Harper predicts pain at gas pumps if Layton is in power
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Harper Predicts pain at the Gas pumps???
What have people been experiencing in the last 5 years at the gas pumps?
Orgasms??
Harper seems to predict a lot of things..... too bad none of those predictions ever come true.
I hope he doesn't regularly use Pro-Line.
What have people been experiencing in the last 5 years at the gas pumps?
Orgasms??
Harper seems to predict a lot of things..... too bad none of those predictions ever come true.
I hope he doesn't regularly use Pro-Line.
Exactly, if anyone doubts that, just try having a conversation with a young person today about politics. Wow! I realize I was probably a know-it-all at that age as well, but seriously, wow.
That's because he was too busy trying to defend all of his corruption and screw ups..... he simply didn't have time.
No, it made him look just as corrupt and a crook as he always has..... the public is angry with him, the public is fed up..... and all of the other leaders in the debate were doing what the people wanted them to do..... stick it to Harper and expose him for what he truly is.
A robotic, emotionless suck-hole who's programmed to only work for big corporations.
That's how they designed him in the lab.... anything else ends up as a "Syntax Error 404" on the backs of his eyelids.
Screw ups, maybe,,,,corruption, I don't think so !!
There's no proof of this.
You haven't been keeping up to date have you? Either that or you're delusional and refuse to see the facts against him and his party.
And they're not just screw ups.... they're deliberate screw ups backed by corruption.
The only person that scored real points against Harper was Duceppe, but his english skills are so bad, most people didnlt hear them
There is a lot of fear mongering about government spending and the "Left.', with references to the bogeymen of national debt and the sustainibility of social spending. Those with a modicum of math can verify my figures.
In 1951, in today's dollars, the per capita federal debt in Canada was a little over $10 800. Today, the per capita debt is less than $16 500. That's a modest annual increase of eight-tenths of one percent. Since 1951, we have, thanks to government spending and forward thinking policies of the "Left', medicare and hospitilization, rural electrification, water and sewage in small prarie towns, paved roads, more universal access to higher education. Need I go on? Good Gawd!
In 1951, in today's dollars, the per capita federal debt in Canada was a little over $10 800. Today, the per capita debt is less than $16 500. That's a modest annual increase of eight-tenths of one percent. Since 1951, we have, thanks to government spending and forward thinking policies of the "Left', medicare and hospitilization, rural electrification, water and sewage in small prarie towns, paved roads, more universal access to higher education. Need I go on? Good Gawd!
yes, why dont you talk of healthcare spending in Alberta that is greater than all provincial taxes collected in Alberta? and the other provinces are just as bad, but it took a Ralph Klien to explain to us what we are facing.
Let me put it this way Unf. All the "Harper scares me rhetoric." we've heard over the years. Well if it were down to Jack and Iggy, I'd vote Iggy, because Jack will sink us.
Hell I'd vote for Dionne or even Chretien rather than let this extremely dangerous fellow get a hold on the Nations finances.
Well a gas hike really BUGS me. It is hilarious how people living in the city can so blithely state such nonsense without a thought for all of us living in rural areas. You want to overcome dependence on oil - fine - get out of your car and take a bus or subway or walk - at least you have the luxury of doing so - we don't.
So let the fear mongering begin, we can't find anything that will stick so lets talk
about the price of gas. No I don't like the idea of cap and trade but at some
point it will happen Jack Layton or not. In BC we already have a carbon tax on
fuel brought in by those who actively promote the Conservative Liberal coalition,
known as the BC Liberal Party, or the old Social Credit in hiding.
The fact is we are living nearly 50 billion a year above our means with the current
Conservative Government in power and we will be living with the outpouring of
money until at least 2014 according to Harper the current Prime Minister.
What if we change focus, and spend the current money in different areas? We
don't need jets, we need medicare, post secondary education and other social
benefits for seniors etc. At the same time we need to have the companies and
corporations paying their share of the tax burden, and we need some legislative
control over some of these banks, and fuel companies.
I for one don't think everything will work but its damn well time we began to explore
some alternatives. Besides we have young people who don't share the same values
corporately that we do, they want change, in nearly every avenue we are about to go
down. Like it or not this election is coming down to a few things.
1 people want change and they want it now, and the old way of doing things is no
longer acceptable.
2 Trust, the Tories and the Liberals are in trouble here because these two have been
the only two choices for over a hundred years, and they didn't do what the current
electorate wants.
3 Like ability, people don't trust Harper warranted or not, and they just plain don't like
Iggy, and they won't warm up to him anytime soon. They like Jack Layton and its
hard to stop that kind of surge.
I have been talking to a number of my old media buddies and they in tern have been talking
to people in all corners of the political world. Most of them regardless of party will tell you
no one is in charge of this election anymore, Not Harper, Not Iggy and not even Jack he is
riding the wave. That wave is going to increase in my opinion, as hockey the wedding and
the activities of the weekend will ensure there are too few people to watch the commercials
attacking a man they like. Some media people are quietly musing over the fact that as the
crush comes, Layton and Harper are in for a close ride.
The latest polls especially the National Post one for the 28Th, shows the New Democrats are
moving up in Ontario, and BC, they are riding the Quebec wave and have taken a very slim
lead in the Atlantic provinces. The Prairie, is still Conservative territory but that too will tighten
up slightly in the next few days. CTV shows the Nanos Poll graph and it interesting, the
Conservatives are dipping very slightly and the NDP surge line is going sharply upwards.
Do I think Harper will lose? Yes and No, he will have less seats than in the past, Harper will
have a more aggressive opposition with some real power and like ability. In addition I think the
Conservative broad base will begin looking for a new leader, as the ceiling for Harper is now
at 44% and he can't sustain that lead long enough to gain a majority. Iggy is done and the
greens will not have enough for bus fare home.
There is a slim and I mean a slim change that Layton could pull it off but not likely. and there
would be no coalition with the Liberals as the the two parties will be in a position where they
can't stand the sight of each other. I also believe if the Liberals don't do something about
their party and leadership they will actually implode leaving the left of the party going to the NDP
and the right wing going to the Conservatives.
about the price of gas. No I don't like the idea of cap and trade but at some
point it will happen Jack Layton or not. In BC we already have a carbon tax on
fuel brought in by those who actively promote the Conservative Liberal coalition,
known as the BC Liberal Party, or the old Social Credit in hiding.
The fact is we are living nearly 50 billion a year above our means with the current
Conservative Government in power and we will be living with the outpouring of
money until at least 2014 according to Harper the current Prime Minister.
What if we change focus, and spend the current money in different areas? We
don't need jets, we need medicare, post secondary education and other social
benefits for seniors etc. At the same time we need to have the companies and
corporations paying their share of the tax burden, and we need some legislative
control over some of these banks, and fuel companies.
I for one don't think everything will work but its damn well time we began to explore
some alternatives. Besides we have young people who don't share the same values
corporately that we do, they want change, in nearly every avenue we are about to go
down. Like it or not this election is coming down to a few things.
1 people want change and they want it now, and the old way of doing things is no
longer acceptable.
2 Trust, the Tories and the Liberals are in trouble here because these two have been
the only two choices for over a hundred years, and they didn't do what the current
electorate wants.
3 Like ability, people don't trust Harper warranted or not, and they just plain don't like
Iggy, and they won't warm up to him anytime soon. They like Jack Layton and its
hard to stop that kind of surge.
I have been talking to a number of my old media buddies and they in tern have been talking
to people in all corners of the political world. Most of them regardless of party will tell you
no one is in charge of this election anymore, Not Harper, Not Iggy and not even Jack he is
riding the wave. That wave is going to increase in my opinion, as hockey the wedding and
the activities of the weekend will ensure there are too few people to watch the commercials
attacking a man they like. Some media people are quietly musing over the fact that as the
crush comes, Layton and Harper are in for a close ride.
The latest polls especially the National Post one for the 28Th, shows the New Democrats are
moving up in Ontario, and BC, they are riding the Quebec wave and have taken a very slim
lead in the Atlantic provinces. The Prairie, is still Conservative territory but that too will tighten
up slightly in the next few days. CTV shows the Nanos Poll graph and it interesting, the
Conservatives are dipping very slightly and the NDP surge line is going sharply upwards.
Do I think Harper will lose? Yes and No, he will have less seats than in the past, Harper will
have a more aggressive opposition with some real power and like ability. In addition I think the
Conservative broad base will begin looking for a new leader, as the ceiling for Harper is now
at 44% and he can't sustain that lead long enough to gain a majority. Iggy is done and the
greens will not have enough for bus fare home.
There is a slim and I mean a slim change that Layton could pull it off but not likely. and there
would be no coalition with the Liberals as the the two parties will be in a position where they
can't stand the sight of each other. I also believe if the Liberals don't do something about
their party and leadership they will actually implode leaving the left of the party going to the NDP
and the right wing going to the Conservatives.
Grumpy I agree with almost everything you posted here except the Jets for Medicare bit. In regard to medicare we need to make an honest assessment of how its delivered and should not treat it as if it is some Holy Grail that should be touched.
Oh, and we do need jets. Ours are older than my son who by the way has served more than half of his 20 year career in the forces.
Retired, I agree that we have to assess medicare, what are we going to do about rising
costs and more importantly how are we going to pay for the system down the road.
I was not saying outright that we had to abandoned the jets we have to do something
to upgrade, and if we outright cancel the jets we would have to pay a fee for cancellation.
It is not so much how much money the government has it is what is the priority for
spending and how do we deliver the service. I have said for years we have to begin the
ordeal of deciding what we invest in and how do we pay for it.
Actually the center left governments, Saskatchewan for example, has a better spending
and balanced budget record than most of the other parties in Canada.
We have to get beyond there are only two choices as the first two choices have not in
fact served the interests of Canadians well or we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now
in the spring of our national collective discontent.
I am not without my reservations about Jack, its just that I have no Illusions about the other
two. Harper is a social conservative not a fiscal conservative and in that there is a difference.
The Liberals have no real direction and they are bankrupt as a political entity and will be for
some time. Neither of them have provided the future Canadians expect and people are
fed up completely or close to it. Voters are demanding the Conservatives and New Democrats
work together for the national interests of the country by delivering no one a majority government
when this is over, but the don't want an election for a long time.
The problem for both will be the need to compromise and they will be forced to do so. In turn
this will blunt the social conservative agenda, likely costing Harper his job and at the same time
Canadians will have a longer period to assess the direction and policy of the NDP.
One other thing of note, the more the attack Layton with nasty ads the more he rises in the polls
and the reason is because people are insulted when you attack the party they are already
determined to vote for as a vehicle of change. Harper is hammering an inflexible position,
Iggy looks like he is pleading for mercy, the Bloc looks like a deer in the headlights like what the
hell is happening, and Jack, all he needs to do is smile, wave his cane and talk about making
life better for students, women, working people and small business, as the tide of the big orange
wave keeps rolling ashore. The only thing Harper has going for him is the wave didn't start ten
days earlier other wise we would be looking at an NDP victory.
costs and more importantly how are we going to pay for the system down the road.
I was not saying outright that we had to abandoned the jets we have to do something
to upgrade, and if we outright cancel the jets we would have to pay a fee for cancellation.
It is not so much how much money the government has it is what is the priority for
spending and how do we deliver the service. I have said for years we have to begin the
ordeal of deciding what we invest in and how do we pay for it.
Actually the center left governments, Saskatchewan for example, has a better spending
and balanced budget record than most of the other parties in Canada.
We have to get beyond there are only two choices as the first two choices have not in
fact served the interests of Canadians well or we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now
in the spring of our national collective discontent.
I am not without my reservations about Jack, its just that I have no Illusions about the other
two. Harper is a social conservative not a fiscal conservative and in that there is a difference.
The Liberals have no real direction and they are bankrupt as a political entity and will be for
some time. Neither of them have provided the future Canadians expect and people are
fed up completely or close to it. Voters are demanding the Conservatives and New Democrats
work together for the national interests of the country by delivering no one a majority government
when this is over, but the don't want an election for a long time.
The problem for both will be the need to compromise and they will be forced to do so. In turn
this will blunt the social conservative agenda, likely costing Harper his job and at the same time
Canadians will have a longer period to assess the direction and policy of the NDP.
One other thing of note, the more the attack Layton with nasty ads the more he rises in the polls
and the reason is because people are insulted when you attack the party they are already
determined to vote for as a vehicle of change. Harper is hammering an inflexible position,
Iggy looks like he is pleading for mercy, the Bloc looks like a deer in the headlights like what the
hell is happening, and Jack, all he needs to do is smile, wave his cane and talk about making
life better for students, women, working people and small business, as the tide of the big orange
wave keeps rolling ashore. The only thing Harper has going for him is the wave didn't start ten
days earlier other wise we would be looking at an NDP victory.