Polanski Not to be Extradited to US, Free man.

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Your right, we don't know her personal history, but Polanski was tried and convicted back when it happened. They just have to send him back to finish his sentence.

Roman Polanski sexual abuse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Found this while checking out the trial.

Polanski The Predator

"Two weeks after Polanski plied her with Champagne and a Quaalude, Samantha Gailey appeared before an L.A. grand jury and recalled Polanski's predatory behavior in a Mulholland Canyon home owned by Jack Nicholson."

Transcripts of trial

Click here for transcript pages 1-18

Click here for transcript pages 19-36


Did a quick search and the Hollywood elite along with many others who were supporters of Polanski - Scumbags to a man and or woman - Nothing but scum. My opinion they should be all checked by social services if they have children - they clearly support raping a 13 year old.
 

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Now I don’t know anything about her, except that she wants to forgive and forget. But it seems to me that she has already forgiven him long ago and moved on with her life. And indeed, that is the proper attitude when a great injustice is committed. Rather than letting it fester in your mind for decades, to let it corrode your mind like acid, to live, to exist only for retribution, for retaliation (which may never come), ?



that expression 'forgive and forget' is just that, an expression, the truth is, people never forget, but they
do forgive.
 

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Out of curiosity, I wonder how many thirteen year old girls are deflowered by dirty little twelve, thirteen, and fourteen year old boys. We know it happened, and still happens. I know when I was a thirteen year old boy, I could think of little else. Were all of these young girls and boys permanently damaged by the first experience? I know there was a down side, in that there were unwanted pregnancies and STDs but this was a terrrible and magical time for all young teens.

Juan, do you seriously not have any clue or any remote form of comprehension on the differences between minors of the same or similar age having sex and a minor having sex with an adult?

Besides the fact that most adults can be considered to be influencing the minor's decision and manipulate the situation to work to their advantage..... besides the fact that in this particular situation, the minor was drugged and raped...... but if none of that can sink into your head, then how about the simple fact that IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!????

If you don't think there's anything wrong with being an adult and going off to have sex with a minor..... then how about you try it and see exactly what happens to you. Maybe after the father almost kills you, the police arrest you, you're publicly ridiculed as the evil freak that you are and every aspect of your life is exposed and made known to everyone around you, you're found guilty and then sent off to prison for a few years, you can sit down in your piss smelling cell with your butch cell mate named Sprinkles, and think about why it is illegal and clearly wrong, all the while your cell mate Sprinkles regularly beats the living sh*t out of you every day because he and many others in prison don't quite care for child rapists either.

If you take law in your own hand, kill somebody, as a result are locked up for life and cause immeasurable amount of grief and pain to your loved ones, I consider that to be an act of pure selfishness, nothing else.

You speak of selfishness at the same time you defend Polanski's own selfishness?? :-?
 
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He's free in Switzerland and France.. but he'll be limited to those countries as he has been for that last 33 years. He's still subject to arrest in any other country with an extradition agreement with the U.S.

I suppose he's payed a price. A once promising directorial career (once thought likely to be of Hitchcock dimensions) has been sidelined to low budget European 'artistic' films, and his mark of cinema will have been relatively small.

Even his victim has moved on, and was not interested in prosecuting him further. But it might have done him some good to go and face his sentence. My guess it would not have been long.

It really all brought out an ugly side in French culture. With defenses and rationalizations of what was a slimy, predatory crime against a child, by the French artistic community.. including one from a cabinet minister (of culture) who had written poetically about his experiences in Bangkok's homosexual brothels of young boys.

I'll never be able to watch Chinatown, a very good film, without thinking Polanski was a part of the dark underbelly of the California he portrayed in the film.
 
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Juan, do you seriously not have any clue or any remote form of comprehension on the differences between minors of the same or similar age having sex and a minor having sex with an adult?

Besides the fact that most adults can be considered to be influencing the minor's decision and manipulate the situation to work to their advantage..... besides the fact that in this particular situation, the minor was drugged and raped...... but if none of that can sink into your head, then how about the simple fact that IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!????

If you don't think there's anything wrong with being an adult and going off to have sex with a minor..... then how about you try it and see exactly what happens to you. Maybe after the father almost kills you, the police arrest you, you're publicly ridiculed as the evil freak that you are and every aspect of your life is exposed and made known to everyone around you, you're found guilty and then sent off to prison for a few years, you can sit down in your piss smelling cell with your butch cell mate named Sprinkles, and think about why it is illegal and clearly wrong, all the while your cell mate Sprinkles regularly beats the living sh*t out of you every day because he and many others in prison don't quite care for child rapists either.



You speak of selfishness at the same time you defend Polanski's own selfishness?? :-?

Yes and Sprinkles will play a little game of Whos da Momma and Whos da Poppa - No right answer.

That said they never suffer from constipation again as their ringpiece will be spread like a steamed clam.
 

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Juan, do you seriously not have any clue or any remote form of comprehension on the differences between minors of the same or similar age having sex and a minor having sex with an adult?

Besides the fact that most adults can be considered to be influencing the minor's decision and manipulate the situation to work to their advantage..... besides the fact that in this particular situation, the minor was drugged and raped...... but if none of that can sink into your head, then how about the simple fact that IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!????

If you don't think there's anything wrong with being an adult and going off to have sex with a minor..... then how about you try it and see exactly what happens to you. Maybe after the father almost kills you, the police arrest you, you're publicly ridiculed as the evil freak that you are and every aspect of your life is exposed and made known to everyone around you, you're found guilty and then sent off to prison for a few years, you can sit down in your piss smelling cell with your butch cell mate named Sprinkles, and think about why it is illegal and clearly wrong, all the while your cell mate Sprinkles regularly beats the living sh*t out of you every day because he and many others in prison don't quite care for child rapists either.



You speak of selfishness at the same time you defend Polanski's own selfishness?? :-?

Bullsh!t. Get off your God damn high horse....I'm as convinced as anyone else here that Polanski raped that girl and he should have been locked up. I also believe the victim when she says that every news item about the crime hurts her and her children and she doesn't want to hear anymore. After thirty odd years, it is unlikely Polanski will be put away any time soon, by anybody. So maybe we should just shuddup and go away.
 

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Your 46 year daughter says to you, “Dad, I am over it by now, let us just forgive and forget.”
They never do get over it. To think they do is a typical asinine answer from a male's perspective.
 

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Bullsh!t. Get off your God damn high horse....I'm as convinced as anyone else here that Polanski raped that girl and he should have been locked up. I also believe the victim when she says that every news item about the crime hurts her and her children and she doesn't want to hear anymore. After thirty odd years, it is unlikely Polanski will be put away any time soon, by anybody. So maybe we should just shuddup and go away.
It would be interesting to know what documents the Swiss required from the US - after all he was convicted. So what was their problem.
 

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I also believe the victim when she says that every news item about the crime hurts her and her children and she doesn't want to hear anymore.
How safe does she feel knowing he is still out there? She has done her time, 33 years worth not to mention the rest of her freakin' life. He deserves to do his and more.
 

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Women never, ever, ever forget.

that's right, and that isn't a learned art, it just happens, I can remember things
from 3 years old, and many inbetween, all kinds of little things, family things,
incidents, etc.

my husband forgets many more things than he remembers, and some of what he remembers
change everytime the story is told. lol lol
 

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How safe does she feel knowing he is still out there? She has done her time, 33 years worth not to mention the rest of her freakin' life. He deserves to do his and more.

You have to remember that Roman Polanski can demand twenty five million dollars a film. He was able to walk away on 4 and a half million dollar bail without looking back. He probably has a couple hundred million dollars in the bank. With that kind of money things work differently for you.
 

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You have to remember that Roman Polanski can demand twenty five million dollars a film. He was able to walk away on 4 and a half million dollar bail without looking back. He probably has a couple hundred million dollars in the bank. With that kind of money things work differently for you.
So what?

Maybe he is a good bowler too? Maybe he'll get lucky and end up in a prison with a bowling alley and he can be a pinsetter where things get hot and sweaty and nobody can hear you scream.

That would make for a fantastic ****ing movie!
 

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Your right, we don't know her personal history, but Polanski was tried and convicted back when it happened. They just have to send him back to finish his sentence.

Roman Polanski sexual abuse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Found this while checking out the trial.

Polanski The Predator

"Two weeks after Polanski plied her with Champagne and a Quaalude, Samantha Gailey appeared before an L.A. grand jury and recalled Polanski's predatory behavior in a Mulholland Canyon home owned by Jack Nicholson."

Transcripts of trial

Click here for transcript pages 1-18

Click here for transcript pages 19-36

:lol::lol::lol: Ho ho Jack Nicholson!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always did think he appeared to be what I figured a typical pedaphile would look like..........................sorry if I'm not being fair to all the other pedaphiles but of course he has to be given credit for his acting ability and that would negate any other short comings..............................:lol::lol::lol:

that expression 'forgive and forget' is just that, an expression, the truth is, people never forget, but they
do forgive.

Totally accurate- there's an old saying, "people will forget what you said to them and they may forget what you did to them but they will NEVER forget how you made them feel"
 

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Wonder how long it will be before the U.S. has him?


"Freed from Swiss house arrest after the government refused to deport him to the United States, the 76-year-old movie director still faces an Interpol warrant in effect for 188 countries for a 1977 child sex case.


That means now, more than ever,
[COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Polanski[/COLOR][/COLOR] is truly safe from arrest only in his home nations of France and Poland, and — due to this week's stunning decision — Switzerland.


"He is in the situation he was in a year ago," said Georges Kiejman, a
France-based lawyer for Polanski. "He is free to travel in Switzerland, in France, in Poland, and in all the countries that don't have [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]extradition [COLOR=#366388 !important]agreements[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] with the United States."

Polanski only safe in France, Poland, Switzerland - Yahoo! News


 

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Are little girls in France, Poland and Switzerland safe?

If they put a 1 Million reward on him i am sure he could be spirited to a US Naval Vessel - Bouty hunters - 1 Mill brings em out i would say.
Then let the fuker rot in jail - the one they have for serious offenders -1 hr a day of exercise - let him rot his life away.
 

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You have to remember that Roman Polanski can demand twenty five million dollars a film. He was able to walk away on 4 and a half million dollar bail without looking back. He probably has a couple hundred million dollars in the bank. With that kind of money things work differently for you.

Quite so. That is why the question arises, why wasn't his passport confiscated? He couldn't very well leave the country without his passport, could he?
 

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Quite so. That is why the question arises, why wasn't his passport confiscated? He couldn't very well leave the country without his passport, could he?
You have lived a very secluded life - No passport shall we say - How hard is it to get out of the US, Canada with money to burn. Think about it.

PS - I am still waiting for a reply on your points about your son if he was molested.
 

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So lets take a critical look at your trip into the future based upon your son being molested at age 13

1st - People who have been molested suffer many emotional upheavals - Guilt blaming themselves - blaming themselves for not fighting back - blaming themselves for being weak - - Remorse as they know this person will probably do it again -

So you are now faced with a 13 year old boy who has Changed dramatically - will not talk etc - You can try as hard as you want but many keep this to themselves for years if not decades

So your son - and stats show this is probable - will turn to drugs, alcohol, crime - will become abusive in the same way that he was abused.


Stats also show a substantial number young - from drugs to suicide and other illness usually associated with and coming from the original abuse -

So you and you son sit down and he is age 46 - married with kids - they have had a terrible home life -- the son had finally sought help and was dealing with this -

Then your Grandchild comes forward and tells you that your son her father molested her-

Possible outcomes -

Again the remorse sets in - he could be sent to prison or even kill himself.

All the above are the ramifications from one person being ,molested or raped -

Lastly - Drop the last 2 points - possible outcomes - and you do not know how you would react if that person was let free on a technicality - Seeing the harm caused - Stating you do know is rare as most people talk one way but react another. This observation is based upon you watching your son go thru personal hell along with his family for 33 years and being completely helpless - Have you ever been in a situation where you were completely helpless?

You are going on a wild goose chase here, that is not what we are talking about here. In this case, there is no evidence that the child resorted to drug, alcohol, crime. She did not commit suicide; hang herself or anything like that.

In this case, as far as we know, the victim is leading a normal life. So what you are talking about does not apply in this case.

And indeed, if things had been as you suggested, she probably would not want to forgive and forget, she would want to extract revenge upon him for ruining her life. That is not the case here.

You are talking apples and oranges.


I though am sure of one thing - There are people on this forum that if someone raped their child they would exact retribution - and most of them are smart enough not to get caught.

Killing is easy - Not getting caught & convicted is the hard part
Don’t you believe it. Prisons are full of criminals who thought they were smart enough to outwit the law, were too smart to get caught, only to receive a rude shock and end up in prison.

And you are right, killing is easy. It takes a strong willed man not to kill in such a situation. A weak willed man will indeed take a gun, shoot the pedophile, go to prison for life and cause untold amount of misery and grief to his family (most of all to the victim of the abuse).

What law, if the law cannot help you then you have every right to take the law in your own hands. (called exercising your rights) Nothing selfish about it, the rodent had his day in court, was convicted and sentenced, then escaped. It would be justified to hire a bounty hunter to bring him back. Now a pitiful tiny country can offer him asylum from that conviction, they are no better than he is in my eyes, guess child rape has a statute of limitations there. (When the child grows up the charges are dropped nice law to support) :roll:8O

Now you are shifting ground, ironsides. Now you are talking of hiring a bounty hunter to bring him to USA. Previously you said that you would personally kill the vermin.

If you can hire a bounty hunter, that would make sense. I specifically asked you if all else fails, you would personally kill him (as some posters here have claimed they would), to which you replied yes. And I maintain that that is an act of incredible selfishness. In order to satisfy your hunger for revenge, you will be putting your family and your loved ones through untold amount of grief, misery, pain and suffering.

that expression 'forgive and forget' is just that, an expression, the truth is, people never forget, but they
do forgive.

I quite agree. It may be difficult to forget, but one must forgive, for one's own peace of mind, if for nothing else. Forgiveness gies you closure and enables you to move on, to get on with your life. And sometimes forgiving helps you forget.

You speak of selfishness at the same time you defend Polanski's own selfishness?? :-?

I don't defend Polanski's anything. I never justified what he did. My point is that the due process took its course and it is over. Maybe the process did not work this time, but no process is going to work 100% of the time. Miscarriages of justice do occur from time to time, in any system.

Now it is time to move on. Law has spoken and the law says he is not coming to USA.