Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

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that's right. that's why the activists defended themselves after Israel's trigger happy soldiers starting firing at them.

The LAST guy on board is up for a commendation....it appears he killed 6 of 9......were the Israelis shooting indiscriminately the most killing would have been done by the first guys on board (before the unfortunate targets took cover) That also explains the shots to the back of the head.......made in defense of the soldiers the "protesters" were attacking.

There were 7 Israeli commandos injured, two seriously....including one man on film stabbed in the stomach and thrown off an upper deck......had the Israelis hit the deck shooting, none would have been wounded, as the "protesters" would not have gotten close enough to strike them or grab their firearms. A mistake the Israelis won't make again.

In my former career as an armoured car guard, and later firearms instructor..... I was taught to shoot anyone threatening me with a lethal weapon (edged or blunt) if they were within 6 or 7 meters.....and I taught others the same principle.

Perhaps you could explain why the close relatives of some of the dead have stated publically (and with some pride) that they were "seeking martyrdom"??????
 

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The LAST guy on board is up for a commendation....it appears he killed 6 of 9......were the Israelis shooting indiscriminately the most killing would have been done by the first guys on board (before the unfortunate targets took cover) That also explains the shots to the back of the head.......made in defense of the soldiers the "protesters" were attacking.

There were 7 Israeli commandos injured, two seriously....including one man on film stabbed in the stomach and thrown off an upper deck......had the Israelis hit the deck shooting, none would have been wounded, as the "protesters" would not have gotten close enough to strike them or grab their firearms. A mistake the Israelis won't make again.

In my former career as an armoured car guard, and later firearms instructor..... I was taught to shoot anyone threatening me with a lethal weapon (edged or blunt) if they were within 6 or 7 meters.....and I taught others the same principle.

Perhaps you could explain why the close relatives of some of the dead have stated publically (and with some pride) that they were "seeking martyrdom"??????
And if the crew of the Mavi Marmara had wanted to kill them they would have fallen to the deck as dead bodies. They should count themselves lucky that being beaten is all they got. Apparently people take offense to being labeled as a terrorist.
 

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The Palestinians remind me of the guy who is in front of the judge, charged with fighting.

"But, you Honour, it was not my fault!" he exclaims. "The fight started when that SOB hit back!"
 

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And if the crew of the Mavi Marmara had wanted to kill them they would have fallen to the deck as dead bodies. They should count themselves lucky that being beaten is all they got. Apparently people take offense to being labeled as a terrorist.

These people take no offense, they are PROUD of it, they were seeking martyrdom....remember????

They did take some bullets......
 

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50 Ships To Join Second Freedom Flotilla


Yasser Qashlaq, the head of the Free Palestine Movement, announced Thursday that Freedom Flotilla 2 could include up to 50 ships.
Qashlaq said that a ship organized by Journalists Without Borders will depart from Lebanon to Gaza within a week. There will be journalists, members of the Free Palestine Movement, and other peace activists aboard the ship.
On Wednesday, organizers of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla announced that a Swiss ship will join the next convoy to Gaza.



The aid armada will crush the will of the genocidal psycopathic Israelis. Only if they have any capacity for human shame left, and that is a valid question considering the evil of #1 Concentration Camp Gaza.
 

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50 Ships To Join Second Freedom Flotilla

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Yasser Qashlaq, the head of the Free Palestine Movement, announced Thursday that Freedom Flotilla 2 could include up to 50 ships.
Qashlaq said that a ship organized by Journalists Without Borders will depart from Lebanon to Gaza within a week. There will be journalists, members of the Free Palestine Movement, and other peace activists aboard the ship.
On Wednesday, organizers of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla announced that a Swiss ship will join the next convoy to Gaza.




The aid armada will crush the will of the genocidal psycopathic Israelis. Only if they have any capacity for human shame left, and that is a valid question considering the evil of #1 Concentration Camp Gaza.

What they will do is force Israel to re-occupy Gaza.........and Palestinians will die in the hundreds.

If the Israelis were smart, they would do it now.

But, if the blockade is broken, arms will flow into Gaza, and they will be forced to do it later.

I'm all for them doing it NOW, and thumbing their noses at the world.

But I was born defiant. :)
 

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The LAST guy on board is up for a commendation....it appears he killed 6 of 9......were the Israelis shooting indiscriminately the most killing would have been done by the first guys on board (before the unfortunate targets took cover) That also explains the shots to the back of the head.......made in defense of the soldiers the "protesters" were attacking.

There were 7 Israeli commandos injured, two seriously....including one man on film stabbed in the stomach and thrown off an upper deck......had the Israelis hit the deck shooting, none would have been wounded, as the "protesters" would not have gotten close enough to strike them or grab their firearms. A mistake the Israelis won't make again.

In my former career as an armoured car guard, and later firearms instructor..... I was taught to shoot anyone threatening me with a lethal weapon (edged or blunt) if they were within 6 or 7 meters.....and I taught others the same principle.

Perhaps you could explain why the close relatives of some of the dead have stated publically (and with some pride) that they were "seeking martyrdom"??????

We don't have to wonder at your actions if ever you were compelled to prove your mettle and live or die for your principals. If there is nothing in life worth dying for then there is nothing in your life worth living for. You obviously do not have any concept of the martyrdom achieved by the allied dead of all our wars, and yet I have seen you laud their acts many times. You have been confused by propaganda Colpy.
 

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50 Ships To Join Second Freedom Flotilla






The aid armada will crush the will of the genocidal psycopathic Israelis. Only if they have any capacity for human shame left, and that is a valid question considering the evil of #1 Concentration Camp Gaza.
Where do you put in bids for marine salvage? I want in on all that steel and aluminum that will be sunk in the Med off the coast of Gaza.

What they will do is force Israel to re-occupy Gaza.........and Palestinians will die in the hundreds.
Nope. We'll see blue hats in Gaza before we'll see another full occupation by Israel.
 

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What they will do is force Israel to re-occupy Gaza.........and Palestinians will die in the hundreds.

If the Israelis were smart, they would do it now.

But, if the blockade is broken, arms will flow into Gaza, and they will be forced to do it later.

I'm all for them doing it NOW, and thumbing their noses at the world.

But I was born defiant. :)

" If the Israelis were smart"? You can make that statement, and you did, but you cannot seem to understand that just the question of "if" explains the only viable answer. You are suggesting that Israels need to exist superceeds the needs of every other nation on earth to life freedom and peace. If you still can't figure it out there is no hope for you. You were born defiant, but the road to hell is covered with the bones of those defiant enough to thumb their noses at nature. I don't expect any different conclusion to Israeli defiance in the end, and there is always an end.

Where do you put in bids for marine salvage? I want in on all that steel and aluminum that will be sunk in the Med off the coast of Gaza.


Nope. We'll see blue hats in Gaza before we'll see another full occupation by Israel.

Ghandi would be smiling at your words right now. The blue hats service in Hati says it all, they work for the bankers.
 

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These people take no offense, they are PROUD of it, they were seeking martyrdom....remember????

They did take some bullets......
Apparently they did take offense or there would have been no resistance, saving batteries for wheelchairs cost how many lives over just last year. Zip.
 

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The UN will never try and keep the peace in Gaza until there is a guarantee from both sides that fighting will stop. The problem is that with Israel you only have one country/people to deal with (fairly easy). The Arab population cannot even get along with each other. Till the Arabs put down there petty differences, a UN negotiated peace is impossible.
 

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The UN will never try and keep the peace in Gaza until there is a guarantee from both sides that fighting will stop. The problem is that with Israel you only have one country/people to deal with (fairly easy). The Arab population cannot even get along with each other. Till the Arabs put down there petty differences, a UN negotiated peace is impossible.

No. There is infighting in Israel as well, the non-religious and ultra-religious regularly argue over their different views.
 

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No. There is infighting in Israel as well, the non-religious and ultra-religious regularly argue over their different views.
But it is one thing to argue and another to kill those you are arguing with over a particular view. In Israel it is called murder and treated as such. I don't believe that there is any secular killing in Israel like there is in the Arab world.
 

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The UN will never try and keep the peace in Gaza until there is a guarantee from both sides that fighting will stop. The problem is that with Israel you only have one country/people to deal with (fairly easy). The Arab population cannot even get along with each other. Till the Arabs put down there petty differences, a UN negotiated peace is impossible.
That doesn't mean Gaza should go defenseless. With their closest neighbor armed to the teeth and using those weapons against the citizens (same as those rockets that Hamas has launched in the past ) then it is a tit for tat type of operation that went out with the Hatfeilds and the McCoys. If they are both targeting military forces then a cease-fire should be called, oh yeah, there is one that is why humanitarian aid was on the way instead of warships.

Good I hope the UN does not supply the armed people, let Hamas pick which foreign troops they can get along best with, say one from the Security Council and/or one that speaks the same language. Israel can cough up the complete list of materials that should not be brought in and once that passes UN inspection the troops, say Syrian , Egyptian, Iranian. Whatever the elected government (as per Oct 1, 1948 Un181) of Gaza wants. The West Bank can solve their problems by using their Eastern border, same UN inspections, same option for which country should supply the military protection. (above the local Police forces who have all the modern gadgets like cars to transport criminals that have been arrested, rather than having them to be run down the streets like the bulls in Spain)
For Hamas it might be better to not to let Egypt supply the combat troops as if something went wrong with somebody getting killed it cannot be turned into something that brings the semi-open border under suspicion.
Watch how fast they process the cargo the Iranian boats bring will be processed compared to the speed the Israeli soldiers were moving those sacks in that vid about the weapons the one aid boat was carrying. How devilishly clever of those Iranians to ship supplies with English letters and instruction. very usefull to a population that doesn't even use coloring books due to lack of supplies.

An update on that Arab lady that is a MP of Israel might lose her citizenship over taking a boat-ride on a Turkish Cruise Ship that was off to Gaza with some toys for the kids.

Did I mention the goods Gaza is allowed will be the same list when checking supplies coming into Israel. Perhaps somebody from the south more than anybody from the north. They are already spooked as it is, no sense making it worse. African troops perhaps. If they really want to pretend God has arrived they could see how badly they do the first task He will have for them. 7 years of burning weapons. For a daily reminder of sin all the people who die a natural death that were pricks when alive get buried in a specific spot in Israel. That is also something God will do when that day actually arrives. As it is, the inhabitants of pre 1920 Palestine had the right idea, keep the place low-key because we cannot make it beautiful in the hopes God will abandon His current plans.

(slightly off topic but it is too short a subject to start another thread and this of today's world also include these aspects like it or not)

Too late for the low-key path so start with the good things and try that out first. Some programs are quite large so killing off people only makes the task harder on those who are left.

Nothing we can do will change His timetable, that is why He is God and we are not, including the Rothschild family and all their minions they call 'royal followers'.

We can wipe ourselves almost totally out.

2 to be the two witnesses
10 to be the 10 the Beast 'hires'
1/3 of a small group (say 21) to die as the 6th trump
2/3 of that remainder is killed because they are stilling sinning when Christ returns
1/3 to reveal their individual eye-witness stories to the ones that need resurrection for 1,000 years. The lax wording God uses allows Him some leeway in the finer details (what have we left Him to work with). The 144,000 from the 12 Tribes would allow (the Church) to accept 144,000 children younger than the marriage age.) That also means the Church can be as small as possible and still care for those babies. That is Gods payback for the slaughter of the innocents, ask any Jew who is more precious than those ones, even today that is the case because they were taken by prophecy (Jer,31). Young babies like Moses do not feel grief for very long at that age, they will not mourn for anybody.

We can try our very best but I'm pretty sure we can't whittle ourselves down that low a number no matter how hard we try. If there wasn't a big push on to blend politics and religion I would leave this part out. Most people have heard the end will be similar to the flood of water. Satan had tried to eliminate the purity of the human gene-pool and God did nothing until Noah (and his wife) alone were pure.
Had there not been that purity Jesus could not have been born to become High Priest. Without that event only OT Israel would be saved. No Abraham, no Noah no anybody but Ezekiel and Enoch. (I'm quite sure when God takes you it is just the breath He lent you that He is after. Dust you can get almost anywhere.)

Today's events come under the heading of same old same old. That means in real terms this. We say we are becoming wiser and kinder as we get closer (as a global community) & older. The conquest of the North American Indians was a deliberate genocide. That is the way things were done, if you wanted something you killed and you took it. All wars have that element in common. This current talk is quite different, the Bible is being used as the playbook. Men choosing the winners and the losers, the whole thing on their resume comes from reading a book, so does mine but at least I am aware of the difference between being a reader and being the author of a book that has several different options.
 

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Video Shows Israeli Commando Executing American

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The Israeli military attempted to confiscate and erase the photographic and video evidence of its brutal asault on the Mavi Marmara aid ship on Memorial Day. But it turns out that digital images can often be recovered after erasure, and can be put on small memory sticks that can be hidden in nooks and crannies of luggage. So some images are in fact surfacing.
The most damaging is a film of an Israeli soldier kicking an American citizen while the latter is on the ground,and then executing him. This film completely refutes the rightwing Israeli government’s narrative of besieged lightly armed troops haplessly fending off naked aggression on the part of the aid workers. The video, which has not been confirmed, is now at Youtube: