Don't you just love how supporters and apologists shift blame? No accountability, it's good enough if the opposition parties didn't vote it down. What a pile of crap.
Cotton Pickers
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Don't you just love how supporters and apologists shift blame? No accountability, it's good enough if the opposition parties didn't vote it down. What a pile of crap.
I'd love to agree, if it weren't for the fact that he said "right fringe" and the Senator seems to be standing alone.
What the ****? What a dazzle-razzle. I thought we Canadians would pride ourselves on being different than the Yanks? Making a bitch and whail over a "race card" setatement is so Yankee-doodle.
It's interesting what has been happening within the Conservative bloc, about 3 Reforms have been purged in the last week. Are we returning to the Mulroney (red) Tories?
That'll complicate things out here in Western Canada.
It's interesting what has been happening within the Conservative bloc, about 3 Reforms have been purged in the last week. Are we returning to the Mulroney (red) Tories?
That'll complicate things out here in Western Canada.
Yes but the difference here is they try to make government work. Now this is not something you neocons understand as there hasn't been a majority since Mulroney flushed the party down the toilet, grabbed his payola and scrammed. So you have had to simply accept what the Liberals did because no one cared what you thought about it. Only when the Liberal Party fractured and Martin was weak due to infighting, did the neocons have any chance to try and make the government work.
Sadly instead of attempting to do that, the Reformers who own the Conservative Party today, had no interest in making the government work. Canada schmanada the Reformers have always and will always be about grasping and holding power. This is what we see today with them bending over backwards for the NDP simply to avoid a non-confidence vote when the Liberals call them on their crap.
But don't you worry, the knives are being sharpened and Harper can only hold the blood thirsty Reformers down for so long. Already Day and Strahl and Caummins have been driven out, surely with the kindest of suggestions of a booting as the venom starts to flow amongst the rank and file neocons.
Soon enough the books will fall open and the truth about the neocon mismanagement will be open for all to see.
I am sure there will be plenty of blame for the Liberals at that point.
Come on Unf, that opinion isn't supported by history.
And you think that is a trapping reserved for just the "neocons"?
I'm sure it will be on par with past Liberal performances.
If one so chooses, one can easily find adequate blame to go around. It's only honestly appropriate.
Come on Unf, that opinion isn't supported by history.
Sure it is. The government has bent over for each of the parties in return for their support on a bill.
Give and take is what government must do to govern rather than just what it wants to do.
We're in the here and now. The past doesn't justify the present.
Wasn't that the big reason for your to want the Liberals out of power? Seems that you should be up in arms
about that.
In the words of Ricky, "Why do ya hafta go blame the thing up?".
Cotton picker (n) informal;
1. someone who pulls the cotton from their psyschotropic medication bottle and still believes they live in a free and democratic society.
1. someone who pulls the cotton from their psyschotropic medication bottle and still believes they live in a free and democratic society.
Did I mistake your insinuation that only the other parties have worked?
I realize that, but you seem to be negating everyone else in your attempts to make a single party the recipient of all the blame. Not to mention negating the fact that all parties are in it to win, full stop.
Why would I be up in arms about a "maybe"? When it becomes a reality, I'll beat up my computer for you.
No thanx, i use toilet paper...
Absolutely not!
I'd have faced the SOBs down over the Coalition attempt, let them have power.........and wear the consequences in the inevitable election.
I'd cancel all payments to political parties....you want money? RAISE it!
Man, you want to see the touchy-feely cash handouts gets slashed and burned, give me the reins for a few months........KAIROS would owe the gov't money....
I would also cancel corporate tax cuts. I think they are nuts, as our tax rate is one half that of the USA (according to a CBC program I heard) I hate to say it, but probably that point or two needs to go back on the GST.....and a tax on bank profits....and a raise in the highest brackets.......and some slash and burn on spending. Start firing assholes. Start with the HRCs. Tell the UN "fund thyself". Oh my......such fun!
I think the war on crime (and drugs) is idiotic and expensive......as is the war on gun owners....throw out the Firearms Act completely...fire THAT bunch of idiots.....ALL we need is simple licensing.
I do believe we need a very well equipped military.
There are many things the Conservatives do I don't like. But they are miles ahead of the opposition.
Which, BTW, used every weapon in its arsenal to get the Conservatives to spend MORE money.......and is still doing so, even while they complain about the deficit.
Indeed they do, and if they actually disagreed with the Conservatives' way of running the country, they would have forced an election. Except, oh wait, they didn't want one. So they went along with stuff.
In the upcoming campaign, I'm going to make the point that the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc are equally responsible for the way the country has been run, because they refused to force an election, thereby giving tacit approval. They can't run from that. It's like when someone is bullying, either you're part of the problem, or part of the solution. And the opposition parties have refused to be part of the solution, but I'm sure they'll list off what they see as problems once a campaign gets underway.
I'd cancel all payments to political parties....you want money? RAISE it!
Man, you want to see the touchy-feely cash handouts gets slashed and burned, give me the reins for a few months........KAIROS would owe the gov't money....
I would also cancel corporate tax cuts. I think they are nuts, as our tax rate is one half that of the USA (according to a CBC program I heard) I hate to say it, but probably that point or two needs to go back on the GST.....and a tax on bank profits....and a raise in the highest brackets.......and some slash and burn on spending. Start firing assholes. Start with the HRCs. Tell the UN "fund thyself". Oh my......such fun!
I think the war on crime (and drugs) is idiotic and expensive......as is the war on gun owners....throw out the Firearms Act completely...fire THAT bunch of idiots.....ALL we need is simple licensing.
Will you stop it Colpy, I hate it when we agree on things.
I would only disagree on adding a bit more GST. If they taxed the rich and corporations properly we could probably eliminate it completely. And only responsible gun owners will license (not that I am irresponsible with any firearms I may or may not have without holding a PAL) so lets get rid of the licensing too along with the firearms act.
I agree with you right up until the partisan stuff and I'd toss in a mandate eliminating the lobbyists who are corporate funded.Absolutely not!
I'd have faced the SOBs down over the Coalition attempt, let them have power.........and wear the consequences in the inevitable election.
I'd cancel all payments to political parties....you want money? RAISE it!
Man, you want to see the touchy-feely cash handouts gets slashed and burned, give me the reins for a few months........KAIROS would owe the gov't money....
I would also cancel corporate tax cuts. I think they are nuts, as our tax rate is one half that of the USA (according to a CBC program I heard) I hate to say it, but probably that point or two needs to go back on the GST.....and a tax on bank profits....and a raise in the highest brackets.......and some slash and burn on spending. Start firing assholes. Start with the HRCs. Tell the UN "fund thyself". Oh my......such fun!
I think the war on crime (and drugs) is idiotic and expensive......as is the war on gun owners....throw out the Firearms Act completely...fire THAT bunch of idiots.....ALL we need is simple licensing.
I do believe we need a very well equipped military.
There are many things the Conservatives do I don't like. But they are miles ahead of the opposition.
Which, BTW, used every weapon in its arsenal to get the Conservatives to spend MORE money.......and is still doing so, even while they complain about the deficit.
Why give them your money Colpy? They already get $1.75 from the taxpayers for every vote they get.
Donate locally to real charities to pick up the slack where the govt fails like a kid's hospital.
Corporate funded lobbyists are the most dangerous threat to democracy. Corporate chairs in universities need to be punted too. They can build heir own damn labs and staff them with their own money instead of leeching off of the student and taxpayer.
Yes I think you are mistaken. Meaning that there has always been a majority government that simply makes policy without much regard for the other parties as they own the majority in the House.
When Martin had a minority government, the Torys went at it hammer and tong in order to make the government fail and trigger an election. They didn't ask for anything that might make this or that issue better or resolve anything, they just asked for an election and eventually got one.
This difference here is that the neocons will spoon feed the NDP or the Liberals what they want simply to keep from triggering an election.
After Dion, no one wanted an election in the Liberal party. They were broke. But then again they didn't have benefit of the in and out scandal currently stuffed in Harper's closet along with all the other ones. Since then they have been putting together the money and while not the war chest Chrétien had, it's enough to run a campaign.
Now the pieces are going into place, an election is coming. I don't think Harper has a majority. That will kill him.
All parties are, though each politician must account for themselves before the electorate and when there is nothing there, some other politician wannabe is going to pick up on that and skin them. So you have to make something happen that you can go back to the people with. The Liberals cleaned house after the Gomery Commission. Necons have fresh scandal to deal with, plus a slow and fragile economy. Little Jimmy Flaherty ain't no Paul Martin when it comes to the finances.
This claim is worthless without pictures!
No thanx, i use toilet paper...
Man you are totally going to be living indoors in no time dude! Way to go.
I don't think we need to look very hard to find roles for all the Looney Tunes!
These "leaders" don't inspire me,so they might as well entertain me