Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?

JLM

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I have no evidence any of the other leaders have lied. Do you?



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In this case, the word of this separatist is indisputable. The PPost system is what has taught me to keep my mouth shut until I'm aware of the facts. That way, I don't look foolish. You should really try it sometime.



Poor bastard. I paid 253,000

My heart just bleeds for the both of you? Of course it's all part of overhead and charged back accordingly. :lol:
 

Cliffy

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Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?


Nope. I would rather see the Greens or the Rhinos if any of them are still around. Harper is a thoroughly dangerous man.
 

JLM

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I have no evidence any of the other leaders have lied. Do you?

Yep, I was supposed to have been rich years ago. :lol:

Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?


Nope. I would rather see the Greens or the Rhinos if any of them are still around. Harper is a thoroughly dangerous man.

Nah, he's been at the helm now for several years and we're mostly still intact. :smile:

I never said I was any better than anyone else.....well....maybe public employees outside of the military, police and fire fighters.

You may want to reduce your spectrum of ignorance and add such honourable members as forestry workers, fish and wildlife workers and literally thousands of employees who dedicate their lives to the care and protection of orphaned and mistreated children. Add to that the many inspectors who improve our chances of survival. Don't forget the creeps in the private sector who cheap out on home construction putting lives at risk for a quick buck. If you are uncertain check with Mike Holmes. :smile:
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Are you in favor of no government support to any industries? Or do you only feel that the entertainment industry shouldn't have government support available?

I believe in mentoring programs for young musicians and the arts. I am also in favour of funding our healthcare system, but the way it is delivered must be looked at very seriously. And if someone like the RICH AND FAMOUS AVRO wants to pay for an MRI he should be able to.

There are lot of programs that could be revamped to deliver better service at a lower cost..

Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?

Nope. I would rather see the Greens or the Rhinos if any of them are still around. Harper is a thoroughly dangerous man.

Well thank goodness that you are in the minority.

New polls project Harper majority, research institute finds

WATERLOO – For the first time since the 2008 election, an analysis of new polls projects a majority for the Conservative Party, according to The Laurier Institute for the Study of Public Opinion and Policy.

A LISPOP analysis of recent polls projects a seat distribution of 157 seats for the Harper Conservatives. Today’s projection is based on an aggregation of polls conducted by Ipsos Reid, Nanos Research and Harris-Decima from March 10 to 23, 2011, with a blended sample of about 5,000 individuals. The regional swing model also projects 68 seats for the Liberals, 32 seats for the NDP and 51 seats for the Bloc Québécois.

Gonna get pretty ugly around here after election time:lol:
 

Cliffy

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Nah, he's been at the helm now for several years and we're mostly still intact. :smile:
Give him a majority and see where we stand in a few years. He has almost broke the country financially, he is in contempt of parliament and therefor all of us. And his mega-prisons are not meant for real criminals, you can bet on that.
 

Unforgiven

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13 billion dollar surplus, blown.
56 billion dollar deficit currently.
200 billion more in debt and ongoing.
War on two fronts currently.
Health care sinking.
Economy stagnant.
Recovery stalled.
Wasteful spending (hello G20) currently.
No confidence in the government.
No confidence in Harper.
Lies.
Sandal.
In contempt of Parliament for hiding cost information on F35s and Super Max prisons.
In contempt of the people for changing signed documents and lying about doing it.
In contempt of Canada for putting us all in this situation for nothing more than ego and spite.

The Conservatives deserve another chance all right. To form the official opposition.

No coalitions either ya bunch of hypocrites.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Give him a majority and see where we stand in a few years.

Fear mongering.

He has almost broke the country financially,

Endorsed by all parties, but still more fearmongering.


he is in contempt of parliament and therefor all of us.

That might have had some teeth had the opposition saw passed their desperate grab for power.

And his mega-prisons are not meant for real criminals, you can bet on that.

Really, who are they meant for?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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13 billion dollar surplus, blown. With Opposition approval
56 billion dollar deficit currently. Opposition endorsed
200 billion more in debt and ongoing.
War on two fronts currently. Get real we have six jets in Libya
Health care sinking. It was sinking long before the Cons
Economy stagnant. Recovering
Recovery stalled. Horsehockey
Wasteful spending (hello G20) currently. Agreed could have been done somewhere else
No confidence in the government. Who? 43% have confidence
No confidence in Harper. #1 pick of all Leaders by Canadians Ipsos Reid Poll
Lies. Blasphemy
Sandal. Like Jesus Sandals? Or croc Sandals?
In contempt of Parliament for hiding cost information on F35s and Super Max prisons. Hang on a sec your repeating yourself
In contempt of the people for changing signed documents and lying about doing it. Hang on a sec your repeating yourself again
In contempt of Canada for putting us all in this situation for nothing more than ego and spite. Pontificating

The Conservatives deserve another chance all right. To form the official opposition. GO POT PARTY

No coalitions either ya bunch of hypocrites. I agree Coalitions suck

Peace dude!

Perhaps but then it would only prove what I have been saying for decades about the average intelligence of the Canadian voter.
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Unforgiven

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Fear mongering.

You mean like saying you could form a coalition with the Bloc and the NDP and then say it's evil to do so?

Endorsed by all parties, but still more fearmongering.

Like saying the Liberals will form a coalition with the Bloc and the NDP after the Liberals have said publicly that there is no coalition?

That might have had some teeth had the opposition saw passed their desperate grab for power.

Yeah all they had to do was vote to pass a bill all opposition said they would never pass. Then they could have watched while Harper prorogued parliament yet again to avoid being censured for it. Of course the budget would have been passed and all the whoas of the current economic status of Canada could be then laid on their shoulders.

That would be a bit like calling the neocons power hungry for voting against a budget that guts the military during a Liberal government.

Really, who are they meant for?

Certainly not violent offenders. Those who cultivate their own Cannabis for sure. Political decent most definitely.
Not ex Conservative members caught with Cocaine, drunk while speeding. No way those types are going to any prison let alone SuperMax. The poor will get to fill most of those cells. Some of the crazy too when they go off their meds they can't afford since we all know the banks, and oil companies need to get some tax breaks.
 

Durry

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Are you in favor of no government support to any industries? Or do you only feel that the entertainment industry shouldn't have government support available?

No support to anybody!!!!
If it can't stand on it's own feet, why should I be supporting it ???
 

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No support to anybody!!!!
If it can't stand on it's own feet, why should I be supporting it ???

Exactly. So, no government support to oil companies. Or car companies. Or high tech companies. Or farmers. No government grants or tax breaks to any commercial operations whatsoever.

That's a good plan, let's see if you can get it to fly.
 

Cliffy

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Fear mongering.

Endorsed by all parties, but still more fearmongering.

That might have had some teeth had the opposition saw passed their desperate grab for power.

Really, who are they meant for?
And all the BS about Iggy and Jack is not fear mongering? Or the Bloq?

As for the use of prisons - just look to the G8/G20 show of force in TO.
Democracy is dead. Harper wants to bury the corpse.
 

Durry

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Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?
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They really are the only choice.
The others are all tax and spend spend spend types.

Jack Layton thinks he is the only one who knows how to spend money.
Have you EVER seen him make a statement on how he would increase the countries revenue besides increasing taxes ??

Smart people spend only after they have the money to spend !!
 

Cliffy

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They really are the only choice.
The others are all tax and spend spend spend types.

Jack Layton thinks he is the only one who knows how to spend money.
Have you EVER seen him make a statement on how he would increase the countries revenue besides increasing taxes ??

Smart people spend only after they have the money to spend !!
Oh like Harper did when he chalked up a 55 billion deficit. Did someone poke out your eyes?
 

Durry

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Oh like Harper did when he chalked up a 55 billion deficit. Did someone poke out your eyes?

The stimulus package was necessary to ensure we could suvive the down turn in the world economy.
As a result of his managment of the economy we are recovering very nicely. We are the best in the G8. The proof is in the pudding, as they say !!
 

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First of all, you never answered my sandals question and for that I am eternally hurt.

Now, on to the smackdown!:naka:


You mean like saying you could form a coalition with the Bloc and the NDP and then say it's evil to do so?

Oh I agree it is political fear mongering. I think the thing that pisses Liberals right off is that he is using their own game against them.

As for Harper flirting with the idea. I agree. Coalitions are total bullsh*t.

The people should have the say who serves, not a bunch of drooling politicians.

Like saying the Liberals will form a coalition with the Bloc and the NDP after the Liberals have said publicly that there is no coalition?
Well as you pointed out yourself. Politicians lie. Dion said no way to colitions then three weeks after the election they made their move. The Liberal are surely regretting that now.

Yeah all they had to do was vote to pass a bill all opposition said they would never pass. Then they could have watched while Harper prorogued parliament yet again to avoid being censured for it.
I doubt that would have happened.

Of course the budget would have been passed and all the whoas of the current economic status of Canada could be then laid on their shoulders.
I think your going a bit over the top here Unf.

That would be a bit like calling the neocons power hungry for voting against a budget that guts the military during a Liberal government.
If you don't want to pay for the military, use Avro's logic and don't send them anywhere. In 1997 just as my Tour to Croatia was cancelled because our UN post had been overrun in a spring offensive the Chief of Defense Staff declared "At least you get to keep your boots gents" That was because we were so short on money that all of our issue kit had to be turned over to the Patricia's who were bound for Bosnia.


Certainly not violent offenders. Those who cultivate their own Cannabis for sure. Political decent most definitely.
Not ex Conservative members caught with Cocaine, drunk while speeding.
Ex being the word. Come on Unf, the prison system is overcrowded. The Don Jail is kicking out gang bangers gioving away 2 for 1 days served.

No way those types are going to any prison let alone SuperMax. The poor will get to fill most of those cells. Some of the crazy too when they go off their meds they can't afford since we all know the banks, and oil companies need to get some tax breaks.
What about murders, rapists and pedophiles? Or is that who you equate to the poor and mentally ill.

I am with you 100% regarding marijuana laws. I don't support three strikes, but we have killers doing six years. They are giving violent offenders weekends in Thorold.

As for Cliffy's assumption about G20. Bullsh*t. Nothing more.


Now, are you going to answer my sandal question or not?
 
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And all the BS about Iggy and Jack is not fear mongering? Or the Bloq?

As for the use of prisons - just look to the G8/G20 show of force in TO.
Democracy is dead. Harper wants to bury the corpse.

A bunch of punk kids wearing black balaclavas smashing windows, spray painting buildings, and lighting cars on fire, you call this democracy? This is who the police had no choice but to contain with force, not the kind folks who protested peacefully. Notice how the "anarchists" didn't want the cameras on them and they didn't want to speak their opinion to the media? If they were legit they would have protested peacefully like the rest of the crowd and they would have been left alone by the police. There is nothing democratic about them in the least. They're bent on violence and vandalism which throws all their credibility out the window!

Tell me this is democracy. Tell me!

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Durry

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There is nothing wrong with a coalition forming government.
BUT, to be legitament, they MUST get their mandate from the people to govern, ie tell the people your a coalition and let the people vote for you.