the present news that talks are going on.
After all of the above, I believe we have to equip the military and take care of our obligations
for Medicare and Education. We will not enjoy freedom for any length of time if we have no
way to defend it. No we are not always called upon to fight, but when we are we need to be
prepared.

I think we need a military as much for domestic concerns as fighting wars, sure could have used a few thousand troops last Wednesday night (and those A$$holes would have been laughing on the other side of their faces)

 

[taxslave]

He's a bigger man than you period....... thank God.

Did you look?

 

[gerryh]

Did you look?

That would be telling.

 

[taxslave]

I don't need a dictionary to make the decision that I will not abrogate the responsibility of disciplining my children to some 3rd rate hack.


and you all need to get together as to what label I have on me. I can't be a rightwing religious nutcase AND a bleeding heart idealistic liberal all at the same time.





I'm sorry jackie boy...... I didn't realize you were using "bleeding heart, idealistic, living-in-Utopia kind of liberal" in a non denigrating way. I suppose you meant it in only the most positive way possible.:roll:


Unlike the 1800's when you went to school, teachers today are all Union. They really don't have a choice in the matter. Union aside, the majority don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. ESPECIALLY in the public school systems.

Not in private schools which I think YJ was referring to. And private schools do tend to get better, more dedicated teachers or at least they have the ability to remove the poor ones.

Me and a million others, we wanted change after 20 years of Social Discredit.

Well you got change alright. Too bad it was even worse than before our first bout of dipper missmanagement.