Liberal phobia and the cause….

countryboy

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Liberal phobia? Has anyone commented yet that phobias are irrational/unreasonable fears? I submit that fearing Liberals therefore is not a phobia. lol

Good one, Tonington. Maybe it should have been called Liberal focused phobia...irrrational/unreasonable fear of some Liberals. Of course, that would imply a rational/reasonable fear of the rest of them. Too confusing! :lol:
 

AnnaG

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Liberal phobia? Has anyone commented yet that phobias are irrational/unreasonable fears? I submit that fearing Liberals therefore is not a phobia. lol
lol That would depend upon whether they return to pre-Turdeau liberalism or not.
 

AnnaG

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Or return to Mulroney’s Conservatisem,:roll::roll::roll:
What does Bullroney's pseudo-conservatism have to do with liberal phobia?
Or are you saying conservatism has changed also? (In which case, I agree). Or are you trying to annoy me by picking on Bullroney? (In this case, you can't. I dislike him as much as Martin).
 

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How did you make the leap from me (Countryboy) to a Texas Sodomy law?
CB

Some mysteries are better left unplanned - other wise we could be in for along, long very thin connection to something, somewhere posted -- taken differently then meant - and then it starts
 

JLM

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Generalizing again I see. Economies have "tanked" under Liberal or like rule as well. There are what are called economic cycles which have highs and lows, and are as inevitable as the sun rise, just not as predictable. Perhaps you lived through a couple while Trudeau was in power, but I don't doubt you will blame that on that US. The chances that a two term leader will be in power during one of these downturns is quite high regardless of their political stripe. How they handle it though can make quite a difference. The spending which created the deficit now blamed on Harper came at the behest of the opposition parties.

By the way, I know of no Harper "acolytes" besides Laureen and the kids, certainly none like Trudeau had. Harper is mostly tolerated, (a selective thing with liberals) and considered the best choice given who we have to choose from.

It's hard to argue with S.J. because he has little inkling of how logic works. When you have factors A though Z that affect a situation, you don't jump to the conclusion that because "A" is present every time, it is the cause of the situation. It takes a little scientific thinking sometimes to arrive at the proper conclusion.
 

countryboy

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CB

Some mysteries are better left unplanned - other wise we could be in for along, long very thin connection to something, somewhere posted -- taken differently then meant - and then it starts

Oops, I can be a bit slow, like Crocodile Dundee...I guess I wasn't thinkin' (when I asked that question!) :lol:
 

countryboy

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Wishful thinking? Fantasy?

Jeez, I hope I wasn't included in the fantasy about sodomy. I shall remain sitting down for the duration. :lol:

(I do suffer from "the phobia" from time to time...I'm not homophobic, just ravelunaphobic - fear of raving lunatics)
 

SirJosephPorter

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Debating Minimum wage is like discussing the Death Penalty, Abortion or Gay marriage..

Both sides are heavily entrenched and have views that will not change..

Quite so, Francis. But as in the case of death penalty, abortion and gay marriage, conservatives are again at the losing end when it comes to minimum wage. Their vision of penalizing the poor, contempt for the poor, Devil take the hindmost philosophy just doesn't sit well with population at large.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Generalizing again I see. Economies have "tanked" under Liberal or like rule as well.

Which Libral rule are you talking here, bob? Clinton? Chretien? Martin?

There are what are called economic cycles which have highs and lows, and are as inevitable as the sun rise, just not as predictable.

So let me get this straight. Bush had two huge meltdowns under his watch, the dot com meltdown and the current meltdown. But according to you he is blameless in the matter; it was the fault of the economic cycle? Well, ate least you are not blaming Obama, Clinton and Carter for it, as many conservatives do.

But of course you blame Trudeau for economic mismanagement, right? All the conservatives do.

Do you think you will remember this philosophy the next time we get a downturn under Liberal rule? That the PM is not to blame for it, it is the economic cycle? Somehow I doubt it.


The chances that a two term leader will be in power during one of these downturns is quite high regardless of their political stripe.

I see, so again, Mulroney is blameless in the economic disaster that happened under his watch. But tell me, how may economic downturns occurred under Chrétien? He did not get two, but three majorities in a row. How many downturns occurred under Clinton's watch?

You just hate to admit that a conservative may mismanage the economy, don't you?
 
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SirJosephPorter

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The spending which created the deficit now blamed on Harper came at the behest of the opposition parties.

I see, so Liberals are responsible for Harper deficit. Let us recap what you are saying here.

Bush was not to blame for the two huge economic downturns under his watch, it was the market cycle.

Mulroney was not responsible for economic mismanagement, it was the market cycle.

We had economic downturns during Chrétien rule and USA had economic downturns during Clinton rule (they each served two or more terms, and according to you, two terms means at least one economic downturn).

Harper deficit is the fault of Dion and Ignatieff.

You managed to cover all the conservative talking points all right. Are you sure you are not a Harper acolyte?
 

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What does Bullroney's pseudo-conservatism have to do with liberal phobia?
Or are you saying conservatism has changed also? (In which case, I agree). Or are you trying to annoy me by picking on Bullroney? (In this case, you can't. I dislike him as much as Martin).
Annoy you? That is not my motto..........................it may be your motto not mine.............I am Liberal and you have an allergic reaction every time we interact, ever since I had a difficult interaction with toloola, about the Olympic summer athletes , ever since that incident you are acting as a School Yard Bullie to me, not that I care what you think of me, and I am not afraid of bullies by the way, but you are so quick to tell me the a Liberal phobia is warranted.

Maybe it is time we offer each other r the Olive branch in the name of Liberal Peace


:-?
 

countryboy

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That is easy, countryboy. You claimed that conservative don't care about homosexuality, to which my response was that many of them hate homosexuals with a passion. I gave Texas Sodomy Law as an example.

Sorry, but in my post #389 I stated that I don't care about homosexuality. I don't speak for conservatives or Conservatives, and I doubt that you are any more qualified to do so.

I would like to kindly remind you at this time that the thread is about Liberal phobia, but your antics are beginning to move it in the direction of Liberal paranoia. In fact, perhaps we should start a thread on that particular subject.

We might first wish to check with the administration on server capacity, as you will have several gigabytes worth of input on that one, I'm sure.
 

ironsides

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That is easy, countryboy. You claimed that conservative don't care about homosexuality, to which my response was that many of them hate homosexuals with a passion. I gave Texas Sodomy Law as an example.

Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices struck down the sodomy law in Texas.