Bring back Bill Vanderzalm

JLM

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I wouldn't bet on anyone's demise; bad taste and all that, you know, but that's what the stats show. According to StatsCan, males are living to an average of 78.3 years.

yep, that's taking the whole population into account. Once you've made 75 years on average you've probably still got 10 or 12 left and since Bill has lived a pretty clean life I'll give him 15. I'm going to see If I can Google that stat.
 

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The odd thing about Bill Vanderzalm SJP is that regardless of how things were, people still like him. He's just an ambitious energetic guy that makes sense when he talks and ya just can't not like him.

You're right VanIsle, Bill was always a good sensible man and a damn hard worker- he just had a couple of habits that annoyed some people............his religion,............propensity to shoot from the lip....................and mixing up Fantasy Gardens with politics. I'll never forget the day he told the welfare recipients he was going to give them a shovel..............as it was during the hippy era some didn't appreciate him for that. I've met people who knew Bill when he didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out, but they admired him because he worked like a dog & no job was too menial for him.
 

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For a political cartoonist Gordon Campbell with his lies and mental illness, he should also be a cartoonist's dream come true, particularly with respect to his narcissism. Narcissism is alive and well in the Premier's residence in Victoria. Instead of being Premier, he should be committed.
 

JLM

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For a political cartoonist Gordon Campbell with his lies and mental illness, he should also be a cartoonist's dream come true, particularly with respect to his narcissism. Narcissism is alive and well in the Premier's residence in Victoria. Instead of being Premier, he should be committed.

I don't see anything particularly funny about Big Gord.
 

Kreskin

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What Vanderzalm is trying to do is organize what`s called an ìnitiative`. Basically it`s a petition that needs to be signed by 10% of the registered voters in every Provincial constituency. He says that is well under way and expects it to happen. Then, the initiative is delivered to BC Parliament and it requires the government to call a referendum.

The government doesn`t have to act on a referendum, but there would be some serious political baggage if a) the initiative is successful, b) a referendum votes to rescind the HST, and c) the liberals ignore the wishes of the people.

There is also the question of by then it being in the hands of the feds. I didn`t catch the gist of the explanation but he said it falls under the èxcise tax act and that there were avenues within it to keep up a stink.
 

JLM

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What Vanderzalm is trying to do is organize what`s called an ìnitiative`. Basically it`s a petition that needs to be signed by 10% of the registered voters in every Provincial constituency. He says that is well under way and expects it to happen. Then, the initiative is delivered to BC Parliament and it requires the government to call a referendum.

The government doesn`t have to act on a referendum, but there would be some serious political baggage if a) the initiative is successful, b) a referendum votes to rescind the HST, and c) the liberals ignore the wishes of the people.

There is also the question of by then it being in the hands of the feds. I didn`t catch the gist of the explanation but he said it falls under the èxcise tax act and that there were avenues within it to keep up a stink.

I hope he succeeds- today I read a partial explanation of how the H.S.T. will apply to real estate sales................absolute jibberish and mind boggling. When something is that mind boggling you just know you are going to get screeeeeeeeeeeeewed..:lol::lol:
 

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But... but... we need to pay for the Olympics. He has cut government services to the bone already, so more taxes is the obvious next step.

Hang 'im by the balls, I say!
 

Curiosity

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SJR, those were different times. And frankly, the abortion issue is a red herring. The politicians aren't going to be overruling the supreme court anytime soon. As for the rest of the issues, if you listen to him today he's the only guy who makes sense. And he isn't taking any prisoners on the HST. Masterful work.

Curio, Bill's making the Tea Party look like sissies lol. He's on a mission!

LOL Kreskin

My nooz from home often has what VanderZalm is up to - and I think it's great because when people really get emotional over a candidate it keeps them tuned into current affairs rather than becoming apathetic and not bothering to vote.

Ha - the Tea Parties are a hoot too - they have generated interest in people who would never have bothered because it wasn't worth the effort. Apparently the
conflicts going on down here have perked up the interest in what's happening .... which is a good thing. I also view the cross-party trend as healthy too where people are not necessarily voting for the party as a whole entity.
 

JLM

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But... but... we need to pay for the Olympics. He has cut government services to the bone already, so more taxes is the obvious next step.

Hang 'im by the balls, I say!

I wonder when we are going to see the bill for the Olympics. Surely they've had time to tally it up by now. But then we'll still never know what's been included and excluded..................:smile:
 

JLM

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LOL Kreskin

My nooz from home often has what VanderZalm is up to - and I think it's great because when people really get emotional over a candidate it keeps them tuned into current affairs rather than becoming apathetic and not bothering to vote.

Ha - the Tea Parties are a hoot too - they have generated interest in people who would never have bothered because it wasn't worth the effort. Apparently the
conflicts going on down here have perked up the interest in what's happening .... which is a good thing. I also view the cross-party trend as healthy too where people are not necessarily voting for the party as a whole entity.

You've hit the nail on the head, Curio. I get such a kick out of these people nowadays who claim to be staunch Liberals or staunch Conservatives. There is really no such thing as both parties are basically the same. And the people who are "staunch" one or the other are just there for how they think it benefits them personally. Politicians by and large are a screwed up lot, but one thing I'll say for Vanderzalm, he's probably as honest as it's feasibly possible to be. Have a good day, Curio.
 

Curiosity

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Thanks JLM

I agree about the party thing....it's the one issue I couldn't work with when I finally became a citizen - you have to "swear" what you are and with only two choices for me it didn't make sense....as it doesn't for many people down here.

There are the extremists and fringies but many people tending towards the middle or cross-overs have affiliations on both sides of the issues.

At least in the general elections you can cross the line (at least I didn't get burned last time).... so it eases the tension somewhat but the Tea Party group have shown how many people ARE in the middle and displeased with those who are now
representing them in Washington or their home states.

At least people are paying attention to the issues now and not as bored or apathetic as they used to be.... I often wondered "who in heck made the real decisions when it came to a vote".... haven't figured it out even now.... but I see
the lines widening...and that's beneficial to the voters and the nation.

Good day back at ya JLM!
 

AnnaG

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yep, that's taking the whole population into account.
Nope, the average of the whole population is 80.7, if I remember correctly. Women's average is 83.1 and men's is 78.3.
Once you've made 75 years on average you've probably still got 10 or 12 left and since Bill has lived a pretty clean life I'll give him 15. I'm going to see If I can Google that stat.
Nope, 98 to 99% of people die within 3 years of the average.
 

AnnaG

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aaaaaahahhahahahahhhhh You mean that as we get older the average longevity gets higher? Is that why the average for women has increased by .6 years over the last 5 years? No way! :roll:

Trust those eggheads at Harvard to come up with something to tell us that's blatantly obvious to anyone who can think. The next thing you know, they'll figure out that aspirin works to lessen inflammation.
 
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Cliffy

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aaaaaahahhahahahahhhhh You mean that as we get older the average longevity gets higher? Is that why the average for women has increased by .6 years over the last 5 years? No way! :roll:

Trust those eggheads at Harvard to come up with something to tell us that's blatantly obvious to anyone who can think. The next thing you know, they'll figure out that aspirin works to lessen inflammation.
Does that work with inflamed egos too?
 

JLM

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Nope, the average of the whole population is 80.7, if I remember correctly. Women's average is 83.1 and men's is 78.3. Nope, 98 to 99% of people die within 3 years of the average.

I agree with you up until that last sentence..................THERE you are whacko.........:lol::lol::lol:
 

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I was a political cartoonist during Bill's reign of silliness. He was constant fodder for my pen. I hated to see him go. He had colour, panache and two feet in his mouth at any given moment - a political cartoonist dream politician.

Oh yeah, and if I remember correctly, he lived in Fantasyland - what great fodder that must have been.

I think of Bill in somewhat the same way I do of the Carter presidency - basically good people who were in over their heads.