How can one get rid of the centre so as to be really free - absolutely, not relatively?Is it possible to be absolutely free of the centre?:nike:
Eliminating the center ..
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Hi Ron , judging the size of he center, one can see that you are "absolutely free" for sure .
Hi Ron , judging the size of he center, one can see that you are "absolutely free" for sure .
What do you visualize/conceptualize to be the center you are trying to get rid of? It is a vague question to me.
Well - yeah - you could get rid of the centre but then the whole 'being' of the object would shift from being that of a glorious circle, to a - well ... lump of fried dough topped by icing and sprinkles. sorry - freedom's just another word .....
Yeah, he often asks questions like that, and it's hard to know what he means. I think I know what my centre is, and I can't imagine why I'd want to eliminate it. Doesn't sound like being free to me, sounds like being either dead or reducing my IQ to about 14, neither of which I would be in favour of. Obviously he must mean something quite different from what I'd mean by "eliminating the center." I suspect there's something Buddhist behind that question, but Buddhism is one of many isms I can't see any use for or reality to. We will just have to await his return to find out what he means.
The center of what? lol Step outside the box for a while.
Anyway, people I know are always trying to stay centered. Being scattered is not that healthy.
That's what I thought.
Too much Krishnamurti? lol
A religious man is a man who is alone— not lonely, you understand, but alone— with no theories or dogmas, no opinion, no background. He is alone and loves it— free of conditioning and alone— and enjoying it. Second, a religious man must be both man and woman— I don't mean sexually— but he must know the dual nature of everything; a religious man must feel and be both masculine and feminine. Third," and now his manner intensified again, "to be a religious man, one must destroy everything— destroy the past, destroy one's convictions, interpretations, deceptions— destroy all self-hypnosis— destroy until there is no center;
No center,
Then you are a religious person.
What is center ?
No center,
Then you are a religious person.
What is center ?
A religious person is a follower of dogma. What you describe is a spiritual person, one without dogma, one who seeks truth wherever and whatever it turns out to be. I prefer eliminate to destroying past, convictions, interpretations, etc, because most, if not all, are socially conditioned responses to life spoon fed to us by those who think they know the truth. the spiritual person gets rid of his/her ego and learns humility and to act in integrity. To me religion requires a person's ego to follow blindly the dictates of others. A religious person has belief, a spiritual person has faith in life. As Allan Watts said, "Belief is holding to a rock, faith is learning how to swim in the stream of life."