Calgary to adopt Sharia law.

Ariadne

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I paid attention only because there was nothing good on TV.
Perhaps you could call that not paying attention, but I don't think so.
None of the candidates were worth anything.

If you had encountered The Corporation, you would know what I meant when I said that Bronconier selected his follower.
 
damngrumpy

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Where do people come up with this stuff? Do people realize the mayor has no authority
to implement Sharia Law even if he wanted to. Some person gets elected to office who is
different and right away everyone panics. I have never heard anyone get tied up in knots
when a Jewish person, or a Baptist, or Catholic gets elected. A Muslim huh? I am surprised,
Calgary? Someone said he would be elected by a bunch of Liberals. In Calgary, I thought
there was only about five Liberals in the whole city.
I don't care what he is, as long as he is good at running the city, as long as he lives up to the
oath of office.
 
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Chiliagon

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Avro said:
CALGARY—Cowtown has a new mayor.
He’s young, funny, educated, a visible minority and a Muslim.

Naheed Nenshi was still basking Tuesday in his somewhat unexpected election victory the night before.
And while much was being made of Nenshi being what’s believed to be the first Muslim mayor in a major Canadian city, experts, supporters and even leaders in Calgary’s Muslim community were playing down the role Nenshi’s faith played in his election.

“I think it’s an overblown situation,” said Calgary Imam Syed Soharwardy, the founder of the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada.
“He’s a Muslim. Yes, well so what? Why does it have to be identified that we have a Muslim mayor? I think the most important thing is we have a new person who has been elected by Calgarians.”

Full story

Have fun with that Calgary.
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Wow Avro, are you ever an Ignorant Jerk!

You are showing us how you really are lacking some education in this field before you begin to speak!

ok, so you say that all muslims are trouble hey?

ok then..

so you're telling ME that Muhammed Ali, one of the greatest boxers of all time and humanitarians of the last 100 years, who is a practising Muslim and the most recognized person on the face of the Earth... that HE's Dangerous too??

ARE YOU F'N SERIOUS?

you truly need to get your facts straightened out before you go bad mouthing a religious group!

FACT: It's Not Muslims that are dangerous!!

it's the radicalists that use that faith as their excuse to use violence and terrorism. they are NOT true muslims.

TRUE Muslim faith does NOT endorse and encourage Violence of ANY KIND.

you really should Shut up! because you're really looking extremely Ignorant, Small Minded and sound like an uneducated Fool!

My opinion of you has really dropped a tonne since I read this..

you should be ashamed of yourself!!
 
Praxius

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Chili, you might want to think over how you write up your post next time. While I agree with much of what you say, you point could have been made without the personal insults, while still maintaining a level of insult as a whole. (The Art of Posting so to speak)

Now I'm guessing you'll get an infraction or warning from responding to an obvious troll-post I assume was made deliberately to rile up members in here.
 
Colpy

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Chiliagon said:
Wow Avro, are you ever an Ignorant Jerk!

You are showing us how you really are lacking some education in this field before you begin to speak!

ok, so you say that all muslims are trouble hey?

ok then..

so you're telling ME that Muhammed Ali, one of the greatest boxers of all time and humanitarians of the last 100 years, who is a practising Muslim and the most recognized person on the face of the Earth... that HE's Dangerous too??

ARE YOU F'N SERIOUS?

you truly need to get your facts straightened out before you go bad mouthing a religious group!

FACT: It's Not Muslims that are dangerous!!

it's the radicalists that use that faith as their excuse to use violence and terrorism. they are NOT true muslims.

TRUE Muslim faith does NOT endorse and encourage Violence of ANY KIND.

you really should Shut up! because you're really looking extremely Ignorant, Small Minded and sound like an uneducated Fool!

My opinion of you has really dropped a tonne since I read this..

you should be ashamed of yourself!!
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Uh-huh

I have NO problem with the mayor of Calgary, who is completely assimilated and has adopted as his own the basic principles of western democracy. As far as I know. :)

However, Islam is NOT the religion of peace, FAR from it.....

The Qur’an Says that People of Other Religions
are to be Violently Punished in This World

Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Qur'an is devoted to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)

Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73)

Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:

…He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33:34)

All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:

And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)

Those who resist Islam will be humiliated:

Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be among those most humiliated. (58:20 - The context for this verse is the eviction of the Jewish tribes of Medina and the confiscation of their wealth, land, and children by Muhammad).

Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah:

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah… (8:39 – “Persecution” in this context means resistance to Islam – defined in the prior verse as an unwillingness to believe (see verse 38). This passage was “revealed” following a battle that Muhammad deliberately provoked. Verse 2:193 essentially says the same thing and was also “revealed” at a time when the Muslims were not under physical attack).

Those with "diseased hearts" - which include Christians and Jews according to 5:52 - are to be "seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter" (33:60-62) along with "hypocrites" (Muslims who are judged not to be true believers by their associations with unbelievers or their unwillingness to engage in Jihad).
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

According to the above, the mayor of Calgary needs to be slaughtered because he associates with non-believers.

Mohammed was a war-mongering, murderous pedophile.....that is the historical FACT.

Like it or not.
 
mentalfloss

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Personally, I'd take the sharia law over the christian doctrine of bend over and take it little boy. (1:44-3:4)
 
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I think that was a hit single when I was a kid, 'My Sharia'

Ooh my little pretty one, pretty one.
When you gonna give me hiqab, Sharia?
Ooh you make my motor run, my motor run.
Better stone you out in the square Sharia
Never gonna stop, give it up.
Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch
of the younger kind. My my my i yi woo. M M M My Sharia...

Come a little closer huh, ah will ya huh.
Close enough to look at my bomb, Sharia.
Keeping it a mystery gets to me
Gonna blow up both you and me, Sharia
Never gonna stop, give it up. Such a dirty mind.
Always get it up for the touch
of the younger kind. My my my i yi woo. M M M My Sharia...

When you gonna give it to me, give it to me.
It is just a matter of time Sharia
Is it just destiny, destiny?
Or is it just a game in my mind, Sharia?
Never gonna stop, give it up.
Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch
of the younger kind. My my my i yi woo. M M M My Sharia...
 
Tonington

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CUBert said:
Is Avro trolling? I can not tell.
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It's called Poe's law. Basically, Poe's law states that when someone parodies an extreme view, that it is hard to tell the difference between the real deal nutbars, and the parody of them without some kind of smiley. It's an internet phenomenon that originally referred to Creationist debates, but now covers all forms of the bi-polar internet discussion topics (climate change, immunology, evolution, xenophobia, etc. etc.)

My personal favourite is this blog:
DenialDepot
 
Praxius

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Colpy said:
Praxius....you mistake the misdeeds of fanatics as doctrine.........I challenge you to find direction for such violence in the actual text of the Christian New Testament.

In Islam, the acts of fanatics ARE doctrinaire........and therein lies the difference.
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A very minor and irrelevant difference considering that in either case, the end results are what truly matters...... whether a religious book tells people to go out and commit violence or a religious book is written so vague that is allows people to interpret the teachings within to justify violence..... in the end, there is more then enough violence committed by both sides in the name of their religion that one gets to the point of splitting hairs to determine which evil is more worse then the other.

I'm sure there's plenty of people in these forums who have more energy and patience to go digging through the Bible to show you examples of their promotion of oppression and/or violence..... I know for the longest time there was plenty in the Bible promoting the oppression of women and children and taught people that they were basically second class citizens...... if that.

Of course I find it a bit humorous that you'd try and restrict your request to just the "New Testament" when it's the religions as a whole and their entire history that's being compared here..... thus, all versions of the Bible are fair game.
 
Tonington

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Colpy said:
I challenge you to find direction for such violence in the actual text of the Christian New Testament.
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The fanatics don't need to look hard.

Romans 1:32, says that homosexuals deserve death.

Acts 3:23, Peter says that those who will not follow the Prophet (Jesus or Muhammad?) "shall be destroyed from among the people".

Unbelievers will be burned by God, or drowned...

Any extremist can pick out parts that fit their political agendas. Monotheism can be easily twisted by people who view the world in absolutes...
 
damngrumpy

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Yes North America extends to the Panama Canal, which was at one time part of Columbia.
Panama was carved off by the west so they could control Atlantic shipping, but that's another
story. As for the Mayor, I hope they have elected a progressive person that will bring good
things to Calgary.
People are afraid of the Muslim Faith. The faith is not a standard bearer for peace, but then
neither is the Christian Faith or the Faith of the Jews. The problem is they all call for peace
and display little of it. All three have Abraham as their founding father. Some other things
many might not know. Jesus Christ is the number two profit of the Muslim Faith. the Virgin
Mary, of the Christians has one page devoted to her in the Bible. The Muslims devote an
entire chapter to her in the Koran. What does this have to do with anything? We see words
of fear and visions of mistrust by one group of another who in many cases believe the same
things. None of these groups believe unconditionally the peace they preach, but that does
not mean we can put blanket labels on people. When we strip away the labels we find that
most want the same thing. A better life for their kids and opportunity to rise to the level of
their own incompetence. What makes people maintain their differences is when others try
to marginalize them. Communities of them and us are not good for the future of our
country. Democracy is supposed to be about openness and acceptance and respect for
others whether you agree with them or not. We no longer have that in this country and that
to me is troubling. I wish Calgary well, maybe we can begin to dismiss some of the myths
about each other in this country, on the other hand I am not holding by breath.
 
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