Further Explanations for Ancient Flood Myth

petros

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Arround 10,800 BC they say, lots of gravel banks were made in S. A. The flood was global. The new world has lots of legend. Flood legends circle the planet just like the woter did. So do survivor stories.History becomes myth. IMO
I like the Incan myth were they hid in the caves at Urcos Peru from the chaos of our galaxy's core going Seyfert.
 

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The flood was global.
Been reading up on Velikovsky again? There has been no global flood during humanity's time here, the signs it would have left on the planet's surface simply aren't present. Certainly there have been localized disastrous floods, but they're not synchronized into a single global event, they're scattered throughout geological time.

I can't remember what seyfert means or the Incan story only that everyone in those days in south america had some rough weather.
A Seyfert galaxy is one with an unusually active core that generates intense radiation across a broad spectrum. A few percent of the galaxies we can see are classified as Seyferts. Our galaxy is not currently a Seyfert, and there's no evidence that it has been recently, Seyfert status appears to be a stage early in the history of a galaxy when a black hole at the core is eating up all the gas and dust and stars nearby. It may also be a pulsed stage that comes and goes several times as a galaxy evolves, but if the core of our galaxy went Seyfert around 10,000 years ago, I think it probably still would be. Major cosmological events like that rarely happen on so short a time scale. I've seen calculations that suggest a Seyfert core in our galaxy would increase the radiation flux earth receives by about 2%, which certainly would be enough to affect weather patterns, but not on the scale of a global flood.
 

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Arround 10,800 BC they say, lots of gravel banks were made in S. A. The flood was global. The new world has lots of legend. Flood legends circle the planet just like the woter did. So do survivor stories.History becomes myth. IMO

Where did all the extra water come from? Ice doesn't melt that quickly. :lol:
 

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Post #47 is truly an anomaly.

We are used to see "good" forces collide, i.e. Christianity vs Islam, Capitalism vs Socialism,
Nazism vs Communism, Catholicism vs Calvinism but this is the first time in history we see "SINISTER" forces, i.e. Bar and Dexter collide.

I'd hate to predict the winner.
 

Dexter Sinister

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The winners are Bar and me, because I was able to share with him some information he didn't have. The loser is the guy dumb enough to think that's a collision and hopes to see a scrap develop out of it.
 

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Flood waters are often very turbid and violent, which could kill fish and other marine organisms by beating them up or choking them with silt.
This is true of local flooding but since there was no global flood, the mass extinction of so many species cannot be attributed to inundation. I think Bar was referring to extinction not just death of fish.
 

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Yeah, on re-reading Bar's post I have to agree with that. Creationists might also argue that a global flood would have caused large changes in temperature and salinity too, which would do a lot of damage to marine organisms, but I haven't seen anything that intelligent from them. Besides, the record shows at least five major extinction events separated by tens of millions, sometimes hundreds of millions, of years. But I suppose someone who believes the planet is only 6 to 10 thousand years old won't be impressed by the facts.
 
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IF the world were 6000 years old and IF all the fossilized life and former life that comprises all the world's limestone were alive in that 6000 year period we'd be buried alive in life.
 

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Been reading up on Velikovsky again? There has been no global flood during humanity's time here, the signs it would have left on the planet's surface simply aren't present. Certainly there have been localized disastrous floods, but they're not synchronized into a single global event, they're scattered throughout geological time.

A Seyfert galaxy is one with an unusually active core that generates intense radiation across a broad spectrum. A few percent of the galaxies we can see are classified as Seyferts. Our galaxy is not currently a Seyfert, and there's no evidence that it has been recently, Seyfert status appears to be a stage early in the history of a galaxy when a black hole at the core is eating up all the gas and dust and stars nearby. It may also be a pulsed stage that comes and goes several times as a galaxy evolves, but if the core of our galaxy went Seyfert around 10,000 years ago, I think it probably still would be. Major cosmological events like that rarely happen on so short a time scale. I've seen calculations that suggest a Seyfert core in our galaxy would increase the radiation flux earth receives by about 2%, which certainly would be enough to affect weather patterns, but not on the scale of a global flood.

Excuse me Dexter but that explanation is entirely wrong. Redshift Rosetta Stone

Where did all the extra water come from? Ice doesn't melt that quickly. :lol:

There is already enough water already here to sweep the planets surface quite nicely ain't there?
 

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Excuse me Dexter but that explanation is entirely wrong. Redshift Rosetta Stone



There is already enough water already here to sweep the planets surface quite nicely ain't there?

That depends, certainly not like Biblical floods- if we were to have a protracted global warming spell, the ocean level would rise several milimetres each year. If all the ice in the world were to melt the ocean may rise 10'.
 

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The chosen were agents of the gods,selected from the most pliant of the hybredized issue of forbidden union. Overseers of the mines and machinery, ad hoc collectors of the gods taxes most importantly in the form of gold. Selected from the most pliant of the hybredized issue of forbidden union. They were "based/created" from local materials as the story goes. All that was required was a few more brain cells to operate the picks and shovels. A new covenant was struck and the lesser breatheren of the day was relieved of the tedium of manual labour by way of a strike/walk out, if you can believe it.

That depends, certainly not like Biblical floods- if we were to have a protracted global warming spell, the ocean level would rise several milimetres each year. If all the ice in the world were to melt the ocean may rise 10'.

No warming spell is required to get the ocean to sweep the planet, all that's needed is a pole shift for instance.
 
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darkbeaver

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Your ignorance is excused. Nothing at that silly thunderbolts.info site is to be taken seriously, nobody there knows any real physics.

That's never happened either.

Thankyou for the excuse. I know the remnants of your heart are close to the right place. However, as regards ignorance, it is written, None may draw the sea down with cupped hands. Preposteroso August 5th 69BC

PS black holes suck
 

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DB, I'll take you seriously when you show the quantitative physics of the electric current you believe powers the sun and explain why it doesn't derange compasses on earth, and why the solar wind is electrically neutral, and why all-sky maps of the microwave background do not show any sign of the gigantic magnetic fields that would have to exist if your "the universe is electric" claim is correct. You once said you could and would, then chickened out and resorted to the usual tongue in cheek nonsense of your previous two posts here and citing more nonsense from your two favourite quack science sites. Nobody there does physics, they just talk about physics, without any real understanding.