Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

[BaalsTears]

Obama doesn't have any strategic objectives, action plan or end game in Libya. He has simply wandered into war because it feels good to pursue humanitarianism. Obama said Gadhafi must go. That means a negotiated settlement is now out of the question. Now Obama cannot fail.

Obama is reactive, not proactive. Obama is the Ugly American on vacation in Rio. What a joke.

 

[Machjo]

My opinion of him has not changed since the beginning... a Mini-Bush.

He's still better than Bush of course, but then again, compared to a blind man, the one-eyed with foggy vision can see much better.

I still have a feeling McCain-Palin would have been much worse!

 

[EagleSmack]

My opinion of him has not changed since the beginning... a Mini-Bush.

He's still better than Bush of course, but then again, compared to a blind man, the one-eyed with foggy vision can see much better.

I still have a feeling McCain-Palin would have been much worse!

I don't see how he is better at all. He kept two wars going and just added one more. GITMO is still open. He increased the debt even higher, unemployment is higher.

 

[Machjo]

I don't see how he is better at all. He kept two wars going and just added one more. GITMO is still open. He increased the debt even higher, unemployment is higher.

Don't forget though that he inherited the wars, GITMO, and a financial crisis. And even Bush and McCain were all in favour of bailouts, so Obama was not so unique on that front. Overall, I'd say simply continuing to maintain that mess is still not as bad as having started the mess in the first place. But no, Obama is not much better than Bush, and we could even argue that he is no better. But worse is harder to pin on him. At least he hasn't started any more unilateral wars (he was smart enough to get the world on side for Libya so as to ensure the US is not left shouldering the burden alone, unlike his predecessor did with Iraq along with a rag tag of a handful of countries carrying the entire burden on their own sholders, part of the reason for the US' economic woes today).

 

[EagleSmack]

Don't forget though that he inherited the wars,

Yes. He promised to stop at least Iraq. He didn't.

Instead he continued two and started a third.

GITMO,

He promised to close it down. He didn't

and a financial crisis.

He made it worse.

And even Bush and McCain were all in favour of bailouts, so Obama was not so unique on that front.

Who cares. The bailouts were a stupid idea period. It was corporate welfare.

Overall, I'd say simply continuing to maintain that mess is still not as bad as having started the mess in the first place.

Say whaaaat?

Obama SAID he was going to fix it... not maintain and make it worse.

But no, Obama is not much better than Bush, and we could even argue that he is no better. But worse is harder to pin on him. At least he hasn't started any more unilateral wars

A war is a war and we shouldn't be involved in Libya anymore than we should have been in Iraq.

Why do you feel that because we have a UN blessing it is ok?

(he was smart enough to get the world on side for Libya so as to ensure the US is not left shouldering the burden alone, unlike his predecessor did with Iraq along with a rag tag of a handful of countries carrying the entire burden on their own sholders, part of the reason for the US' economic woes today).

The world isn't on our side. The Arab League is already withdrawing their support because we are bombing OTHER Libyans cross eyed. Russia, China, Germany abstained.

 

[JLM]

Don't despair you can get rid of him in a couple of years and who knows - by that time maybe young Jeb Bush will be ready to give it a shot.

 

[EagleSmack]

Don't despair you can get rid of him in a couple of years and who knows - by that time maybe young Jeb Bush will be ready to give it a shot.

I think we'll have Obama for another four. I care not to see another Bush in the White House. I liked the other Bush's, particularly the first one. Having Jeb in the White House will just be a nut show with the libs and Democrats.

 

[Goober]

I think we'll have Obama for another four. I care not to see another Bush in the White House. I liked the other Bush's, particularly the first one. Having Jeb in the White House will just be a nut show with the libs and Democrats.

If a moderate Republican raises their head above ground level, the wackos play Wack a Mole. Sad to say but the far right wing nuts like Palin and Beck to name a few have a large and vocal presence.

But even Fox is thinking about giving Beck the Old Chop - Been over the top lately.

When I was growing up my dad told me a few things to be wary of

Man with a vision - back then it was understood they were suffering from a mental illness, some of them anyways, it also applied to those that suddenly found god. Out trying to convert the rest of us heathens to put it mildly.

Then you had those that gave up drink - well they were the same type as those smoking Nazi's that we see today.

We have a writer from the East Coast of Canada, Newfoundland. I rather like what he write.

Rex Murphy: When crisis strikes the world, Obama falls silent | Full Comment | National Post

There’s a great vacancy at the top of the world: A retreat by the American government from its global leadership role.

From the end of the First World War right up until about a year ago, there could be no gainsaying the predominant role of the United States in the world, the product of its economic and military power, and its active, however spotty, promotion of the core concepts of liberty and democracy. The tired metaphor of the United States as a beacon to the oppressed has been no less true for all its fatigue. Similarly, the style, vigour and continuously innovative broad popular culture of the United States has proved to be a benign contagion to the young of the world, meaning that America also has had an enormous secondary or “soft” influence on the great events and broad currents of an always changing and dangerous globe.

But since the election of Barack Obama, there has been a subtle, un-articulated, but quite definite withdrawal from the United States’ earned stature as a pre-eminent and shaping influence on the key events and forces of our time.

 

[EagleSmack]

That was pretty good Goober and there is a ring of truth to what he has to say.

As far as a GOP candidate that can beat Obama, I doubt it. The GOP forerunners lack the charisma or are polarizing at this time. Focus on getting the Senate back and fortifying the House of Reps is what they should do.

 

[Goober]

That was pretty good Goober and there is a ring of truth to what he has to say.

As far as a GOP candidate that can beat Obama, I doubt it. The GOP forerunners lack the charisma or are polarizing at this time. Focus on getting the Senate back and fortifying the House of Reps is what they should do.

The sad thing is if they do not cooperate and get the economy moving the poor and middle class pay - The reason the Tea baggers are so popular is due to the complete disgust with the Politicians. And yes Obama inherited a freaking mess.

His focus is 2012 - Nothing else - 2012.

 

[ironsides]

The 10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level​

1. Detroit , MI​

32.5%​

2. Buffalo , NY​

29.9%​

3. Cincinnati , OH​

27.8%​

4. Cleveland , OH​

27.0%​

5. Miami , FL​

26.9%​

5. St.. Louis , MO​

26.8%​

7. El Paso , TX​

26.4%​

8. Milwaukee , WI​

26.2%​

9. Philadelphia,PA​

25.1%​

10. Newark , NJ​

24.2%​

U.S. Census Bureau, ​

2006 American Community Survey, August 2007​

What do the top ten cities (with over 250,000 in population)​

with the highest poverty rate all have in common?​

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Detroit , MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961​

​

Buffalo , NY (2nd) ​

hasn't elected one since 1954​

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Cincinnati , OH - (3rd)... ​

since 1984​

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Cleveland , OH - (4th)...​

since 1989​

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Miami , FL - (5th) ​

has never had a Republican mayor​

​

St. Louis , MO - (6th)... ​

since 1949​

​

El Paso , TX - (7th) ​

has never had a Republican mayor​

​

Milwaukee , WI - (8th)... ​

since 1908​

​

Philadelphia , PA - (9th)... ​

since 1952​

​

Newark , NJ - (10th)... ​

since 1907.​

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It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats--- ​

yet they are still POOR​

​

WHY?​

​

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.​

​

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.​

​

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.​

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You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.​

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You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.​

​

You cannot build character and courage ​

by taking away people's initiative and independence.​

​

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, ​

what they could and should do for themselves."​

Abraham Lincoln.​

 

[EagleSmack]

The sad thing is if they do not cooperate and get the economy moving the poor and middle class pay - The reason the Tea baggers are so popular is due to the complete disgust with the Politicians. And yes Obama inherited a freaking mess.

His focus is 2012 - Nothing else - 2012.

He inherited a mess... but he made it much worse. In addition he wanted this inheritance. He said he could fix it and has failed thus far.

The 10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen

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Strong Democrat strongholds each one.​

 

[mentalfloss]

What?!?

He shouldn't but since he did he is right but too late.

Pass that **** over, I've gotta try what you're smoking.

Avro, don't you know that you're a deluded liberal who just supports his leader no matter what?

Why not join our comfy couch of republican democrats instead? George W. Obama is doing a fine job!

 

[EagleSmack]

Why not join our comfy couch of republican democrats instead? George W. Obama is doing a fine job!

Republican Democrats? No sir... they're Democrats... liberal democrats. With Republicans you know what you're going to get. Democrats slither in.

 

[Avro]

The 10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level


1. Detroit , MI


32.5%


2. Buffalo , NY


29.9%


3. Cincinnati , OH


27.8%


4. Cleveland , OH


27.0%


5. Miami , FL


26.9%


5. St.. Louis , MO


26.8%


7. El Paso , TX


26.4%


8. Milwaukee , WI


26.2%


9. Philadelphia,PA


25.1%


10. Newark , NJ


24.2%


U.S. Census Bureau,


2006 American Community Survey, August 2007


What do the top ten cities (with over 250,000 in population)


with the highest poverty rateall have in common?​

Detroit , MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961​

Buffalo , NY (2nd)


hasn't elected one since 1954​

Cincinnati , OH - (3rd)...


since 1984​

Cleveland , OH - (4th)...


since 1989​

Miami , FL - (5th)


has never had a Republican mayor​

St. Louis , MO - (6th)...


since 1949​

El Paso , TX - (7th)


has never had a Republican mayor​

Milwaukee , WI - (8th)...


since 1908​

Philadelphia , PA - (9th)...


since 1952​

Newark , NJ - (10th)...


since 1907.​

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---


yet they are still POOR​

WHY?​

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.​

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.​

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.​

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.​

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.​

You cannot build character and courage


by taking away people's initiative and independence.​

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,


what they could and should do for themselves."

Abraham Lincoln.​

Fail!

Lincoln never said it and out goes the credibility of what you just posted.:lol:

Seriuosly, do you even check what you copy and paste?

Wonder what other varibles played a part?

What about the richest cities like SF, SJ and Seattle.

Like a horse with blinders on ironside leads the charge for fat cats.

 

[YukonJack]

"Wonder what other varibles played a part?

What about the richest cities like SF, SJ and Seattle."

It would be interesting to check the demographics.

 

[mentalfloss]

Republican Democrats? No sir... they're Democrats... liberal democrats. With Republicans you know what you're going to get. Democrats slither in.

And your definition of a Republican is?

 

[EagleSmack]

And your definition of a Republican is?

What does that matter? How does the definition of Republican fit in here?

 

[mentalfloss]

Because Republicans support the Democrat-led intervention in Libya, but you're telling me that these same Republicans are now actually liberal democrats? Colpy, Durry and YJ are liberal-democrats?

I find that hard to believe.

 

[DaSleeper]

Even Obama has to get something right.....once in a while....better late than never....