yeah, that'd be handy, but, barring that, since I don't have an unreasonably loud muffler, just ticket the guy so he can help fund the system in place to enforce the rules, while I carry on my way without extra costs.
Just a thought: Do we have too much freedom? is there such a thing?
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yeah, that'd be handy, but, barring that, since I don't have an unreasonably loud muffler, just ticket the guy so he can help fund the system in place to enforce the rules, while I carry on my way without extra costs.
it's the price you pay for a more respectable and nicer place to live.
you want more cops looking over your neighborhood because you say there's not enough and crimes are happening too much?
then you're gonna pay for it through increased taxes.
no matter what we ask for there'll always be some sort of increase somewhere.
Why more cops now? because someone doesn't like tickets? You're losing me Chili.
How about, instead of demanding fancy car parts and more police over simple annoyances, you move out of the city and leave those of us who can handle the odd aggravations, to deal with city life? lol.
How about, instead of demanding fancy car parts and more police over simple annoyances, you move out of the city and leave those of us who can handle the odd aggravations, to deal with city life? lol.
The idiot with the car doesn't have any right being infringed upon and just because they might complain or challenge something in the courts, doesn't automatically mean you no longer have the right to a peaceful night's sleep.... everybody is allowed due process in the courts..... if he loses then chances are he'll face a larger fine then he originally would have.
Good reasons huh?
Just because something is illegal, doesn't automatically mean there was any justifiable reasons for it being illegal other then it being the popular opinion of the time it was made illegal. The reason why pot was made illegal in the first place had more to do with racism, bias, propaganda and ignorance....... and since the government has a hard time ever admitting they did something wrong or did something for the wrong reasons, that is why it has remained illegal for so long.
But this particular topic about marijuana has been debated to death in a number of threads already...... just because you think something should remain illegal because it's already illegal just proves your lack of knowledge on the subject.
And I don't mean that as an insult..... I thought much the same way as you towards marijuana until I actually looked into it, listened to the friends I trusted, read various studies, reports and news articles...... and then through personal experience in trying it to know wtf it's all about.
I highly doubt I'd ever be someone who'd bother to seek prostitution and I can think of better things to burn my money on...... but that doesn't mean I think everybody else should confirm to my way of thinking....... unless it is your body in question, you, I and everybody else shouldn't have a say in what happens.
If buddy down the street wants to sell his or her body for some money, if buddy down the street wants to smoke some dope, drink some beer, or pop some E...... so long as they keep it in their own private life, so long as they pose no risk or danger to the public around them and so long as they can still productively support themselves, society and those under their care..... in a safe manner....... Then it's nobody's business wtf they do, how often they do it or who they do it with.
The only time you have a say is when you're asked if you want sex for money..... or if you're asked if you want to do some drugs......... in other words, you only have a say over what involves you.
I don't tell you how to live your life..... I don't tell you what you can and can not do in your personal life and I highly doubt you'd allow me or anyone else to tell you what to do simply because I or someone else doesn't like what you're doing....... so don't go around acting as though I and others would appreciate your interference in our lives.
If I want to smoke dope all the time, I'm going to damn well do it....... If I wanted to Overdose on a bad batch of Heroin..... guess what?
If I want to sell my penis on the street for some extra money..... guess what?
Do you think I'm not going to do it simply because you don't like those things?
Do you think I'm not going to do those things simply because they're illegal or suddenly made illegal?
Do you think I'm not going to do those things simply because you're ignorant on the finer details of said thing while I have 13 years of 1st hand experience to know what said thing does to my mind and my body, as well as what it does to the rest of my life?
Too much freedom???
The only freedom I think there's too much of these days, is the freedom to take other people's freedom away.
Well if that's the way you think of it, why is alcohol still legal? It impairs your decision making skills as well as your driving ability far far greater then pot could ever accomplish.
I smoke pot virtually every single day, at least once a day and guess what?
I work, I pay my bills, I have a relationship, I still talk to my family/parents, I have a roof over my head, I am independent and have been so since I left high school..... and in a couple of months, I will be moving to Australia, starting a whole new life, starting a family, etc.........
Plus the fact that I can complete my work on time and do it well, while at the same time holding detailed debates in these forums and elsewhere on the internet..... kinda proves your above claims a tad on the wrong side of things.
And for the record, I don't drink alcohol anymore.
I can't stand most drunk people..... I don't like how it makes people violent, want to fight all the time, it makes them depressed, sick to the point of vomiting, or perhaps dying from alcohol poisoning...... or the idiots who drink and decide to drive, ending up killing innocent people and with any luck, kill themselves at the same time.
^ So because of these reasons, should my personal view be adopted and everybody should just accept alcohol as a banned substance?
That would be contradictory to my own beliefs towards a narcotic I believe is far safer and less of a danger to society in general...... but also..... they already tried to make alcohol illegal and look at what happened?
Crime, gangs, police corruption and the underground exploded in size and mass.
The only reason why pot never made it back to a legal status was because most white christians didn't use pot at the time, it was a minority's drug and the opposition against pot being illegal was far smaller then the opposition towards alcohol.
Plus alcohol is physically and mentally addictive..... at best, pot is only mentally addictive..... which equates its addictive traits to that of chocolate.
I live in a small city, only 24,500+ people.
well I don't care for smoking of any kind, pot or cigarettes. both filthy habits and dangerous.
I only drink Alcohol on occasional times. maybe once or twice a month if that.
I know where you live Chili, you have it listed right under your name.
No increased laws, no increased cops, no scrapping existing by-laws. Noise by-laws work pretty good as they are, and if you're still so annoyed that you can't function, move to where there's not traffic.
If your gonna leave it up to the government to dictate the rights and freedoms of the masses ...Might as well grab a shovel and start diggin a hole...or pushin the buttons if the systems automated.....SLAVEDRONES .....
Some people need signs, others need to be told ..the rest just know ...
Or Whatever
HuH?
Some people need signs, others need to be told ..the rest just know ...
Or Whatever
HuH?
I am fine where I am. for the most part, but no matter where you go there are people who disturb everyone else.
so then, wait for em, catch em, take em behind the barn, beat em up, tell him to fix it or else! 
hahahahahaha (evil)
just kidding.
hahahahahaha (evil)just kidding.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
Hear Here ....Exactly ... One of the best sayings ever created ! Don't mind if I put that on my "Artisitc Freedom /Written Word" thread ..Do ya ..?
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
Hey lone wolfe , that`s probably Krishnamurti ....hey man....I`ll drink to that .
As Bad as it may be to say ...Some good sayings/Ideas have come from those late night Friday/Sat discussions...That's why Sunday is "The Day of Rest " ....(AHhhh ,oh no,Bad humour, Sorry )
Any moving object that can be dangerous should omit a certain amount of noise, but definitely not at the level some of these young morons like, be it a turned up ghetto blaster or screeching tires on the pavement. :lol:
Now there is a real problem that you just spoke yourself into. You don't smoke pot(presumably or do you want it illegal so you can make a profit?)and don't like sex so you want to prohibit anyone else from enjoying themselves. I personally don't have a problem with loud cars either but then I like any thing with pistons. But there are bylaws against excessive noise in most areas and his right to have a loud car ends at the door of his garage or on the track. This is not curbing freedom, it is ensuring that we all coexist in overpopulated areas. Otherwise you would also have the right to eliminate the source of the noise. This also has been known to happen.