Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

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One owner actually did that, I heard it on one of the "Now you know the rest of the story episodes"

The other things still have to be tackled at sometime. Fishing boats cannot go out past 3 miles these days. Canada allows a huge increase over that wile still being within the law and nobody is shooting at them. That is why giving more thann they ask for (useful items) would make smuggling non productive. Those beaches should be able to provide billions just on tourism. Nobody wants to take their family to a place where swimmers (AKA divers) are being gunned down. Who cares who gets the patrol rights as long as sharks are the only things being gunned down. Using NK is because it should not be any of the 33 countries that said Arabs should be protected and yet did nothing until a Nation that voted 'No' got the backing of the citizens of the world and now we have to do something to help them. Our biggest concern would be 'what's in it for us', this time the answer is nothing but the bill. We can pass it on to our boss and tell him to pay it, if we had any balls that is.
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That has what to do with...

Throw so much money at Hamas (clean, no strings) that they cannot be bribed. Some race-horse owners bribe jockeys to make sure a race turns out a certain way. The smart ones bribe their own jockeys to NOT throw the race

Which is what caused me to suggest you change the tinfoil on your hat. Is your comprehension issue getting more serious?

what's the law that allows armed militiary to fire upon humanitarians delivering aid
Asked and answered many times over now. If you get some help with your comprehension issues, you wouldn't have to be told the same thing over and over.

Still can't answer my question eh. I didn't think you would. The answer is just to troubling for you to face, lol.
 

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Asked and answered many times over now. If you get some help with your comprehension issues, you wouldn't have to be told the same thing over and over.
no no valid answer was shown that firing on humanitarian citizens was legally justifiable. because it isn't.

Still can't answer my question eh. I didn't think you would. The answer is just to troubling for you to face, lol.

what question
 

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like the 50 million blood thirsty Christian Zionists who bank roll settlement developement to egg on a full blown war.
Did you see the vid "waiting for Armageddon" They actually discuss the plane and who the enemy is. It is very clear they have no intention of letting anybody but Jews have Jerusalem, right down to who is going to launch a missile that goes off target and accidentally takes out the Dome of the Rock. Funny thing is the 'speaker' couldn't remember if it was Saddam or Iran that would launch the projectile. I could rip that whole thing apart, right down to the glee shown by the former cop and his excitement on going of house raids. Be nice to see the stats on all those raids. When two cover the final battle they bring up that when God is doing things a person ion a crowd could be 'melted' and people next to him would not be harmed. Anybody that has a piece of metal in them can already be melted via the microwave things being developed for crowd control. All it takes is to move it off 'defrost' mode.
 

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no no valid answer was shown that firing on humanitarian citizens was legally justifiable. because it isn't.
Says you. The law dictates otherwise. Quite frankly, given the fact that you have dismissed international law, several times now, on all manner of events. There really is no chance of you will ever recognize anything posted to you that is contrary to what you simply believe is fact, no matter how damning or factual it is. I don't think even the activists aboard the boats, many of which have already stated that some activists were preparing for battle, long before the Israel launches reached the ships.

You will simply dismiss anything that doesn't mesh with your ideology, or the image of Israel that you have created.

what question
The one that was followed by a question mark, several posts back. Here's a chance for you to work out some of those issues you have with comprehension. See if you can find it. It's not like it was hidden or camouflaged.
 

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no no valid answer was shown that firing on humanitarian citizens was legally justifiable. because it isn't.
Even the Turkish military says they were justified and with a legal blockade that is also supported by following the link below.
Q&A: Is Israel's naval blockade of Gaza legal? | Reuters

If Israel hadn't had them branded as a terrorist organization (when they are quite the opposite) the crew would not have been all that preceded from when they met the commandos. Why are the missing ones not listed as dead?
 

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Even the Turkish military says they were justified and with a legal blockade that is also supported by following the link below.
Q&A: Is Israel's naval blockade of Gaza legal? | Reuters
Thanx again for conceding to that fact. It really shows strength and character.

If Israel hadn't had them branded as a terrorist organization (when they are quite the opposite) the crew would not have been all that preceded from when they met the commandos.
Actually, that's not true. Their being branded as terrorists, bore no weight on the legality of the boardings.

Why are the missing ones not listed as dead?
As has been pointed out, maybe they were spies...key Bond theme song now...
 

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Says you. The law dictates otherwise. Quite frankly, given the fact that you have dismissed international law, several times now, on all manner of events. There really is no chance of you ever recognize anything posted to you that is contrary to what you simply believe is fact, no matter how damning or factual it is. Nothing, I don't think even the activists aboard the boats, many of which have already stated that some activists were preparing for battle, long before the Israel launches reached the ships.

You will simply dismiss anything that doesn't mesh with your ideology, or the image of Israel that you have created.

lol you advocate the killing of unarmed humanitarians because your whacko backwards brain somehow thinks it's legal.
give me links that provides facts that the people were preparing for battle. i've heard that some of the people on the flotilla brought their children on board, hardly seems like they'd be preparing for battle in that case. not to mention there are Canadian activists that are saying things contrary to you.

The one that was followed by a question mark, several posts back. Here's a chance for you to work out some of those issues you have with comprehension. See if you can find it. It's not like it was hidden or camouflaged.

you typed all that when all you could have did was retype the question. i'm not scrolling through the garbage to find it.

Even the Turkish military says they were justified and with a legal blockade

turkey is calling for israel's head
 

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Actually, that's not true. Their being branded as terrorists, bore no weight on the legality of the boardings.
That is why no compensation or apology will be asked for (by Turkey). The dead welcomed the chance to show the IDF some of what they would be like if they were terrorists. All the ones beaten IDF lived to see the next sunrise, a real terrorist would have taken their lives.

I do support that it was legal under blockade conditions. That doesn't cover the issues this link explores.
What legitimacy does Israel have? > Palestine > Redress Information & Analysis
 

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Did you see the vid "waiting for Armageddon" They actually discuss the plane and who the enemy is. It is very clear they have no intention of letting anybody but Jews have Jerusalem, right down to who is going to launch a missile that goes off target and accidentally takes out the Dome of the Rock. Funny thing is the 'speaker' couldn't remember if it was Saddam or Iran that would launch the projectile. I could rip that whole thing apart, right down to the glee shown by the former cop and his excitement on going of house raids. Be nice to see the stats on all those raids. When two cover the final battle they bring up that when God is doing things a person ion a crowd could be 'melted' and people next to him would not be harmed. Anybody that has a piece of metal in them can already be melted via the microwave things being developed for crowd control. All it takes is to move it off 'defrost' mode.
No I haven't seen that. I've heard it in real life from the other parents where my daughter goes to school and from some of the bi-polar lunatics that some how made it through some barely accredited bible college that call themselves "authorities" on the other bi-polar lunatics like Darby(sp) and other prophecy "Pastor Dudates" raving from the pulpit of some quonset turned "church" on the edge of town.

Freedom of religion isn't all it's cracked up to be.
 

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lol you advocate the killing of unarmed humanitarians because your whacko backwards brain somehow thinks it's legal.
give me links that provides facts that the people were preparing for battle. i've heard that some of the people on the flotilla brought their children on board, hardly seems like they'd be preparing for battle in that case. not to mention there are Canadian activists that are saying things contrary to you.
The boats crew were the ones taking on the commandos, passengers are not the same as crew, they are under no obligation to fight for the ship. I'm quite convinced they were looking forward to a confrontation based more on being branded terrorists than protecting the ship from pirates. [/QUOTE]

turkey is calling for israel's head
The citizens or the Military? The military has said it would accompany the next batch of boats that have a Turkish vessel along. There are rules to follow and this time they will be followed. All the cargo and ships papers could be forwarded to Israel after the holds are full and sealed. Israel can reply saying which items they want banned (via their list) and they can be turned over at sea) Give the list before the boats are loaded and then there is nothing to turn over. At sea and before any boarding give the Captains a list of 'weapons' to be collected and put under lock and key until all inspections are complete. That makes the boat safe for the IDF and their Turkish equals who would then do a joint inspection. In a less tense situation I would put a fake missile tube in plain view on each and every boat headed that way.
 

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If compromise were possible is it not reasonable that sixty years would have yielded a settlement long before this very late date This can never happen while Israel holds overwhelming superiority, in fact it would be a precedent of historical notability. Make no mistake we are not discussing a squabble between two equals nor are we considering a black and white issue. Why is my country Canada punishing the people of Gaza why is my country engaged in war against children and civilians why is my country supporting ethnic genocide and why is my country in bed with the keepers of a concentration camp? Why is my gutless country content to witness and support the destruction of so much Muslim property and life? We Canadians are mired in an Israeli cesspool, and we will support them when it is time for Syria and Iran and Turkey and then China by then Gaza and the whole of Palestine will be empty completely of Palestinians.
And you think it won't happen here in Canada, well you know nothing of history then, nobody wins but the bankers. Our great grandfathers died by the millions for them and so did theirs and so will our children as they do today already in Afganistan, and that will not stop until the whole of Eurasia is in flames and poisoned .
 
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Beave, Begin and Arafat had a deal years ago. It was settled but Begin was shot because of it and then Sharon went and did his walk at al Aqsa and ****ed that all up. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Sharon's people who had Begin shot.
 

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no no valid answer was shown that firing on humanitarian citizens was legally justifiable. because it isn't.

Soldiers land on boat...
Soldiers are beaten and one is shot...
Additional soldiers land on boat and shoot..

Pretty simple actually.
 

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lol you advocate the killing of unarmed humanitarians because your whacko backwards brain somehow thinks it's legal.

Weren't those clubs? Weren't they beating soldiers as they landed?



turkey is calling for israel's head

So they can join the club.

distorting the truth of what really happened.

Oh...so in that case you and I are on a merry-go-round.

I'll probably get off here then.
 

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Beave, Begin and Arafat had a deal years ago. It was settled but Begin was shot because of it and then Sharon went and did his walk at al Aqsa and ****ed that all up. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Sharon's people who had Begin shot.

You know as well as I do that there ain't no deal till the fat lady sings and the chicken is in your pot.And you know what happens to the next deal maker. Begin was a long time ago. Where are the deal makers following in his footsteps? Nowhere, the bullet was obviously a good investment. I would never presume to second guess the duplicity of Mossad nor any other Zionist. I'm very much afraid that we are already way down the global war hole and there is no climbing out unless it is over the bodies of the vanquished and that will include anyone who does not comply with totalitarian rule by the goddamn banking scum.
And the strangest most bizarre voyage of all, there is absolutely no way that the epicenter of this crap, Israel, can or will survive intact this coming war. Is another burnt sacrifice being offered up? Is there to be another century of supreme victims? Many people wonder at the repetitive nature of this particular aspect of history.
 
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the government and the citizens
Any official reply from the Gov has been emotional, as shown by the passion in the speeches made to the elected members, that isn't how the military is reacting. they would be focused on the sabotage aspect of events and they won't be making any public statements on the progress. Certainly the 'aid organizers' are emotional and the issue of being labeled 'a terrorist' should be more thoroughly defined. Israel broke her agreement with the UN that voided her Nation status the day after it was given. For Hamas to be defined as the same should also mean Israel is also. If weapons are to be kept from one side of an armed struggle they should be kept from both IMO. UN181, the document Canada signed does not allow for one side to favored over the other. If retaliation is allowed for one side it has to be allowed for both. Getting both sides to stop shooting is the desired goal, that means demonizing their closest neighbors also.
 

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Any official reply from the Gov has been emotional, as shown by the passion in the speeches made to the elected members, that isn't how the military is reacting.


you mean in turkey the military aren't mindless drones who follow the governments every word like in the usa and canada?