On The Verge Of Nuclear Meltdown Within ‘Few’ Hours

petros

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Funny you ask. An article I read, while doing my research stated that the Russian Government has allowed some people to move back into the area but that there is an exclusion zone. The Wildlife Sanctuary is included in this area and it is flourishing. Flourishing.

Flourishing.
Go ahead and eat it. Russian Govt? Pri-pyat is in Ukraine. Joogle some modern stuff.
 

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This event was/is not a Chernobyl.

The earth quake triggered a reactor shutdown and the control rods stopped the reactor (as much as it can be stopped, without completely removing the fuel rods). Later, when the Japanese reactors lost cooling capability, the reactor over heated because fuel rods give off heat even when the reactor is shut down. The longer the rods have been in the core, the more heat they give off. While the damage was significant, it wasn't catastrophic.

During the Chernobyl event, the control rods seized in the full power position. Think of Chernobyl as putting your car in neutral and applying full throttle. Think of this Japanese event as running your car at idle with no coolant. Both events will damage your car, but they aren't the same type of event.

Hopefully the Japanese will be able to remove all fuel rods and completely stop the reaction. But it looks like at least some fuel rods are jammed in the core and can't be removed. If so, that reactor is damaged beyond repair. Those reactor cores will likely be encased in concrete and in a few years they will cool off on their own. Then they will probably tear it apart. A limited amount radiation was released and will continue to be released. But its on a scale that this will only be a serious problem for the immediate area.

Meanwhile the news is just trying to make you afraid, to boost viewership.
 

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Go ahead and eat it. Russian Govt? Pri-pyat is in Ukraine. Joogle some modern stuff.

You are correct Petros. My mistake. At the time of Chernobyl it was the Soviet Union.

So the Ukranian Govt that is allowing people to move back in, etc, etc...

And it was modern stuff from last December. I just said Russian government instead of Ukranian government.

Oh... Flourishing.
 

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It was and still is Ukraine. They've had their own govt since 1961 thanks to Kruschev who was a Uke.

I just heard this one Saturday. I think you'll enjoy it. CBC.ca | Quirks & Quarks | A Nuclear Tourist in Chernobyl Frugivorous Fish in the Forests The Earliest North Americans? Mysterious Mercury Meets Messenger Climate Change in the Deep Future

Ah come on. The Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union during the Chernobyl accident. Let's not get silly on this now. It became its own country in 1991.
 

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Japan may suffer of the consequences of its earthquake and tsunami, may be for ten years or more.
In most Japanese houses there the idols are erected and the idolatry is practiced.

As I said in my previous reply, that was God's punishment for the wrongdoers, and the worst wrong-doing is the associating of patrons [their religious leaders] and idols with God Moat Gracious.

And once again I assert for the Japanese people and for all people to embrace the last heavenly religion: the Islam and to believe in God alone without associate and in the next afterlife, the Quran and the noble Prophet Mohammed.

The fate of all associaters [whether Jews, Christians, Muslims and others] will be sooner or later the same as the Japanese or worse.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/spirituality-philosophy/80050-patron-saint.html

quran-ayat.co
 

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Please. We already have a thread dedicated to your version of bat**** insanity.
 

eh1eh

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Ah come on. The Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union during the Chernobyl accident. Let's not get silly on this now. It became its own country in 1991.


Come on you guys. If you want to split hairs go to that hairy muff site.

Oh dear, that was a pun rich statement.
 

petros

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Ah come on. The Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union during the Chernobyl accident. Let's not get silly on this now. It became its own country in 1991.
Nope. Independant since 1961. It was because of independance that the USSR fell apart.

It's a good omen for Canada on having Quebec and the Bloc. Identical situation.

Anyway I hope you enjoy the radio interview and in the mean time try avoiding any airborne radio isotopes.
 

petros

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Look into what happened to Belarus after the "yellow rain" after they cloud seeded to avoid the cesium cloud hitting St Petrosbourg.
 

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Nope. Independant since 1961. It was because of independance that the USSR fell apart.

You were right. Now you are wrong. It was not independent in 1961. It was part of the USSR. Sorry. One need only to look up the History of Ukraine.

History of Ukraine


Excerpt...

"Ukraine became an independent state on August 24, 1991, and was a co-founder of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, although it has not officially joined the organization.

Following free elections held on December 1, 1991, Leonid M. Kravchuk, former chairman of the Ukrainian Rada, was elected president for a five-year term. At the same time, a referendum on independence was approved by more than 90% of the voters. Political groupings in Ukraine include former communists, socialists, agrarians, liberals, nationalists and various centrist and independent forces."


How did the Ukranian Olympic Teams do in the 60's, 70's and 80's?


You should have quit while you were ahead Petros. :)
 

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Funny you ask. An article I read, while doing my research stated that the Russian Government has allowed some people to move back into the area but that there is an exclusion zone. The Wildlife Sanctuary is included in this area and it is flourishing. Flourishing.

Flourishing.
No pictures of the area from '86 -2006? I assume dead trees would be part of the no-go zone. Flooding the contaminated areas with hemp might even speed things up, till the roof falls in and then you have that pseky cloud if brand new dust. Japan know now you only have to rinse it off and it's good to go.

Seeing Japan 'survive' 6 'bombs' will make the 60 (planned)dropped on Iran almost a 2nd page news story. Just stay upwind of the damaged areas
 

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This event was/is not a Chernobyl.

The earth quake triggered a reactor shutdown and the control rods stopped the reactor (as much as it can be stopped, without completely removing the fuel rods). Later, when the Japanese reactors lost cooling capability, the reactor over heated because fuel rods give off heat even when the reactor is shut down. The longer the rods have been in the core, the more heat they give off. While the damage was significant, it wasn't catastrophic.

During the Chernobyl event, the control rods seized in the full power position. Think of Chernobyl as putting your car in neutral and applying full throttle. Think of this Japanese event as running your car at idle with no coolant. Both events will damage your car, but they aren't the same type of event.

Hopefully the Japanese will be able to remove all fuel rods and completely stop the reaction. But it looks like at least some fuel rods are jammed in the core and can't be removed. If so, that reactor is damaged beyond repair. Those reactor cores will likely be encased in concrete and in a few years they will cool off on their own. Then they will probably tear it apart. A limited amount radiation was released and will continue to be released. But its on a scale that this will only be a serious problem for the immediate area.

Meanwhile the news is just trying to make you afraid, to boost viewership.

I'm somewhat curious about whether or not you understand what happened, because your desription seems to leave out a lot of details.

What about the pools of spent rods that have no water left in them?
How do you expect the Japanese to get into the reactor to remove the fuel rods - have you looked at any of the pictures?
 

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Indonesia Tsunami... Have a nice day Ean.


Indonesia tsunami was for the wrong-doers: the enthusiastic and associaters among Muslims, which are not worse than the atheist and associaters among Christians and Jews.

Today, I said to some people coming to the place where I work:

If the Japanese earthquake lasts one day, but the Muslim earthquake is lasting 50 years: because of your enthusiasm and association, Muslims. If the Jappanese have their idols in their houses, but your idols ( the pictures and images of the imams ) are also in your houses (like the statues in the Christian houses); therefore, we should devote ourselves to God alone and leave all the enthusiasm about the imams and sheikhs; in order to be saved. If you, Muslims, choose this devotion, you will prosper and if not then you will be defeated.
Some of them agree and others insist on their enthusiasm.

The First Commandment
 

petros

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You were right. Now you are wrong. It was not independent in 1961. It was part of the USSR. Sorry. One need only to look up the History of Ukraine.

History of Ukraine


Excerpt...

"Ukraine became an independent state on August 24, 1991, and was a co-founder of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, although it has not officially joined the organization.

Following free elections held on December 1, 1991, Leonid M. Kravchuk, former chairman of the Ukrainian Rada, was elected president for a five-year term. At the same time, a referendum on independence was approved by more than 90% of the voters. Political groupings in Ukraine include former communists, socialists, agrarians, liberals, nationalists and various centrist and independent forces."


How did the Ukranian Olympic Teams do in the 60's, 70's and 80's?


You should have quit while you were ahead Petros. :)
Iternallly and externaly are two different things. Just like Quebec fronts it's own party in Canadian gov. Did you miss that line? I can quote it. Did you listen to the the nuclear tourist yet?

It's a good omen for Canada on having Quebec and the Bloc. Identical situation.
Want a bowl of borscht from Pripyat beets?