Khadr - Pleads Guilty to Terror Charges

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What if Khadr had have grenaded a hired guy from Blackwater or some slipshod jackass op like that? I doubt the merc would have had a Afghani working visa or any silly **** like that. How would that be tackled?
Those boys would have had the sense to pop one through his skull then and there.

Problem solved.
 

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Those boys would have had the sense to pop one through his skull then and there.

Problem solved.

Some points to consider

How old was he when he father started indoctrinating him? 8, 10 - maybe from birth -

How old was he when he killed the Soldier

Lastly - Is our anger not directed in the right way -
The Khadr Family that supports Jihad yet the Govt cannot or will not do anything.

Just some points to consider
 

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I'm beginning to think there's something a little fishy going on here. Sounds to me like he's changed his plea because he's convinced that arrerting his innocense is going to ensure he rots in prison whereas if he pleads guilty he has a chance of getting out in another 10 or 15 years. Maybe a lot of bullsh*t going on here. One thing for sure a whole "murder" of lawyers are going to get rich.
 

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I'm beginning to think there's something a little fishy going on here. Sounds to me like he's changed his plea because he's convinced that arrerting his innocense is going to ensure he rots in prison whereas if he pleads guilty he has a chance of getting out in another 10 or 15 years. Maybe a lot of bullsh*t going on here. One thing for sure a whole "murder" of lawyers are going to get rich.
He will be tranferred within a year or so the Canada then possibly a few more years and out on parole.

Mentally he must be screwed - He will need a lot of help.
 

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Omar Khadr, the only Canadian, only child soldier and only Guantanamo Bay detainee charged with battlefield homicide in the killing a U.S. soldier, pleaded guilty to all terrorism and murder charges on Monday.
“Yes” said Mr. Khadr, when Army Col Patrick Parrish, the military judge asked him if he understood what he was doing.

He agreed, for instance, that he was an "alien, unprivileged, enemy belligerent," unqualified therefore to shoot back or engage in combat hostilities with U.S. or other coalition forces. He said he understood he was guilty of "murder in violation of the laws of war" and that he was a member of al-Qeada.
Now 24, Mr. Khadr was only 15 when he was gravely wounded by a U.S. air strike in Afghanistan. He has been in U.S. prisons ever since – more than one-third of his life.
“You should only do this if you truly believe it is in your best interests,” Col. Parrish told Mr. Khadr.
"Yes,” he replied again, his voice clear and direct in the hushed courtroom.


Omar Khadr pleads guilty to all terrorism charges - The Globe and Mail

The sentence was oddly worded.

No more than a year in Gitmo.

No more than 8 years total........

I think you will see Omar walking the streets of Toronto MUCH sooner than you think.
 

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The sentence was oddly worded.

No more than a year in Gitmo.

No more than 8 years total........

I think you will see Omar walking the streets of Toronto MUCH sooner than you think.

Next week would be about right.
 

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The sentence was oddly worded.

No more than a year in Gitmo.

No more than 8 years total........

I think you will see Omar walking the streets of Toronto MUCH sooner than you think.

No sooner did I post that than I found this:

OTTAWA — Omar Khadr would be facing release from prison after three or four years, and possibly sooner, if he returns to Canada to serve the majority of a U.S.-imposed sentence after pleading guilty to murdering an American army medic in Afghanistan, legal experts predicted Monday.
Read more: NP Story
 

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The opium/heroin angle is interesting. I'm a little confused though, why would the CIA/US gvt go into Afghanistan and spend 100's of billions to sell 100's of million on drugs... The numbers don't add up.
There are other reasons of course, pipelines, strategic placement next to Russia, but most important, the all mighty dollar - profits from war. How are Haliburton shares doing?
 

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You should read the article in the Globe today on the testimony of a psychiatrist who did an in depth psychological evaluation of Khadr. The portrayal is of a vicious little thug, 'marinated' in radical jihad.

His time in Guantanamo, comprising most of his late adolescence and early adulthood, where he was a 'rock star' amongst other detainees, entrenched and further radicalized, rather than moderated, his fanaticism.

He cemented his position by taunting and threatening guards, including an Black female, who he termed a 'wh(o)re, bitch and slave'. His mother extolled suicide bombers from his earliest childhood, encouraging him to become an Islamic martyr to collect his 72 virgins in the afterlife.

When returned to Canada in about a year, which has no programs for deradicalization, at 24 years of age, and with the liklihood he will be released almost immediately, he will be like a plague bascillus, with the charisma of complete commitment to his cause, amongst other impressionable young Islamic males.

Canada's justice system has no response or experience at present for individuals like Khadr, intent on suicide in the most spectacular and murderous of circumstances.
 
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You should read the article in the Globe today on the testimony of a psychiatrist who did an in depth psychological evaluation of Khadr. The portrayal is of a viscious little thug, 'marinated' in radical jihad.

His time in Guantanamo, comprising most of his late adolescence and early adulthood, where he was a 'rock star' amongst other detainees, entrenched and further radicalized rather than moderated his fanaticism.

He cemented his position by taunting and threatening guards, including an Black female, who he termed a 'wh(o)re, bitch and slave'. His mother extolled suicide bombers from his earliest childhood, encouraging him to become an Islamic martyr to collect his 72 virgins in the afterlife.

When returned to Canada, which has no programs for deradicalization, at 24 years of age, and with the liklihood he will be released almost immediately, he will be like a plague bascillus amongst other impressionable young Islamic males.

Canada's justice system has no response or experience at present for individuals like Khadr, intent on suicide in the most spectucular and murderous of circumstances, for his cause.


It's only a matter of time before Omar gets nicked by the authorities for some terrorism related event. No doubt that all of the apologists will be wringing their hands in angst and blaming Canada for not raising this poor child appropriately... That seems to be the typical apologist response; blame anyone but Omar.
 

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You should read the article in the Globe today on the testimony of a psychiatrist who did an in depth psychological evaluation of Khadr. The portrayal is of a viscious little thug, 'marinated' in radical jihad.

A psychiatrist who does a psychological evaluation is an oxymoron. Everyone knows psychiatrists are the poor man's psychologist - passing off subjective assertions as some clear indication of behavior. Clearly this guy also had some ulterior motives when he started comparing Khadr to Castro. No, this little Freud was bought and paid for - handsomely.

Get a real professional in there to do an assessment instead of these quacks.
 

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A psychiatrist who does a psychological evaluation is an oxymoron. Everyone knows psychiatrists are the poor man's psychologist - passing off subjective assertions as some clear indication of behavior. Clearly this guy also had some ulterior motives when he started comparing Khadr to Castro. No, this little Freud was bought and paid for - handsomely.


I think you have it backwards. Psychiatrists are the top of the heap in terms of the mental health industry. They are MD's that have specialized, psychologists are not.
 

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I've spent a couple of years worrying about cousins deployed in Iraq so I find it hard to sympathize with Mr. Khadr, that being said, I'm just wondering why he doesn't come under the protection of the child soldier conventions, you can hardly claim 15 year olds with AKs killing their parents and others in Africa come under any sort of regular soldier classification, how is Afghanistan any different?
 

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Africans can kill each other all day,not much of an uproar,it seems the americans take it personally.Khadr should have plead self defence.
 

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GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba – A former teenage al-Qaida fighter was sentenced Sunday to eight more years in custody under the terms of a [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]plea [COLOR=#366388 !important]agreement[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] unsealed after a military sentencing jury said he should serve 40 years for war crimes.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101031/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_war_crimes

Africans can kill each other all day,not much of an uproar,it seems the americans take it personally.Khadr should have plead self defence.

African, European, Asians pretty much everybody kills everybody. Khadr got off easy wonder why?
 

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GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba – A former teenage al-Qaida fighter was sentenced Sunday to eight more years in custody under the terms of a [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]plea [COLOR=#366388 !important]agreement[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] unsealed after a military sentencing jury said he should serve 40 years for war crimes.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101031/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_war_crimes



African, European, Asians pretty much everybody kills everybody. Khadr got off easy wonder why?

Khadr was like any child, brainwashed by his family and I include the Mother, the siblings and the grandparents - those that emigrated here should be freaking deported - Born here they are Canadian. Child soldiers in Africa have committed worse yet Khadr is held out as an example of how screwed the US is when it comes to a 15 year old - There is no excuse for it except pure unadulterated hatred and persecution. Same as enforcing the death penalty for those that are mentally challenged - the Khadr case cause more harm to the US reputation as vengefull by their actions.
 

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The trial was theatre for the American public.
The Roman Emperors relied on Theater as the end of Empire approached. They did not act on the corruption and numerous casue and hatred caused by their policies even within Italy by refusing to make all Italian Roman Citizens.- They had a civil war - Hopefully the US does better. Other wise we can all be working for China, then India. not my idea of a dream world. I would say that you agree?.Yes?????