Osama bin Laden is dead.

[karrie]

Man, are you naive or what??
Canada, defend itself???? Ha!!!
Oh yeah, we are just such nice Teddy bears eh!!!! People would be nice to you too if you had a Big Guy following you around all the time.

I think your a bit of a dumbo ....eh??

That is enough highjacking of this thread. Open a new one to discuss your assertion that our freedoms are granted by you.

 

[TenPenny]

While you have a perfect right to that OPINION, the relatives of the 2800 dead, may have a different opinion which I'd be more inclined to respect. Personally I don't put him in the same class of warrior as someone like Napolean or Alexander the Great.

Indeed, and I heard a 9/11 widow on the news saying that her son asked why OBL couldn't have a trial, and be brought to justice instead of shot.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Indeed, and I heard a 9/11 widow on the news saying that her son asked why OBL couldn't have a trial, and be brought to justice instead of shot.

I heard one say she wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone but was ok with making an exception this time. Way to give up your morals and be a hypocrite.

 

[lone wolf]

I'd have done the same thing with Saddam..... Fire in the hole!

...as good as they gave....

 

[karrie]

I heard one say she wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone but was ok with making an exception this time. Way to give up your morals and be a hypocrite.

Way to judge someone who's suffered a loss I doubt you could ever truly grasp.

It sounds to me like she was being as honest as any victim of a criminal act can be, stating essentially 'the way I would like people to behave is (a) but my hurt is so deep that as a victim I can't help but feel (b).' If you know many people who have been impacted by murder, you see that kind of reaction often. It's why we try to separate emotion from the judicial system, because it doesn't always make the best decisions. But you can't ask a victim of crime to NOT have emotions about it. That is just callous, unfeeling, and frankly, inhuman.

 

[PoliticalNick]

I'd have done the same thing with Saddam..... Fire in the hole!

...as good as they gave....

Just where does Saddam come into this. He was not involved in any terrorist attacks, he did not have any WMD's, all he did was thumb his nose at the west and the UN and the US has a long history of thumbing its nose at the UN also, especially over Israel.

 

[lone wolf]

Big deal.... I'm Canadian

 

[JLM]

I heard one say she wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone but was ok with making an exception this time. Way to give up your morals and be a hypocrite.

"Hypocrite" has it's limits - that's when "there's an exception to every rule" takes over! :smile:

 

[Goober]

I heard one say she wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone but was ok with making an exception this time. Way to give up your morals and be a hypocrite.

And you are one that has traveled thru life and not once, not once ever compromised your principles or morals.

PS - My cousin was supposed to be on one of those planes as crew. She switched because another girl asked her.

So take a pulpit, take it downtown and stand up and speak your peace.

Now after being so hard on you. Think about the horrors this man has caused, ripple and effect and ripples and more effects comes to mind.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Way to judge someone who's suffered a loss I doubt you could ever truly grasp.

I have lost people through various ways and I have not given up my moral standings for any of it. If you want to declare your morals are one thing and in the same sentence say you will change them for 1 specific reason you are a hypocrite and will be judged accordingly. Deal with it.

 

[JLM]

Just where does Saddam come into this. He was not involved in any terrorist attacks, he did not have any WMD's, all he did was thumb his nose at the west and the UN and the US has a long history of thumbing its nose at the UN also, especially over Israel.

Yeah, and the Easter bunny brought all the Easter eggs! :lol:

 

[karrie]

I edited my post to clarify my opinion on you denouncing the victim of a crime for being honest about her feelings. And having seen the results of murder and other criminal acts, I can't help but highly doubt that you know any victim of such things, at least know them on any kind of emotional level.

 

[Goober]

Just where does Saddam come into this. He was not involved in any terrorist attacks, he did not have any WMD's, all he did was thumb his nose at the west and the UN and the US has a long history of thumbing its nose at the UN also, especially over Israel.

Correct, Saddam had no WMD's. But he created the distinct impression he did.

lastly - Iraq is a big freaking country -They are still finding mass graves and consider how many people knew where those graves were, so who knows what else will be found.

 

[lone wolf]

I have lost people through various ways and I have not given up my moral standings for any of it. If you want to declare your morals are one thing and in the same sentence say you will change them for 1 specific reason you are a hypocrite and will be judged accordingly. Deal with it.

Then you are fortunate to have lived such a charmed life.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Correct, Saddam had no WMD's. But he created the distinct impression he did.

lastly - Iraq is a big freaking country -They are still finding mass graves and consider how many people knew where those graves were, so who knows what else will be found.

Correction - he had no WMD's but the US created the distinct impression he did.

 

[JLM]

Correct, Saddam had no WMD's. But he created the distinct impression he did.

lastly - Iraq is a big freaking country -They are still finding mass graves and consider how many people knew where those graves were, so who knows what else will be found.

It's impossible to state Saddam never had W.M.D.s with certainty. But that is a moot point, we know he was capable of it and would have no qualms about using them (he did attack Kuwait and gas the Kurds) Anyway smart people assume the worst case scenario and hope for the best, especially during war.

Correction - he had no WMD's but the US created the distinct impression he did.

No, he created the distinct impression he could have. Get things straight, Nick. :smile:

 

[lone wolf]

We know he had gas....

 

[earth_as_one]

Sounds like a waste of money if you spend $65Billion on arms and still don't have the ability to defend yourself.

 

[Goober]

Correction - he had no WMD's but the US created the distinct impression he did.

Wrong - Go back to after 91 - Read the UN reports on cooperation by the regime. See how he did not follow the UN resolutions, read how he caused people to believe

This was not contrived by the US. Educate yourself on past history, it is readily available, then and only then come back with a reply and some proof to back your statement.

Till then i shall wait patiently.

 

[PoliticalNick]

It's impossible to state Saddam never had W.M.D.s with certainty. But that is a moot point, we know he was capable of it and would have no qualms about using them (he did attack Kuwait and gas the Kurds) Anyway smart people assume the worst case scenario and hope for the best, especially during war.

First off the americans have ammased the largest cache of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons on the planet so maybe we should be at the UN trying to get them disarmed. Simple thing is if they are not willing to destroy all their WMD's then they have no right telling any other sovereign nation what weaponry it can or cannot have.

No, he created the distinct impression he could have. Get things straight, Nick. :smile:

Please do post some links or something where Saddam does anything but deny the existence of any WMD's in Iraq. The gas he used on the Kurds was remenant from what the US supplied him during the Iran/Iraq war to use against Iran and now everyone wants to complain about it, how convenient..