Funeral for Officer Sgt Ryan Russell - Some people are just plain Ignorant

[JBeee]

Toronto is joke.

That thought (the ignored screams of the dying lady) crossed my mind more than once while this so-called outpouring of `care and concern` was being splashed across tv`s nation wide.

I believe I caught a 30 sec snippet on CP24 the day after finding the frozen corpse then nary a word after that...perhaps for fear of revealing this hypocritical city for what it really is, a drug, bug and fag-infested sewer who`s politicians would suck off a horse if it meant keeping up with the Joneses.

 

[Avro]

Micheal Coren can be dramatic. I lost respect for him soon after he started on CFRB. I found myself nodding in agreement to his opinions. So much so I found I actually didn't agree with him as he was becoming gratuitous. He makes some good points but I feel he does it for his own monetary gain. You know, to appeall to the populous in a lowest common denominator way so he'll have an audience. That's his bread and butter.
I give his article a zero even though I do agree in part with what he says I find he is most likely wrong on most points here. I would say anyone that bothered to go downtown Toronto to attend this event did it in response to feeling of their heart.
To summarize. Coren is a dick. Maybe he has a good bash for the next fallen soldier too.

Yet no one gives a damn about the homeless.

 

[eh1eh]

Yet no one gives a damn about the homeless.

I'm not out there helping them are you!

 

[Avro]

I'm not out there helping them are you!

Yes, I am.

In my local community and my wife and I run a charity of our own.

 

[gerryh]

Yes, I am.

In my local community and my wife and I run a charity of our own.

bullshyte

 

[Goober]

Yes, I am.

In my local community and my wife and I run a charity of our own.

As did I for 3 years in Chatham NB - over 40 K in 3 years for the Sally Ann, St Vincent de Paul Society and the local Food Bank - At the end of the 1st year as we ran it during Dec, I sat down with the 3 of them and stated we have a certain amount of money left over. it is up to the 3 of you to decide as to how to split it up.

Now these were 3 organizations that had little communication / coordination with each other prior to that year.

 

[JBeee]

You and you`re type are the problem with this country. You `do-gooders` that go out of the way to do what your gov. should be looking into with regards to it`s population...yet never questioning it`s obvious lack of concern. Billions to throw away on the War Machine and other non-sensical excuses but a devil to deal with on local matters.

How much each DId you guys profit from the over-loaded kitty?

As did I for 3 years in Chatham NB - over 40 K in 3 years for the Sally Ann, St Vincent de Paul Society and the local Food Bank - At the end of the 1st year as we ran it during Dec, I sat down with the 3 of them and stated we have a certain amount of money left over. it is up to the 3 of you to decide as to how to split it up.

Now these were 3 organizations that had little communication / coordination with each other prior to that year.

 

[Goober]

You and you`re type are the problem with this country. You `do-gooders` that go out of the way to do what your gov. should be looking into with regards to it`s population...yet never questioning it`s obvious lack of concern. Billions to throw away on the War Machine and other non-sensical excuses but a devil to deal with on local matters.

How much each DId you guys profit from the over-loaded kitty?

I noted your concern - oops comtempt - your word - "faggot"
So please do not preach to me.

 

[JBeee]

Sorry if your offended Goober....let me guess, your a closet gay-rights activist as well?

I said `fag` infested....not faggot.

Light me Goober!!lol

I noted your concern - oops comtempt - your word - "faggot"
So please do not preach to me.

 

[Goober]

Sorry if your offended Goober....let me guess, your a closet gay-rights activist as well?

I said `fag` infested....not faggot.

Light me Goober!!lol

You are the type that believes that a problem is always for someone else to look after - Just another trait you display - Self centered, no compassion along with, that is not my problem, so fuk em.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

How did I get sucked into that BS?

I have never denigrated anyone's chosen profession. I do not look down on garbage men. One of my close friends, Matty, is a jumper. My wife ran a recycling depot for years. Both see their job as vital, but both still place a heavy helping of respect on those that serve.

You didn't get sucked into anything Bear. I never denigrated garbage men either. I just said that it is not the same as being a cop. I was a garbage man myself once and it is bloody hard job. That's just Cannuck's take on things.

 

[shadowshiv]

“That's 6 months of training after they complete a College course pertaining to. Rarely is anyone recruited off the street and into the ranks of Cadets, without having already completed said College course.”

Do you have proof of that? It’s funny that my older brother is on officer that only has a high school diploma. We just happened to know somebody. Common buddy, look around you. Do doctor associations allow anybody with a high school diploma to get in? Nooooo, strict requirements are in place.

“Then by all means, refrain from calling upon the Police, in a time of need.”

Hahah I pay tax dollars for them to “Serve and Protect”...Not to pay for their funerals. It’s fine though...Whenever a teacher dies, doctor, counsellor...better yet, anybody in the social sector....Let’s have all tax payers pay for their funeral arrangements and fly in people all over the country to pay respect to their fallen comrade. Agreed? Just remember, you are playing with fire with a comment like that... By all means, don’t go to a doctor when ill....Don’t send your kids to school...etc Oh yeah, I’m waiting for you and Goober to donate money to the police department...pay for my share of the taxes that went into the funeral...it’s the least you could do for an ignorant soul that is lost...Then post the PDF receipt on here too...would ya please???

At Goober:
You’re still here??? Do you have the good eye or does CDN Bear? Who’s leading who?

Buddy, no crap that the RNC is a police association. Where does ALL police money ultimately come from? Now be gone...
In case the hamster up there begins to spin a little faster...your next point might be...”It is a union, they have made investments, kind of like teachers, and are now using the profit to pay for police funerals.”
My rebuttal would then be, “Goober you simpleton, all the money that was initially used to invest and continues to fund those investments comes from the taxpayers anyways! Now be gone...Furthermore, majority of the money earned in social service investments through their respective unions is used to help create a safety net in private retirement funds...”
Yes the money comes from an officer’s cheque, but we pay for those cheques!!! Was that seriously your best point besides calling me simple??? I see that this forum gives out its credentials, such as Goobers “Certified and with papers”, as easy as the police get their badges...lmfao...You’re shameful....I now exit respectfully from this forum and will allow you ignorant police state lovers to continue to mind touch each other...Now I’m gone! Have the satisfaction of knowing that I will not read your response as it will be as ignorant as your first....Account now deleted...Thank you!!!!!!!
P.S. As a person that works with your children everyday, sleep well at night knowing that I’m the one teaching them After all, I CHOOSE to be in this field Would you have preferred teaching conscription???

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

One more thing. An account is deleted when WE say it is, not you. You can take your ball and go home, that is fine. But your posts will remain here for everyone to see.

I wonder what your older brother, who you say is a police officer, would think about your hatred for police funerals. I honestly hopes this never happens, but would you change your tune if something had happened to him in the line of duty? Would it be a waste of everyone's time then?

Police and military are one big family. When one falls, they ALL grieve.

 

[Mowich]

Grief or glamour?

Too many teary-eyed folks at cop’s funeral just wanted to be on TV
By MICHAEL COREN, QMI Agency

The funeral of police Sgt. Ryan Russell was held in Toronto this week, attended by 12,500 police officers and other first responders, and thousands of ordinary members of the public.
People who had never met the 35-year-old officer cried in front of journalists and explained why they made journeys of sometimes more than two hours just to see the poor man’s casket.
They told stories, often strangely tenuous, of how they felt connected to the tragedy because of some relative of a relative who was once a cop, or something equally contrived. The media covered the day in enormous, sometimes surreal detail, partly because radio stations and newspapers that don’t are routinely accused of police-bashing.
Just the day before the funeral of Sgt. Russell, a 66-year-old woman died from hypothermia on the streets of this same, allegedly caring city. She was suffering from dementia and had walked out of her home in the middle of the night in freezing conditions.
Once her body experienced the agonizing weather, the confused, broken lady began to scream for help and claw at a nearby car door when she fell over. Some people admitted to hearing her, perhaps even seeing her, but they did not bother to help.
So forgive my skepticism when I argue that Toronto, just like any other city or town in this country, is not compassionate at all, but likes nothing more than soaking itself in the comforting waters of official mourning. Morbid and often misplaced grief has become the ersatz religion of modern times. Not just in Canada, but throughout North America and Europe. The western world has caught neurosis.
We witnessed this when the self-indulgent Princess Diana died, see it when a child is abducted and murdered. The teddy bears, enormous cards and kids dragged by their parents to crime scenes are as plentiful as confetti at a wedding, and just as trivial. Hardly any such display though when, for example, four working men died on Christmas Eve in 2009 falling from a scaffold. Or when homeless people are beaten to death for fun.
I intend no disrespect to a fallen police officer, and I appreciate that he symbolizes not just the police, but the line between our safety and criminal chaos. I also understand why so many other cops would want to attend. But for the life of me, I cannot and will not believe that most of the spectators were motivated by genuine concern.
They wanted to be part of a happening, with a fair chance they would appear somewhere on a 24-hour TV news station and they could tell their friends and neighbours how caring and involved they are. This is vicarious thrill-seeking, feeling soft and cosy inside because it’s not happening to you, but you can pretend to feel the pain.
Good Lord, whatever happened to the dignity of private grief, surrounded by family, authentic friends, religious community and those who love you rather than love the moment?
Oh, by the way, January is Alzheimer Awareness Month. But being “aware” won’t help that poor lady who froze to death, and probably won’t get you a moment of fame on television.


Bingo!

I find myself in agreement with some of Coren's comments. Mainly, I agree that the upswing in the outpouring of public emotion in the last decade or so found me questioning the authenticity of all those mourners. I too think that many of these people are nothing more than what I call, 'mourning groupies.' Myself, I can't see the draw.

My original post about the death of Sgt Ryan Russell was prompted more by the fact that he was an exemplary young man who truly contributed in every way he could to the betterment of our society than by the fact that he was a police officer. However, had he not been a member of the Toronto Police Force and had he not died in the line of duty, he would never have come to my attention. Ryan Russell was an outstanding member of the Canadian community whose contributions to our society are well-numbered. His loss is Canada's loss no more or less than any other person who lives mirrored all that we see of the good in our country.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Mowich I found your final comments well chosen.

 

[Mowich]

Mowich I found your final comments well chosen.

Retired_Can_Soldier - I thank you.

 

[Goober]

I find myself in agreement with some of Coren's comments. Mainly, I agree that the upswing in the outpouring of public emotion in the last decade or so found me questioning the authenticity of all those mourners. I too think that many of these people are nothing more than what I call, 'mourning groupies.' Myself, I can't see the draw.
My Point - This has been commented upon by many physiologists, sociologists, commontators, opinions of many writers. etc. Witness Dianna - the perfect princess - Along with many other whee people go to the extreme to get on the mourning bandwagon


My original post about the death of Sgt Ryan Russell was prompted more by the fact that he was an exemplary young man who truly contributed in every way he could to the betterment of our society than by the fact that he was a police officer. However, had he not been a member of the Toronto Police Force and had he not died in the line of duty, he would never have come to my attention. Ryan Russell was an outstanding member of the Canadian community whose contributions to our society are well-numbered. His loss is Canada's loss no more or less than any other person who lives mirrored all that we see of the good in our country.

Next Point - Well stated - Remember the Mayerthorpe 4 - The country was stunned - and then came the stories of how this one man terrorized many. Even RCMP officers were nervous, with one having a loaded handgun at the ready when at home. It also exposed the problems with the judicial system in this country. And little has changed. 4 young men died.

But the grief was real. 4 Officers murdered for doing what we expect them to do. Adhere to their Profeesion.

 

[CDNBear]

Yes, I am.

In my local community and my wife and I run a charity of our own.

I'd like to contribute to your cause.

I take my hat off to you. I guess with all that free time you have, since being laid off at GM, you've put it to good use. I just hope you're not collecting EI while doing this. I don't think the tax payers should be paying you while for charity work.

Please forward the details, ie; the administrations details, cost and overhead, how much of my money will actually reach the needy, your charitable status registration, and where to make my donation. I'll make sure to donate.

You didn't get sucked into anything Bear. I never denigrated garbage men either. I just said that it is not the same as being a cop. I was a garbage man myself once and it is bloody hard job. That's just Cannuck's take on things.

My bad.

 

[Avro]

Wow, just when you think it can't get any sillier.

Yep, better than the average guy who dies on the job.

What a joke, what's next? Ryan Russell day.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Anyone who puts on a uniform risking their lives everyday deserves respect in life and in death..

 

[Avro]

Anyone who puts on a uniform risking their lives everyday deserves respect in life and in death..

A freind of mine was killed 5 years ago on a construction site....is he less of a person?

Is there not risk to people such as this as well?

Do they not proivide us with a needed service?

When do we name a park after him?

When does he get a parade?

When does he get headlines?

Never, he's just a little less important than the fallen copper.