Too many pills

JLM

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Maybe these brain dead seniors should be taking a more active roll in their health care and start questioning their doctors and doing a little research on their own.

I almost totally agree with you Gerry. I would just change "brain dead seniors" to "seniors". You'll find as you age you can't help it. :lol:
 

petros

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I almost totally agree with you Gerry. I would just change "brain dead seniors" to "seniors". You'll find as you age you can't help it. :lol:
The more you think the more permanent the neural connections are. Don't stop thinking about happy things and you stay sharp and look and feel great. Oh yeah and stay away from booze. That **** will take you out 20 years early.
 

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I almost totally agree with you Gerry. I would just change "brain dead seniors" to "seniors". You'll find as you age you can't help it. :lol:


Nope, any one that happily agrees with everything their doctor says and takes and does everything without question is braindead.
 

JLM

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Nope, any one that happily agrees with everything their doctor says and takes and does everything without question is braindead.

And then there's the other side of the equation- those who go to the doctor looking for his advice and then DON'T take it.
 

petros

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Those who can't look up a drug name or group of symptoms on-line or by phoning the provincial health advice hotline before they go to the Dr or to fill an Rx are braindead.
 

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Maybe these brain dead seniors should be taking a more active roll in their health care and start questioning their doctors and doing a little research on their own.

Not just seniors. Many health problems in old age( sorry JLM) are caused by not looking after your body when you are younger. Eating junk food contributes towards obesity, which in turn contributes to high blood pressure and diabetes. Add to that societies demand for instant fix to every problem and Big Pharma gets rich.

For the most part doctors have no clue about what happens when you mix drugs. They give you a pill so you can digest another pill. One of my aunts was on 11 different meds and when my wife looked them all up she found that several were not to be mixed and many had side effects worse than what they are supposed to cure. The end result was that we got her down to five pills.
 

JLM

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Those who can't look up a drug name or group of symptoms on-line or by phoning the provincial health advice hotline before they go to the Dr or to fill an Rx are braindead.

You have to be careful checking symptoms on line or in books as the first causes you are likely to read are an aneurism or cancer, which 999/1000 isn't the case and just scares the sh*t out of you. :smile:
 

petros

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That what the Healthcare Hotline is for. A second opinion before you go to see your Dr.

HealthLink BC

Anywhere in BC: 8-1-1
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HealthLink BC helps you learn about health topics, check your symptoms and find the health services and resources that you need for healthy living. Call 8-1-1 to consult with a nurse, pharmacist or dietitian or visit HealthLinkBC.ca for easy access to help you find the health services you need, closest to where you live.
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A "one stop" location to obtain information on both health and non-health related federal and provincial government programs and services for British Columbia seniors. The Line also provides B.C. residents with information about health services, the health care system and interpretation of a wide variety of health media releases, legislation, policies, programs and services. The line is accessible 8:30 a.m. – 4:30 p.m., Monday to Friday (excluding holidays). Translation services are available in 130 languages.
 

JLM

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Not just seniors. Many health problems in old age( sorry JLM) are caused by not looking after your body when you are younger. Eating junk food contributes towards obesity, which in turn contributes to high blood pressure and diabetes. Add to that societies demand for instant fix to every problem and Big Pharma gets rich.

For the most part doctors have no clue about what happens when you mix drugs. They give you a pill so you can digest another pill. One of my aunts was on 11 different meds and when my wife looked them all up she found that several were not to be mixed and many had side effects worse than what they are supposed to cure. The end result was that we got her down to five pills.

Your aunt's problem is exactly what is being addressed in the article, she is just one of thousands of seniors across Canada. You are also right on the money re high blood pressure and diabetes. As one doctor told me our life style contributes to 50% of our health bill.
 

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Excuse the repetition - my computer had a couple of brain dead minutes. :lol:

Sure blame the computer. It's probably using the cheat codes too isn't it? :p

It's simple, treat the symptom is the choice method in our system. There is a reason for that. A patient wants relief that correcting the lifestyle long term view isn't going to provide for years. Sure everyone should be perfect but, sadly, all the rest of you "people", :roll:, aren't. So what do you do? Sit and watch people deteriorate or treat the symptom and tell them to make the lifestyle changes they need to and deal with the root of the problem over the long term?

I know I would try and ease your suffering first.

Everyone knows they need to eat better than they are, get more exercise than they do but people also have a life that has demands on time, different capacities for both diet and exercise. Hardly makes them brain dead.

Now add to all of that, a doctor who is bombarded with sales reps from drug companies who push drugs like you wouldn't believe. If I offered to take you and your family to a sunny resort in South America, all expenses paid, just to spend one or two afternoons showing you the new drugs and research my company has been doing so that you will prescribe my product to your patients whom they will help with symptoms, would you take them up on it? Maybe not all would but certainly enough do.

So good luck with changing that and while your at it, just tell all the people int he third world to stop fighting, and grow their own food so that things get better for them.
 

JLM

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Sure blame the computer. It's probably using the cheat codes too isn't it? :p

It's simple, treat the symptom is the choice method in our system. There is a reason for that. A patient wants relief that correcting the lifestyle long term view isn't going to provide for years. Sure everyone should be perfect but, sadly, all the rest of you "people", :roll:, aren't. So what do you do? Sit and watch people deteriorate or treat the symptom and tell them to make the lifestyle changes they need to and deal with the root of the problem over the long term?

I know I would try and ease your suffering first.

Everyone knows they need to eat better than they are, get more exercise than they do but people also have a life that has demands on time, different capacities for both diet and exercise. Hardly makes them brain dead.

Now add to all of that, a doctor who is bombarded with sales reps from drug companies who push drugs like you wouldn't believe. If I offered to take you and your family to a sunny resort in South America, all expenses paid, just to spend one or two afternoons showing you the new drugs and research my company has been doing so that you will prescribe my product to your patients whom they will help with symptoms, would you take them up on it? Maybe not all would but certainly enough do.

So good luck with changing that and while your at it, just tell all the people int he third world to stop fighting, and grow their own food so that things get better for them.

Absolutely- you just have to find ways around the distractions. Everyone has 24 hours in a day- lots of times not enough to address both Health and wealth so you have to pick how much of each you are willing to settle for. I've always figured if you have your health you can address the other stuff another day.
 

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There has been a lot of talk about the possibility of extended days to address the modern problems of agenda compression. When will the government act. We need more hours now!
 

JLM

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There has been a lot of talk about the possibility of extended days to address the modern problems of agenda compression. When will the government act. We need more hours now!

The answer is to go to the metric clock- 10 hours to the day, 10 minutes to the hour and 10 seconds to the minute. Then you'd have scads of hours.