How about them Canucks!
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No one cares about what you care about-does this make sense?
Your oft stated antipathy toward hockey isn't serving you too well-you're still here bitching/carping/moaning about the state of the game-don't you have something better to do like farm mosquitoes?
The secret to you finding happiness is to shut the TV off and Get a Life.
The reason he got suspended for 4 games(the remainder of the Finals) is that Horton is gone for the duration as well. He is said to have a severe concussion, so who knows if he will even be able to play at the start of next year's pre-season? If Horton had not been as severely injured, I suspect that it would have been a 2 game suspension instead.
This was not his first game misconduct in this post-season, so that was probably a factor as well. Both teams lose a player due to this. Vancouver loses Rome and Boston loses Horton.
that does makes some sense, but doesn't enter into any ruling, as there is no ruling that
suspends a player for the duration because the player injured is also out of the series.
if that is the case, someone just made it up out of the blue.
rome could have been given a one game suspension and horton could be out till next season,
that sort of thing happens quite often.
they seem to be making up new rules on the fly, but that is confusing everyone, players, coaches
media and fans. no one knows what will happen from one incident to the next.
hopefully next season they will have something in writing that everyone will be able to read and
talk about that will apply to all incidents.
Hmm... I don't get hockey. Someone explain this "late hit" for me please. If Rome had hit Horton "on time" would he not have been knocked out and taken away on a stretcher?
there is a very short time after a player passes the puck away, that another player is allowed to
hit him, if it exceeds that short time, it is a late hit, that was the case when rome hit horton,
after that time period had ended. about 1/2 second late.
no, if he had of hit him within the time period, same injury would have occured, but don't have a
clue what they would have done, as the person responsible for suspensions, said the actual hit was
LEGAL, but a tad late, which made the penalty one of interference, so that is the grey area, what would they have done if same hit came within alllowed time period.
the interference penalty has nothing to do with the 'type' of hit that was given,
only that the hit was late.
So it's legal to hit someone in such a way as to knocked them out and be taken away on a stretcher. That's a little screwy.
In a game as fast as hockey, played by such big strong men, making moves at such a speed that everything
happens in fractions of seconds, 'sh*t'(as JLM said, happens). It is a spontaneous instant decision
game, on skates, and 99% of the time things go pretty well, but then, just as happened with rome
and horton, people come together, and it doesn't go so well.
In this particular hit, there was 'no' intent to injure or hurt at all, just a hit that went bad, and
that happens and is not surprising.
The men love the game, they know the risks, they want the risks, they love the speed and roughness
and the difficulty they have, to get things done.
That all makes the game what it is.
There will always be some injuries in the game. Sometimes those injuries are caused by 'intent' to
injure, which will be dealt with by the league upon review of the tapes.
Rome did not intend to injure horton, but when he made the hit, his shoulder made contact at some
point with part of horton's head, and also when the player falls on the ice like he did, the head
can be injured by the fall.
It is just the nature of the game.
If people expect all injuries to stop, forget it, and also if they expect collisions/hits/contact
always to be free of risk of injury, forget it, with a game like hockey, injuries will happen.
Now that the league, (for whatever reason) has decided to give Rome 4 games suspension, leaves me
feeling sour. That is the most games ever given in the NHL finals.
There were two other hits recently, one on Rome which ran him into the boards head first, and the
other on daniel Sedin which did the same, and resulted in NO SUSPENSIONS, and those
hits were intentional runs 'into' the boards, intent to injure, but for whatever reason,
they have heavily suspended rome.
Now, in my opinion there are two victims, horton and rome, so if boston feel they can rally around
their player and be inspired, very good, and canucks can do the same, and can be inspired by their
player, who has been dealt a dirty blow by the league. Rome is devastated because of the injury to
horton, as he doesn't want to hurt anyone, never has, is a clean player, with no previous infractions
that deserved a suspension, and now he is devastated because he has been given such a severe suspension.
The severity of the injury has no bearing on how long the player suspended stays out, it is the
nature of the hit, and the intent, not the result.
In the two previous serious hits I mentioned above, Rome was stunned at the time, and daniel sedin
just got up and skated away, but that does not take away the severity of the hit,
or the intent to injure or not.
It isn't the injury which should be the deciding factor, but the severity of the hit.
Hits can be very similar, but have very different outcomes.
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That can happen in any physical sport, eg. a hitter sliding into the first baseman and taking him out.
Cold blooded! You don't see me bashing your Canadians... quit bashing our Canadians!
The hit was late though and that was an uneven swap. I KNOW if Boston took out one of Vancouver's key players there would be a different tune.
All's fair in love and war. :lol:
Don't you mean you hope your Canadians beat Hongcouver's Swedes?
Edit - I'll say this about the hit on Horton too. In the NHL of even last year, it might have been OK. It was late, no question... late enough for an interference call is debatable, but it was a blindside hit and the main force went high, onto Horton's head. Now I'll say that Horton should have had his head up to protect himself, but the way the rules are now, and the way the suspensions have been handed out, there is no way Rome was avoiding several games for this. Yes, NHL supplemental discipline under Colin Campbell is a joke, but Rome is guilty of a late, blind-side hit, contacting (if not actually targeting) the head. Thats 3 strikes in one. And yes if that was a Sedin or Kessler, there would riots in the streets that it was only 4 games in Vancouver.
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It was SO late!
YouTube - Rome Hit on Horton - Canucks at Bruins - R4G3 2011 Playoffs - 06.06.11 - HD
I'll even say that the damage came from the head hitting the ice. I didn't think there was enough body to head contact. Does that make sense?
He didn't have the puck though. Sort of like a late hit on the QB.
I thought the statement by Rome after meeting with the Murphy was very heart-felt and honest - good on him. What is done is done so we like the Canucks have to move on. Glad to hear that Ballard of the fabulous hip-check and Tanev will be in the game tonight - those two played together last time they got the call.
This Time. This City. This Team. This Season.
Our Father, who art in Rogers Arena, Hockey be thy name.
Thy will be done, Lord Stanley's Cup will be won, on home ice as
well away. Give us this day our hockey sticks and forgive us our
penalties, as we forgive those who crosscheck against us. Lead
us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory, in the name
of the fans, the Vancouver Canucks and the Holy Puck.
Amen!
Our Father, who art in Rogers Arena, Hockey be thy name.
Thy will be done, Lord Stanley's Cup will be won, on home ice as
well away. Give us this day our hockey sticks and forgive us our
penalties, as we forgive those who crosscheck against us. Lead
us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory, in the name
of the fans, the Vancouver Canucks and the Holy Puck.
Amen!
GO, CANUCKS, GO! :canada:
Sheesh, YJ.................take a deep breath. Aaron Rome is NOT a vicious player. Aaron did not have the INTENT to cause a concussion as he so eloquently stated in his press release. He's been there and knows the harm a concussion causes. Stating that he should be in jail is way over the top.
GO, CANUCKS, GO!
I doubt Aaron will appeal because Bettman is the man who gets to decide whether to uphold the suspension or not - I doubt that he will go against Murphy and so do most of the hockey commentators. Aaron will be allowed to join the team when they win the Cup and that is good news.
NO, NO, NO, JLM................ let's just get on with the game. I don't want to see any unnecessary hits or slaps or punches from our guys. If Boston, after Julien stated otherwise, decides to retalitate.........so be it - they will be the ones in the penalty box while our guys get to polish their PP skills. Leave the bad stuff for Beantown. IMHO.
GO, CANUCKS, GO!
rome's hit on horton did not come under the new (east/west blind sided hit), that was confirmed by
the league, even though horton was still watching his pass when he was hit, it was not considered
blind sided.
that new rule is very definite that it is only east/west,blindside, but north/south hits, (as this one was)
is different.
In other words, it was in the flow of the play, and rome did not cross the ice to hit him. ( eg. cooke's hit on savard.)
The league stated the hit was legal, it was the timing of the hit that was illegal.
Off topic for a bit, talloola...........I was wondering how your grandson did in the tournie???