Hmmm......And I thought that judging other people was reserved to Religious right bible thumpers..........
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I really think that atheists need to chill out......they take their "non-belief" way to seriously...:roll:
What is the worst that can happen....If they're right.....we both end up in the same place....oblivion....:lol:
But should they happen to be wrong.........
What is the worst that can happen....If they're right.....we both end up in the same place....oblivion....:lol:
But should they happen to be wrong.........
Why would you think that? Have I ever claimed to not judge people? No. I can't be called a hypocrite for that. Yet Christians judge lots in spite of the fact that the Bible says "Judge not lest ye not be judged."
lol What was that about judging? And Christians don't take their beliefs very seriously? lmao
So if they are wrong, what can happen?What is the worst that can happen....If they're right.....we both end up in the same place....oblivion....:lol:
But should they happen to be wrong.........
Actually, I will stand by my first answer. No ifs, ands, maybes, or buts, Christians do not have freedom of thought. All their thoughts are presided over either consciously or sub-consciously by their faith. That is limiting. And mind you, I am referring to real Christians, not the ones who only call themselves Christians.
"Judge not lest ye be judged." Double negative, my dear. Tut Tut! You wouldn't want the resident nit picker jumping all over you, do you?:lol:
Sorry, I just looked in my Bible: it says, " Judge not, that ye be not judged". I mixed the words up.
Oh, and my version says it is the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (1965).
Either way, Christians aren't supposed to judge according to their own book yet they do anyway. There's nothing anytwhere saying that we agnostics and atheists like my hubby aren't supposed to judge.
Oh, and my version says it is the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (1965).
Either way, Christians aren't supposed to judge according to their own book yet they do anyway. There's nothing anytwhere saying that we agnostics and atheists like my hubby aren't supposed to judge.
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Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse.
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Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse.
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I really think that atheists need to chill out......they take their "non-belief" way to seriously...:roll:
What is the worst that can happen....If they're right.....we both end up in the same place....oblivion....:lol:
But should they happen to be wrong.........
Should they happen to be wrong, we are all doomed, unless you happen to believe in the only true God, one of several thousand worshiped on earth. Since we have no way of knowing which is the true God, it is purely a crap shoot.
And why does one have to propose an alternative? Simply to say that religion is wrong is enough, the alternative is no God.
Really? Can you quote even one study here, give a link to it? I seriously doubt that any such study exists. The studies I have seen indicate that Atheists are more educated and earn more than non Atheists.
Here is one link which says that Atheists are more educated and earn more than religious people.
http://atheism.about.com/od/excusingantiatheistbigotry/a/Privileged.htm
Now let us see a link from you.
Incidentally, here is an interesting study about incomes of various religious groups.
Atheist Ten Commandments Paul P. O'Brien (3-99)
Atheists have above average income, Jews earn even more than Atheists.
Atheist Ten Commandments Paul P. O'Brien (3-99)
Atheists have above average income, Jews earn even more than Atheists.
Folks can find justification anywhere they assume they want it to be. That's the one downfall of athiesm. You're pretty much on your own if you ever need a paper trail....
When you say,:I am referring to real Christians, not the ones who only call themselves Christians.", just what do you consider a 'real' Christian?
I'm not a Christian, but my family for the most part were and are. My mother is a Christian and lives her life by Christian principles - not Christian dogma. My grandfather was a deeply devote man who was also a scholar. Again, he lived his life by Christian principles - not Christian dogma.Yes, his life was in a sense governed by his faith but it certainly never stifled him.
It's not religion (be it Christianity or Judaism)that limits thought and creativity, it's the dogma - the human interpretation that arises from religion.
Think about it, Copernicus and Galileo were Cristian. Sir Francis Bacon was Christian. Rene Descartes was a devote Roman Catholic.I remember in school studying about Gregor Mendel - he was a MONK for pete's sake but he was probably the first modern geneticist!and then Einstein was not a practicing Jew, but he said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Look, I'm not blind to the narrow mindedness and narrow focus of many religious people - but that's how they choose to interpret the Bible - and how much they choose to take from Church Fathers such as Paul and, Augustine The early Christian Church was very accepting of women - a good reference on this is 'When women Were Priests' by Karen Jo Torjesen. Blows the lid on the whole anti-female-priest train of thought.
It is much easier to bash Christianity, or any other religion, if you stick everyone into one small narrow box.
You have insurance for everything these days..(Even forced medical insurance in the US but I digress)
One should consider Religion.......Heavenly bliss insurance:lol:
The best Jewish jokes I have heard were done by Jewish comedians the christian jokes i've heard were done by religious people....
I still say that atheist are waayy too uptight
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