Are you sure you support Harper's agenda?

[petros]

So you are not bothered about all the associated costs of drugs. Thefts, rehabillitation costs, incarceration costs, high insurance costs...............costs that eventually trickle back on us the taxpayer?

All courtesy of prohibition.

 

[DurkaDurka]

So you are not bothered about all the associated costs of drugs. Thefts, rehabillitation costs, incarceration costs, high insurance costs...............costs that eventually trickle back on us the taxpayer?

I really haven't noticed a ding on my bottom line from drug related matters, considering all the other taxes we get nailed for, it 's a drop in the bucket.

Also, why are we incarcerating drug users anyways? Quit that practice and you save a bunch right there.

 

[taxslave]

So you are not bothered about all the associated costs of drugs. Thefts, rehabillitation costs, incarceration costs, high insurance costs...............costs that eventually trickle back on us the taxpayer?

The problem stems from the way we treat addictions as a criminal matter rather than a medical one. You can't throw an addict in jail and expect to cure him/her. Addiction is a disease, doesn't matter if it is heroin, tobacco or alcohol. Take the crime out of drugs and you take the money out of them and the criminal element goes away. Taxes on drugs could pay for treatment centers and education.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I don't think he's been more fiscally responsible, myself. If he was, I might consider voting for him.

Firstly, if the G20 taught us anything it's that we don't need more police. We could suffer a higher crime rate per capita and the loss of civil freedom in favour of extra security just isn't worth it.

I mean, just look at how crazy it can get:

I was almost arrested on the Sunday of G20, was snapping photos of the protests at Queen and Spadina when the cops started snatching up photographers, journalists and people living in the neighborhood. It was almost like they were trying to save face from their lack of doing anything the day before when vandals looted business and set cars on fire.

 

[YukonJack]

"....Queen and Spadina...."

Once upon a time there was a church on that corner. That is where i was married, 42 years ago.

 

[petros]

I like criminals who are found guilty but keep plugging away like nothing happened, so of course I support Harper's agenda.

 

[DurkaDurka]

"....Queen and Spadina...."

Once upon a time there was a church on that corner. That is where i was married, 42 years ago.

I don't think there are any churches there anymore, it's mostly bars, coffee shops and fast food joints now.

Did you used to live in Toronto, Jack?

 

[YukonJack]

I don't think there are any churches there anymore, it's mostly bars, coffee shops and fast food joints now.

Did you used to live in Toronto, Jack?

I lived in Toronto, when I left mining and found a job in tire manufacturing. First I had an apartment at Royal York and Lakeshore, then I upgraded to another at Lawrence and Martin Grove. Then I met the love of my life, got married on the above-mentioned corner, where the St. Elizabeth of Hungary Church had stood. Our first apartment was at Lawrence and Weston Rd. One year after we bought a house in Bolton.

In later years, when our kids were four and five years old, I tool a trip to Toronto with them to show them where Mommy and Daddy got married. When I arrived there I was shocked to the the Bank of Hong Kong. I felt like someone just ripped off a piece of my heart.

Sorry for getting off topic.

 

[DurkaDurka]

In later years, when our kids were four and five years old, I tool a trip to Toronto with them to show them where Mommy and Daddy got married. When I arrived there I was shocked to the the Bank of Hong Kong. I felt like someone just ripped off a piece of my heart.

Sorry for getting off topic.

Yeah, I imagine that would have been a bit of a shock, a shame it is gone.

 

[Avro]

Not particularly, but I think Harper is probably the most fiscally responsible, seems to be holding the line on taxes and he's at least making a token attempt to get tough on crime.

The money he spent for the G8-G20 is being fiscally responsible?

Not knowing what shiny new jets are going to cost is being fiscally responsible?

I really haven't noticed a ding on my bottom line from drug related matters, considering all the other taxes we get nailed for, it 's a drop in the bucket.

Also, why are we incarcerating drug users anyways? Quit that practice and you save a bunch right there.

Not to mention the cost policing of it and the ability to tax legal drugs to create revenue.

 

[mentalfloss]

Not to mention the cost policing of it and the ability to tax legal drugs to create revenue.

Hmm.. that sounds pretty fiscally responsible.

 

[Avro]

Hmm.. that sounds pretty fiscally responsible.

.....and less intrusive into someones own choices, which is what I thought cons wanted....less government.

 

[petros]

The largest source for illegal drug use is a nice clean shop on the corner that is subsidized heavily by tax money.

 

[mentalfloss]

.....and less intrusive into someones own choices, which is what I thought cons wanted....less government.

Same.

I really don't get the conservative paradox.

 

[petros]

I hate to be the barer of bad news but Harper, even if elected is a goner.

 

[Unforgiven]

I lived in Toronto, when I left mining and found a job in tire manufacturing. First I had an apartment at Royal York and Lakeshore, then I upgraded to another at Lawrence and Martin Grove. Then I met the love of my life, got married on the above-mentioned corner, where the St. Elizabeth of Hungary Church had stood. Our first apartment was at Lawrence and Weston Rd. One year after we bought a house in Bolton.

In later years, when our kids were four and five years old, I tool a trip to Toronto with them to show them where Mommy and Daddy got married. When I arrived there I was shocked to the the Bank of Hong Kong. I felt like someone just ripped off a piece of my heart.

Sorry for getting off topic.

That Church is located here now.

Saint Elizabeth of Hungary Roman Catholic Church
432 Sheppard Ave. East,
Willowdale (Toronto), Ontario, Canada,

 

[YukonJack]

Thanks, Unforgiven. After I married a Canadian girl, I lost touch with the Hungarian community. (You know, assimilation, such a totally foreign concept to recent immigrants). I never realized that there was such a heavy Northbound move. I live in Winnipeg now, but maybe next time I am Toronto, I will drop in, although the priest who married us has long been dead.