BC NDP - A leader Lost and looking for number 3

[Goober]

Today Carole James received the back of the majority of the 135 members allowed to vote. Nice show if you really believe in Fairy tales.

She has already lost 2 elections to the Liberals.

The Liberals must be laughing all the way towards the next election.

B.C. NDP leader avoids leadership contest

Before the New Democratic Party’s provincial council, Carole James took 84% of delegates support, as they voted not to schedule a leadership convention and challenge her stewardship.
Earlier in the day Ms. James had called on members of her party’s council to unite behind her during the crucial vote.
“Now is the time for us to unite in our resolve and to move forward on behalf of those people we serve,” Ms. James told the delegates at a meeting of the provincial council in Victoria.


B.C. NDP leader declares infighting over, wins confidence of party - The Globe and Mail

A scarf-less Nicholas Simons (Powell River-Sunshine Coast) refused to say if he supports Ms. James. “I don’t want to be talking about that issue right now. A healthy discussion is taking place in there.” And Harry Lali (Fraser-Nicola) likewise ducked questions. “You can interpret it any way you want but I have no comment.”
Ms. James took over as party leader seven years ago, after the B.C. NDP had been almost eliminated in the 2001 provincial election.
Although she has rebuilt the party with her moderate, centrist platform, she has faced internal grumbling since last year’s election, when the party was again shut out by voters.
That internal dissent erupted into the open six weeks ago when Ms. James fired MLA Bob Simpson from caucus for questioning her leadership.
Until Friday, Ms. James played down the rebellion, but that ended when Katrine Conroy, flanked by three other MLAs, called a news conference to announce she is quitting as the party whip, saying she could no longer maintain unity in caucus.

 

[Cliffy]

That is too bad I was hoping for new leadership. Carole is a lack luster leader and will lose the next election to old Bobblehead who looks like he'll take over from Gordo. I heard a rumor that Dorky would run for leader of the NDPeep but I guess not. Oh well, more of the same ol' same ol' Social Discredit sell off of the province.

 

[Goober]

That is too bad I was hoping for new leadership. Carole is a lack luster leader and will lose the next election to old Bobblehead who looks like he'll take over from Gordo. I heard a rumor that Dorky would run for leader of the NDPeep but I guess not. Oh well, more of the same ol' same ol' Social Discredit sell off of the province.

What cost Gordo was the combined HST - It is business and consume friendly - Easir for business to have 1 tax - better productivity - lower costs - Consumer - more you buy - more you pay - e
Same with the GST when the brought that in - It helped Canadian Business that as competing with products, imported that did not pay these taxes.

1 Tax - Simple and effective to administer. - It also creates job over the long term - BC Jobs. No Jobs in other places.

 

[Cliffy]

What cost Gordo was the combined HST - It is business and consume friendly - Easir for business to have 1 tax - better productivity - lower costs - Consumer - more you buy - more you pay - e
Same with the GST when the brought that in - It helped Canadian Business that as competing with products, imported that did not pay these taxes.

1 Tax - Simple and effective to administer. - It also creates job over the long term - BC Jobs. No Jobs in other places.

From personal experience and everybody that I talk to, the HST has driven the cost of everything up.
But I was referring to stuff like IPPs where Gordo has put just about every creek in BC on the chopping block, which will totally destroy our inland fishery and drive hydro costs through the ceiling. We won't get into the Olympic costs which our grand children will be paying for.

 

[bill barilko]

James is a two time loser with nothing going for her except here gender-the NDP are plain stupid to keep the old war horse around.

 

[JLM]

That is too bad I was hoping for new leadership. Carole is a lack luster leader and will lose the next election to old Bobblehead who looks like he'll take over from Gordo. I heard a rumor that Dorky would run for leader of the NDPeep but I guess not. Oh well, more of the same ol' same ol' Social Discredit sell off of the province.

Do I detect a little cynicism?

 

[Cliffy]

Do I detect a little cynicism?

And you are not? This circus is getting really tired. BC politics is a joke. It s a sad reflection that all we have been able to come up with for the past ten years is Gordo and his band of merry Social Discredit thieves. My gawd, is there no intelligent people willing to take on the job?

 

[JLM]

And you are not? This circus is getting really tired. BC politics is a joke. It s a sad reflection that all we have been able to come up with for the past ten years is Gordo and his band of merry Social Discredit thieves. My gawd, is there no intelligent people willing to take on the job?

Intelligent people wouldn't take the job. :lol:

 

[Cliffy]

Intelligent people wouldn't take the job. :lol:

Even if they did, they would never be allowed to get past the starting gate.

 

[JLM]

Even if they did, they would never be allowed to get past the starting gate.

Yep, every organization has it's unofficial officials and if you don't do what you're told you could end up in a deep pond in cement shoes. :lol:

 

[taxslave]

I was sort of hopping that the recently removed from both parties might form a new centralist party that actually has taxpayers best interests at heart. By definition that lets socialists out as well as many on the extreme right.

 

[Kreskin]

I hope the Conservative party can come to life in this province.

 

[Goober]

I hope the Conservative party can come to life in this province.

Looks like their are more MLA's coming out from the Cone of Silence that was imposed. Now how will she deal with this. Can't boot them all out of Caucus now can she. i see a leadership race no later than Jun. i believe they go to the pols in Oct according to BC election law

Carole James facing new leadership challenge - The Globe and Mail


HHMM - Why in the good old Stalin days, a Good Purge was quite effective.

I smell a good Body Purge coming and the shxt gonna fly. Pun intended.

B.C. New Democratic Party leader Carole James is facing a renewed challenge to her leadership, with longtime NDP MLA Jenny Kwan calling for a leadership contest to renew the party.
“It's time for a change,” Ms. Kwan told reporters on Tuesday.
Norm Macdonald, who recently quit as the NDP's caucus chair, echoed Ms. Kwan's demand for a leadership race.

 

[JLM]

I don't see Carole James as an effective leader for the N.D.P. but I think she has the party and the people of British Columbia at heart - Jenny Kwan is more of a mercenary I think (or maybe a 5 letter word starting with "B") :smile:

 

[Goober]

I don't see Carole James as an effective leader for the N.D.P. but I think she has the party and the people of British Columbia at heart - Jenny Kwan is more of a mercenary I think (or maybe a 5 letter word starting with "B") :smile:

Well you live there and would be more familiar with the politics than those like myself that do not.

 

[Trotz]

Technically, no political party has an "effective leadership" - we haven't seen once since W.A.C. Bennett!

Will James Carole be that kind of leader? Certainty not. But I wouldn't suggest that she has been a failure! She has been the only one with the courage to step up to the internationalist faction within the BC-NDP (i.e. Glen Clark, Ujjal Dosanjh, et al) and returned NDP to its original platform of regional socialism... no doubt the reason the NDP has escaped being a fringe party as it had been in the early 2000s.

Sure, James Carole has internal dissent but mainly from the goons I mentioned and honestly, if its such a big deal to them, than last I heard the Marxist-Leninist party of British Columbia has many positions available...

 

[Colpy]

Has anybody noticed that the NDP, provincially and federally, are chock-full of idiots with the most moronic ideals....

They are the comic relief of Canadian politics.......

NDP in B.C. face gender conundrum

 

[JLM]

Has anybody noticed that the NDP, provincially and federally, are chock-full of idiots with the most moronic ideals....

They are the comic relief of Canadian politics.......

NDP in B.C. face gender conundrum

Thirty years ago I would never have thunk it- now I'm open to suggestions. :smile:

 

[Colpy]

Thirty years ago I would never have thunk it- now I'm open to suggestions. :smile:

Yep.....thirty-five years ago the NDP had something to say.........before they abandoned their rural roots and the common working man to become the political playground of ivory-tower academics without a lick of common sense, BIG organized labour.......and every addled dope-smoking hippy wannabee in the country.

David Lewis should be spinning in his grave.

To say nothing of Tommy Douglas.

 

[YukonJack]

The NDP lost all credibilty when they hooked up with unions.

Unions are the self-proclaimed aristocracy of the working class without a shred of pedigree.