Are Republicans Sore Losers?????????

Avro

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I'm doing my best to be fair here....

The ONLY possibility of replacing Harper is with a Liberal/NDP coalition.......that means Iggy as PM (shudder), Jack Layton as deputy PM (double-shudder) in a government completely dependent on the Bloc for its survival. (Dig up the rifles and clean 'em)

That would be a nightmare..........

The Conservatives are going to run their next campaign on one single fulcrum..........their message will be......

"In this election, a majority government is inevitable.......the choice of the people of Canada is simple......a Liberal/NDP/ Bloc coalition majority.....or a Conservative majority."

It is a good strategy, IMHO.

I'll be fair....at the moment there is no replacement for Harper. Out of them all I have the most confidence in him.

Won't vote con though, for only one reason.

My local candidate is a douche.;-)
 

Bar Sinister

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That is a right wing opinion. Leftists would, of course, disagree. Marx was an intelligent man. Too bad his ideas were bastardized by the Bolsheviks. There never has been a true communist country, just totalitarian dictatorships capitalizing on a name. It may have had something to do with Wall Street financing the Russian revolution (probably the Chinese revolution too).

Wait a minute, Cliffy. Wall Street financed the Russian Revolution? That is the first time I have come across that idea and I have read a considerable amount about the Bolshevik coup. What is your evidence?

Right now, who would you have replace Harper?

Harper is irreplaceable. Devious control freaks like him are extremely hard to find. Unfortunately using the existence of the long gun registry as a ploy to get a majority is a poorly conceived strategy; not when the majority of voters in Quebec and Ontario support it.
 

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Wait a minute, Cliffy. Wall Street financed the Russian Revolution? That is the first time I have come across that idea and I have read a considerable amount about the Bolshevik coup. What is your evidence?



Harper is irreplaceable. Devious control freaks like him are extremely hard to find. Unfortunately using the existence of the long gun registry as a ploy to get a majority is a poorly conceived strategy; not when the majority of voters in Quebec and Ontario support it.

Two factors you have left out.....first of all, although probably only 10% of voters are gun owners that really give a damn about the registry.....they vote, and they vote the issue.........and there is only one place for their vote to go. In a climate of 60% turnout and three major parties, that is a very significant segment. Typically, anti-gunners do not consider the issue that important, and spread their vote around.

Secondly, you are mistaken..........the majority do not want the registry, the majority simply don't care, one way or the other.

And the threat of a Liberal/ NDP/Bloc coalition in Parliament set to take power should scare the Hell out of Canadians............literally, our only hope is a Harper majority next time, or the nation will be literally driven into the ground by the idiots in the opposition.................

Of primary importance to the Canadian entity is that the Bloc become irrelevant, a joke in Parliament........they have a right to take their seats, of course...........but the ROC has a clear duty to keep the seditious far away from the levers of power.
 

FiveParadox

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Ah, the glorious art of Conservative misinformation.

You do understand, of course, that contrary to the claims of the prime minister, the Bloc was never a party to a Liberal-New Democratic coalition. It only agreed not to defeat that prospective Government for what--eighteen months, was it? It would have no Cabinet members, and its members would not be considered "of the Government". They would remain an opposition party.
 

Cliffy

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Wait a minute, Cliffy. Wall Street financed the Russian Revolution? That is the first time I have come across that idea and I have read a considerable amount about the Bolshevik coup. What is your evidence?



Harper is irreplaceable. Devious control freaks like him are extremely hard to find. Unfortunately using the existence of the long gun registry as a ploy to get a majority is a poorly conceived strategy; not when the majority of voters in Quebec and Ontario support it.

This is all I can find at the moment but I will track the other stuff down at some point today. A friend, whose grandfather was one of the original Russian Anarchists that fought the revolution and who fled Russia when the Bolsheviks tried to wipe them out in the coup after the revolution with the Czar was won, has his memoirs and has translated them. Very interesting insights into the actual day to day activities of the revolution that you will not see in any history book.
Cartoon by Robert Minor in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1911.


Karl Marx surrounded by an appreciative audience of Wall Street
financiers: John D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, John D. Ryan of
National City Bank and Morgan partner George W. Perkins.
Immediately behind Marx is Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the
Progressive Party.

And the threat of a Liberal/ NDP/Bloc coalition in Parliament set to take power should scare the Hell out of Canadians............literally, our only hope is a Harper majority next time, or the nation will be literally driven into the ground by the idiots in the opposition.................
It may be your only answer to killing the gun registry, but giving that sneaky little, control freak, weasel Harper a majority would be a disaster in every other department. He may seem left of the Democrats now but that is only because he has a minority.
 

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Bar Sinister; Harper is irreplaceable. Devious control freaks like him are extremely hard to find. Unfortunately using the existence of the long gun registry as a ploy to get a majority is a poorly conceived strategy; not when the majority of voters in Quebec and Ontario support it.[/QUOTE said:
I think being a "devious control freak" is part and parcel of politics. Layton is one, Ignatieff is one, Duceppe is one. In polite terms it's called "being tenacious". :lol:

Cliffy; It may be your only answer to killing the gun registry said:
Who would you replace him with, Cliff? :canada:
 

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It's too bad Danny Williams can't be talked into the federal job,he's one of meby three politicians that give a damn .
 

Colpy

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Danny Williams?

WOW! And you guys are afraid of Harper????

Danny Williams has the instincts of a brownshirt. A nasty piece of work.

That is a right wing opinion. Leftists would, of course, disagree. Marx was an intelligent man. Too bad his ideas were bastardized by the Bolsheviks. There never has been a true communist country, just totalitarian dictatorships capitalizing on a name. It may have had something to do with Wall Street financing the Russian revolution (probably the Chinese revolution too).

There is a small problem with a little thing known as human nature.............."from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" only works in a tiny group, one in which each person actually cares about the others in the group, actually sees them as an individual with needs and worth......once you get much larger than an extended family, once that personal contact and concern is overwhelmed, people will naturally seek what is best for themselves, and damn the collectivity.

When you expand the idea to a state....it is a disaster. Always.
 

JLM

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Danny Williams?

WOW! And you guys are afraid of Harper????

Danny Williams has the instincts of a brownshirt. A nasty piece of work.



There is a small problem with a little thing known as human nature.............."from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" only works in a tiny group, one in which each person actually cares about the others in the group, actually sees them as an individual with needs and worth......once you get much larger than an extended family, once that personal contact and concern is overwhelmed, people will naturally seek what is best for themselves, and damn the collectivity.

When you expand the idea to a state....it is a disaster. Always.

You can say that again. Just look at Unions, there to ostensibly protect the working man and it was good for awhile, but now they are there for themselves and the parasites.
 

Colpy

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Ah, the glorious art of Conservative misinformation.

You do understand, of course, that contrary to the claims of the prime minister, the Bloc was never a party to a Liberal-New Democratic coalition. It only agreed not to defeat that prospective Government for what--eighteen months, was it? It would have no Cabinet members, and its members would not be considered "of the Government". They would remain an opposition party.

And what, exactly, was the Bloc promised to keep them onside???? Or did they do it simply because of their deep concern for the well-being of the Canadian federation? (sarcasm alert) If you think they were not promised specifics in the back-room deal.....well, I have swamp land for sale in Florida.....

But, just for the sake of debate, let's pretend the NDP and Liberals weren't intending to sell out the nation for momentary power (although I think they were, everyone in Canadian politics seems to climb on that particular sled to perdition)..........it really doesn't matter. The point that you are missing is this.......if you have a government that rests on the guaranteed support of the Bloc, you have handed them a level of respect, a level of importance in the Federal government.........and that is to be avoided at all costs. The idea is to make the separatist party less of a viable choice in Quebec, not to enhance their appeal.

Conservatives vs the Liberal/NDP/ Bloc coalition it will be, and justifibly so.

Mark my words.
 

petros

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That is why I said "too bad." By the way, if you look at the BNA act it states that the provinces were given sovereignty and a right to form a central government to deal with foreign affairs and inter provincial trade. The whole separatist issue is a smoke screen because Quebec, like all the provinces, are in a sovereignty association arrangement already called Canada. The only thing I can't pin point is why this is going on. What are they trying to hide behind that smoke screen?
Simple.They want control of the chattle (persons) equity over the Feds.
 

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Republicans seem fickle. When Shrub attacked Iraq, the Republicans were cheering and defending every move, even long after the world realized they'd been lied to about weapons of mass destruction. When the Democrats took over, those same Republicans did nothing but criticize the Iraq situation, putting full responsibility for the mess on the Democrats. Their short term memory failure regarding who was responsible for the mess is bewildering. If the Republicans can support their war under Shrub, and criticize their war under Obama, it becomes clear that they really have no opinion about anything, but merely adhere to a party for the sake of adhering to a party, not because of the party's philosophy and political agenda.
 

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Republicans seem fickle. When Shrub attacked Iraq, the Republicans were cheering and defending every move, even long after the world realized they'd been lied to about weapons of mass destruction. When the Democrats took over, those same Republicans did nothing but criticize the Iraq situation, putting full responsibility for the mess on the Democrats. Their short term memory failure regarding who was responsible for the mess is bewildering. If the Republicans can support their war under Shrub, and criticize their war under Obama, it becomes clear that they really have no opinion about anything, but merely adhere to a party for the sake of adhering to a party, not because of the party's philosophy and political agenda.


this surprises you? does it also surprise you that even though the Dems have a majority that they blame the GOP for their ****ty policies and the fact that the country is in shambles, even though they steered it right in there with the republicans?
 

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this surprises you? does it also surprise you that even though the Dems have a majority that they blame the GOP for their ****ty policies and the fact that the country is in shambles, even though they steered it right in there with the republicans?
Which only proves that they are both beholding to the same puppet masters.

Who would you replace him with, Cliff? :canada:
Rex Murphy. He is articulate and insightful, although he looks like he has his dick stuck in a light socket. Shouldn't hold that against him.
 

JLM

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Which only proves that they are both beholding to the same puppet masters.


Rex Murphy. He is articulate and insightful, although he looks like he has his dick stuck in a light socket. Shouldn't hold that against him.

I fully agree with your first 7 words. Rex sees through most of the bullsh*t. :smile:
 

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Which only proves that they are both beholding to the same puppet masters.


Rex Murphy. He is articulate and insightful, although he looks like he has his dick stuck in a light socket. Shouldn't hold that against him.

I might even go along with that! In fact, I'm sure I would.

But Rex Murphy looks like a fledgling osprey...........a face only a mother could love.....

And say good-bye to the firearms registry..... :)
 

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this surprises you? does it also surprise you that even though the Dems have a majority that they blame the GOP for their ****ty policies and the fact that the country is in shambles, even though they steered it right in there with the republicans?

The Democrats couldn't do anything even when they controlled both the House and the Senate. There is no one to take charge in either party.