Human foetus feels no pain before 24 weeks

[TenPenny]

Let me adjust YJ's response a tad.

If you don't want to get pregnant, then abstain. If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions, then abstain.

By having sex, you are acknowledging the possibility of getting pregnant and as such should be prepared for that possibility and be prepared to take reponsibility for the consequences of your actions. If you are not, then keep the dimes between your legs or your pecker in your pants.

What if you pay for your own abortion? That's taking responsibility for your own actions.

 

[L Gilbert]

I personally have no problem with any woman having sex with anyone unless she's being deceitful with her husband or she's spreading S.T.D.s around. The problem arises when she doesn't want to take responsibility if there are consequences.

I'll concur with that.

 

[lone wolf]

Let me adjust YJ's response a tad.

If you don't want to get pregnant, then abstain. If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions, then abstain.

By having sex, you are acknowledging the possibility of getting pregnant and as such should be prepared for that possibility and be prepared to take reponsibility for the consequences of your actions. If you are not, then keep the dimes between your legs or your pecker in your pants.

"EveronceinawhileIliketoholditinmyhandandlightthefuseandseewhe...."


;-)

 

[L Gilbert]

Yes, I forgot the morality police feel that any 'promiscuous' woman is their business.
Whatever 'promiscuous' means. Typically, it is a way to insult women, while letting promiscuous men get off scott free (pun intended).

I think Anna posted the definition of "promiscuous". It's random, indiscriminate, and casual sex.

 

[gerryh]

What if you pay for your own abortion? That's taking responsibility for your own actions.

so..... killing the baby is the responsible thing to do in your mind?

 

[JLM]

PSA.... The most accurate one.

That is not entirely accurate Lonewolf- Two doctors have explained the problem with it to me. 19/20 positive results are false, so for every 20 people who show positive for prostate cancer only one actually has it, causing a lot stress and worry for 19 people, not to mention further testing. Best to go annually for the digital test, which in virtually all cases is accurate. :smile:

 

[lone wolf]

If I'm right ... it won't be my butt that burns.

That is not entirely accurate Lonewolf- Two doctors have explained the problem with it to me. 19/20 positive results are false, so for every 20 people who show positive for prostate cancer only one actually has it, causing a lot stress and worry for 19 people, not to mention further testing. Best to go annually for the digital test, which in virtually all cases is accurate. :smile:

There's nobody kidding me this time. Now ... I know digital has nothing to do with electronic....

 

[JLM]

so..... killing the baby is the responsible thing to do in your mind?

Right on Gerry- good reply. :smile:

 

[L Gilbert]

That is called hypocrisy, conservatives have mastered the art to a perfection.

Yup. Practising what one does not preach is hypocrisy. Practising double standards is applying one standard to one person but not to another given the same circumstances. You do a lot of that. Posting conflicting views is what confused means and you do a lot of that, too.

 

[JLM]

Yup. Practising what one does not preach is hypocrisy. Practising double standards is applying one standard to one person but not to another given the same circumstances. You do a lot of that. Posting conflicting views is what confused means and you do a lot of that, too.

And you're just not whistlin' Dixie there Les......................:smile::smile:

"There's nobody kidding me this time. Now ... I know digital has nothing to do with electronic...." Nope, more to do with the finger. LOL

 

[L Gilbert]

SirJosephPorter, if being promiscous, getting pregnat and bailing the offender out is on my dime, as a taxpayer, it is definitely my business.

If there was government provided funding as readily avilable for prostate testing (male affliction, not preventable) as it is for abortion, (female condition, TOTALLY preventable) perhaps I would modify my stand.

BC's provincial insurance doesn't cover PSAs (I spend a small bit extra to have independent insurance that does). When BC smartens up, I will likely drop the indie insurance.
Not sure about the other provinces.

So, should it be my business if other policy holders of the same insurance that I have use their insurance? That's all our government funded health care system is. It's the same principle as insurance. Many people pool their resources to be used when they need it. They are putting money into it (through taxes) so it's really not your business at all what they do with their portion. Unless you want to dictate to everyone what they can do, and what services they can use. I'm not personally interested in telling you what to do...

How many people smoke, drink, eat ridiculous amounts of sugar and fat, and take other known health risks? Should we be telling them what to do as well?

Poppycock.

Precisely.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

First off, your reasoning boils down to the idea that 'you can't have something unless I have something', which is selfish and idiotic.

Second, what prostate testing is not government funded?

PSA isn't covered in a few provinces. BC being one of them. The finger grope by your doc is covered in checkups.

"First off, your reasoning boils down to the idea that 'you can't have something unless I have something', which is selfish and idiotic."

So, are all the arguments unions have based on that very same principle selfish and idiotic?

Are all the Canadian laws of equalization between provinces, again, based on the very same principle, selfish and idiotic?

I had to pay $25.00 for my PSA test, out of my own pocket, while all some bitch who laid down once, has to do is lay down once again, and get her irresponsibility fixed up at my expense.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa life just ain't fair. boohoo
Jack if you can't afford $25 once or twice a year for a PSA, I'd bet there are other things you could really whine about.

Let me adjust YJ's response a tad.

If you don't want to get pregnant, then abstain. If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions, then abstain.

Yeah. It's a bit ridiculous of a view alright. There are preventative measures. Anna and I have been having sex for more than 2 decades and she hasn't gotten pregnant in that time. It's because we take precautions. Abstention is an unnecessary extreme.

By having sex, you are acknowledging the possibility of getting pregnant and as such should be prepared for that possibility and be prepared to take reponsibility for the consequences of your actions. If you are not, then keep the dimes between your legs or your pecker in your pants.

Yep. The possibility and responsibility can be almost eliminated, though.

Oh, you guys must be behind the times.

10 out of 13 jurisdictions in Canada cover PSA tests, as far as I know, it's been covered here in NB for years.

Precisely. lol
Either way, $25 once a year is a pathetic reason to whine.

 

[Kreskin]

Vasectomy is covered. I can't remember the last time a gal had one.

 

[gerryh]

Yeah. It's a bit ridiculous of a view alright. There are preventative measures. Anna and I have been having sex for more than 2 decades and she hasn't gotten pregnant in that time. It's because we take precautions. Abstention is an unnecessary extreme.

Yep. The possibility and responsibility can be almost eliminated, though.

almost is fine if you are willing to take the responsibility. If you are not, then abstention is not extreme.

Vasectomy is covered. I can't remember the last time a gal had one.

Yes it is........ but SHE better be damned sure that he IS shooting blanks since it is HER that can get pregnant, not him.

 

[L Gilbert]

almost is fine if you are willing to take the responsibility. If you are not, then abstention is not extreme.

Yep.

 

[Goober]

Doesn't concern me whether you think I am doing well. In fact, I would start wondering about my views if you did think that I am doing well, that would give me a problem.



That is called hypocrisy, conservatives have mastered the art to a perfection.

Liberals have it in Spades -

Repeal the GST

No Free Trade -

Day Care

Honest Govt

Really - You should take a look at your definition of Cons and Hypocrisy

 

[JLM]

Liberals have it in Spades -

Repeal the GST

No Free Trade -

Day Care

Honest Govt

Really - You should take a look at your definition of Cons and Hypocrisy

No use Goober, I posted a polite civil message and what did I get back but one full of insults and sarcasm. :lol::lol:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

That's true to form, typical of your attitude and arrogance. :smile:

Your opinion only. Or do you presume to speak for everybody?

SirJosephPorter, if being promiscous, getting pregnat and bailing the offender out is on my dime, as a taxpayer, it is definitely my business.

If there was government provided funding as readily avilable for prostate testing (male affliction, not preventable) as it is for abortion, (female condition, TOTALLY preventable) perhaps I would modify my stand.

As a citizen, you do not get to decide whether government can spend money on individual items. There are things government spends money on that I don’t like. Somebody else may not want any money spent on contraception. Jehovah’s Witnesses may not want any money spent n blood banks.

But we do not get to decide these things. The only option we have is to vote the government out at the next election.

 

[YukonJack]

"Either way, $25 once a year is a pathetic reason to whine."

It is not the money, it is the principle!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Oh, you guys must be behind the times.

10 out of 13 jurisdictions in Canada cover PSA tests, as far as I know, it's been covered here in NB for years.

It is covered in Ontario as well.

What if you pay for your own abortion? That's taking responsibility for your own actions.

The problem comes with poor women, somebody who cannot afford abortions. Abortion is a medical service and as such is covered by Canada health Act.

I assume if there is a rethink of Canada Health Act due to rising costs and everything is on the table, abortion may also be reconsidered and perhaps paid for based upon income.

 

[YukonJack]

PSA test was NOT covered in Ontario while I lived there, maybe it is now.

While I paid however small amount of money out of my own pocket for years, sex-crazy ****s were getting a free ride any number of times, getting abortions, that could have been prevented by either absention, or with using prevention, i.e. just a small portion of their brains.

And that is what hurts most: paying for stupidity.