Israel - The Right to exist as a State?

[Goober]

MHZ
I have already answered the poll question yet you have not - a small oversight -

Thank you for not pasting about the War Crimes committed as both sides are guilty - do the Israeli's and Palestinians try to put a number to who is/was the worst - that only breeds more hatred and goes nowhere

As to old maps - who really cares -

Both sides are within a few percentage points on land - including swaps of land between each other

Hamas - When talks start to have any progress they step up attacks and Israel responds - Time for Hamas to be held accountable - same with Israel and illegal settlements -

Some of the questions I posed I will pose again for you.

Does Israel have the right to a State that is free from attacks.Does Israel have the right to secure borders.

So let us see if we can play nicely together and have a decent discussion - difference of opinion -

Do the Arab Countries have to Guarantee this ? If so how can it be enforced -

UN Troops - Useless - Look at Lebanon and the smuggling by Hezbollah - the building of bunkers and rebuilding of strategic points - While the UN can do nothing.

Should Arab Countries accept a substantial number of the Palestinian ( Refugees) I do not consider the vast majority to be qualified as refugees as many of those present today in these camps, the fathers and mothers left Israel on the advice of Arabs that were planning to destroy Israel and murder Jews. The Genocide never happened because Israel won the War.

What will the Arabs do when Hamas, Hezbollah and other extremists - (Terror Groups that want the total cleansing ( by any means possible) of Jews from Greater Palestine)- groups within the borders of Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon attack Israel with rockets supplied by Iran or others -

Who will they arrest these terrorists - Likely answer is No One.

Would you trust Arab Guarantees?

Jerusalem - Should it be a divided capital - If so why - Jordan had the rights prior to the 67 war to Jerusalem and gave the rights up later-
Jordan purged Jerusalem of Jews when it captured part of Jerusalem.

 

[Goober]

MachjoProbably the same thing as here. People might chat with him, debate with him, etc. Now if he wore a Jewish cap on his head, maybe, maybe some Arab gunman would kill him, depending on where he was, what he was doing, who was around, etc. unless he could read the placard in which case he might approach the man in curiosity to ask him what it's about.



If he dressed like an Arab, maybe some Jews would eye him with suspicion, maybe some police harassment as they check him out for bombs, etc.? if in Palestinian territory, maybe the risk of being shot by a crazy Israeli soldier when out of sight of authorities,or who has a crazy platoon commander, but again highly unlikely.



Point -This person would have a smaller chance of encountering violent reprisal in Isreal than in Gaza - West Bank less than Gaza - 2 diferent Govts that run the place

My guess is that most persons, Israeli or Arab, don't take pleasure in killing people, so I'd guess he'd have a pretty good chance of survival even if he dressed like a Jew or Muslim, though granted the risk would still be there either way.

You are partly correct - Only problem is that many Palestinians are bombarded daily on TV, Radio - Newspapers etc about the hated Jew -Also taught in the schoolsBut if a person in Gaza or the West Bank was able to live in peace and not have their country cut into pices by a settlement - Most would agree -

Lastly what do you do with Hamas -

 

[Colpy]

If their treatment of the people who lived their prior is the cause of todays persecution then perhaps they should decrease the killings instead of increasing them. Israel already indicated they have more enemies than Gaza, perhaps they will always have an enemy, after all even God ditched them for awhile.

Bull****.

Persecution of Jews in Europe is over 1000 years old............easily.

In fact, it can be traced to the dispersion of some of the Jewish population of Judea after tyhe destruction of the temple in the first century, when that area was occupied by the Roman Empire.

A major part of this persecution is the fault of "Christian" religious idiots, who have viewed all Jews as "Christ-killers", conveniently ignoring the fact that Christ was a Jew, Pilate was Roman, and Harod was a Roman puppet.

To blame Jews for their own persecution is putting the cart before the horse.......much of that blame, and the requirement for a safe Jewish homeland, properly lies at the feet of your own Church.

 

[Goober]

Colpy

A tad more info

Jewish persecution: 70 to 1200 CE

 

[MHz]

Bull****.

Persecution of Jews in Europe is over 1000 years old............easily.

In fact, it can be traced to the dispersion of some of the Jewish population of Judea after tyhe destruction of the temple in the first century, when that area was occupied by the Roman Empire.

A major part of this persecution is the fault of "Christian" religious idiots, who have viewed all Jews as "Christ-killers", conveniently ignoring the fact that Christ was a Jew, Pilate was Roman, and Harod was a Roman puppet.

To blame Jews for their own persecution is putting the cart before the horse.......much of that blame, and the requirement for a safe Jewish homeland, properly lies at the feet of your own Church.

uhmn Colpy. I was referring to if Israel stopped killing the Palestinians these days the persecution of these days would be less. BTW having your asses hauled before a war crimes court is a sign they have been persecuting somebody. Half (or more) of that persecution was because of their perverted banking practices. That is why England kicked them out for 400 years.

 

[MHz]

Colpy

A tad more info

Jewish persecution: 70 to 1200 CE

Goober You can't really call events foretold by God as being persecution.

70: The Roman Army destroyed Jerusalem, killed over 1 million Jews, took about 100,000 into slavery and captivity, and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

 

[Colpy]

Goober You can't really call events foretold by God as being persecution.

70: The Roman Army destroyed Jerusalem, killed over 1 million Jews, took about 100,000 into slavery and captivity, and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

EXCUSE ME????????

The fact something was foretold does not remove the onus of guilt from the perpetrator, nor does it change the nature of the crime.

And I am NOT engaged in Bible studies here.

BTW, the Jews were expelled from Britain at the repeated urging of a succession of Popes, after they had (at the Pope's edict) been forced to wear upon their clothes signs that indicated they were Jews (sound familiar???), after they had been banned from charging interest, after they had been banned from most professions, and after they had borne repeated massacres by Crusaders in England.......I think you need to read a little history.

 

[MHz]

EXCUSE ME????????

The fact something was foretold does not remove the onus of guilt from the perpetrator, nor does it change the nature of the crime.

And I am NOT engaged in Bible studies here.

What was the punishment back then for killing somebody for 3 days and 3 nights?
True but your friends certainly are trying to fit themselves in (in a good light which is a little hard to do while being in exile from the Holy Land).

BTW, the Jews were expelled from Britain at the repeated urging of a succession of Popes, after they had (at the Pope's edict) been forced to wear upon their clothes signs that indicated they were Jews (sound familiar???), after they had been banned from charging interest, after they had been banned from most professions, and after they had borne repeated massacres by Crusaders in England.......I think you need to read a little history.

Even your handlers come closer to telling it as it was. BTW it was lending money @ interest that was made illegal. Wonder if life in England improved after that for awhile.

Expulsion of 1290

On July 18, 1290, shortly after money lending was made heretical and illegal in England, Edward I expelled the Jews from England, making England the first European country to do so. Most Jews fled to continental Europe, settling mostly in France and Germany, although some managed to remain in England by hiding their identity and religion. There is disagreement over the number — either 4,000 or 16,000) — who were actually forced to leave England. The Jewish exile from England lasted 350 years.
The Virtual Jewish History Tour - England

 

[earth_as_one]

You obviously don't understand the history of western interference in middle eastern politics and the true reason there is unrest and animosity over there....

...both are reactionary morons in a power struggle over oil, the use of which I would only be thrilled to see come to an end.

So would I. Unfortunately too much is at stake to stop. This simmering Global conflict could flare up anywhere, at any time.

For example, Can Palestinians also justify using stolen British IDs to assassinate Israeli leaders internationally?

SOCA to interview passport holders in Israel
Six British Israelis whose identities were allegedly stolen by the assassins of a Hamas commander in Dubai are to be questioned by the Serious Organised Crime Agency in the next few days.

None of the six men are being treated as suspects but it is hoped that their testimonies could provide a common thread for investigators seeking to establish whether or not Israel's Mossad spy agency was behind the killing of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh last month.

At least one officer from SOCA flew into Tel Aviv this week as the agency expanded its investigation into Israel for the first time...

...The six identity theft victims – Paul Keeley, James Clarke, Michael Barney, Jonathan Graham, Melvyn Mildiner and Stephen Hodes – will be questioned at the British embassy in Tel Aviv when they come into receive their new passports....

...Australian, British and Canadian passports were regularly manufactured by a department within Mossad headquarters...

SOCA to interview passport holders in Israel - Telegraph

I doubt our PM would hold Israel accountable if they similarly abused Canadian citizens.

Canada's Prime Minister
Stephan Harper:

Prime Minister’s Speech for Israel’s 60th Anniversary
8 May 2008

...All of my life, Israel has been a symbol – a symbol of the triumph of hope and faith...

...the source of Israel’s strength and success, in my view, is its commitment to the universal values of all civilized peoples: freedom, democracy, human rights and the rule of law...

...Canada stands side-by-side with the State of Israel, our friend and ally in the democratic family of nations...

...I also want to go to deliver in person the message of Canada’s unshakable support for Israel...

Prime Minister of Canada: Prime Minister’s Speech for Israel’s 60th Anniversary

Pure Fantasy. Here's a little reality regarding Israel:

On June 19, 2008, an Egyptian-brokered six-month “lull” or pause in hostilities between Israel and Hamas went into effect.[63] The term “lull” is a translation of the Arabic term Tahdia.[64] The agreement had no mutually agreed text or enforcement mechanism and eventually collapsed.[65]

The agreement required Hamas to end rocket and mortar attacks on Israel and to enforce the lull throughout Gaza. In addition, Israel insisted that the agreement would include an end to Hamas's military buildup in Gaza and movement toward the release of Corporal Shalit.[66] Hamas said all the Gaza's militant groups would abide by the truce.[67] Defense Ministry Official Amos Gilad, the Israeli envoy to the talks, stressed that Israel demanded a total ceasefire, meaning that even one single rocket fired will be seen as a violation of the agreement. He added that Egypt, on its side, is committed to preventing the smuggling activity from Gaza.[68] Gilad also said that Israel would hold Hamas responsible for any attacks from Gaza.[67]

In exchange, Israel agreed to ease the embargo and agreed to halt military raids into Gaza.[66][69] Jimmy Carter wrote in an editorial in the Washington Post that the Egyptian negotiators and Hamas had informed him that humanitarian supplies would be restored to the normal level that had existed before Israel's withdrawal in 2005 (about 700 trucks daily).[70][71]...

...Israel gradually re-opened supply lines for some items and permitted as many as 90 daily truck shipments to enter Gaza, up from around 70 per day,[81] but the increase in supply trucks never began to approach the 700 trucks that Hamas thought it was going to get....

...Israeli and United Nations figures show that 10 to 20 rockets were fired in July, depending on who was counting and whether mortar rounds were included. In August, 10 to 30 were fired, and in September, 5 to 10.[65]

eao: Only three attacks in October 2008. Hamas was investigating and arresting suspects in compliance with their ceasefire agreement...

...Human Rights Watch (HRW) reported that rocket attacks "virtually stopped" during the ceasefire but escalated on November 2008 after an Israeli military incursion into Gaza on November 4.[85]...

...Amnesty International described the lull as the "single most important factor" that resulted in the reduction of attacks on civilians and civilian casualties to the lowest level since the beginning of the Second Intifada in September 2000.[87]...

...ITIC noted that while "Hamas was careful to maintain the ceasefire" until November 4 (when the ceasefire was "seriously eroded"), other Palestinian factions violated the lull by rocket and mortar shell fire, in some instance in defiance of Hamas.[84...

...On November 4, 2008, Israeli tanks and bulldozers made their first major incursion 250m into the Gaza Strip since the June truce. A gunfight broke out, killing one Hamas fighter. The Israeli troops entered Gaza to destroy what Israel said was a tunnel on the Gaza-Israel border dug by militants to abduct its soldiers. Israel claimed the raid was not a violation of the ceasefire, but a legitimate step to remove an immediate threat. Hamas said it would take revenge for what it perceived as an act of Israeli aggression that had violated the truce.[88][89] Medics reported that at least five more Hamas fighters were killed in subsequent Israeli air strike on Hamas positions.[88] Hamas launched 35 rockets into southern Israel in what was described by a Hamas spokesman as a "response to Israel's massive breach of the truce".[90][91]...

eao: The same day Barack Obama wins the US Presidential election, indicating Israel deliberately planned to violate yet another of their ceasefire obligations and provoke a response to justify phase 2 of their plan...

...At 11:30am on December 27, 2008, Israel launched the campaign titled Operation Cast Lead. It began with an opening wave of airstrikes in which F-16 fighter jets and AH-64 Apache attack helicopters[114] simultaneously struck 100 preplanned targets within a span of 220 seconds. The Israel Air Force claimed a 95% success rate with zero misses in the opening attack.[115] Thirty minutes later, a second wave of 60 jets and helicopters struck at an additional 60 targets. The air strikes hit Hamas headquarters, government offices and 24 police stations.[116] Approximately 140 members of Hamas were killed, including Tawfik Jaber, head of Hamas' police force.[117][118] Israeli Foreign Minister Tsipi Livni told reporters that Israel would strike all targets associated with what she called the "illegitimate, terrorist government of Hamas".[115]

At least 230 Palestinians were killed and more than 700 injured on the first day of air strikes. Civilians, including children, were among the casualties.[118] Human rights groups critically note that the attacks began around the time children were leaving school.[119] The Israeli attack was the deadliest one-day death toll in 60 years of conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians, which has led some Palestinians to call it the Massacre of Black Saturday.[120][121][122]...

Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In case anyone didn't know, all credible and independent inquiries and investigation have determine Israeli actions were and continue to be crimes and crimes against humanity.

UN Fact Finding Mission finds strong evidence of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed during the Gaza conflict; calls for end to impunity

15 September 2009

NEW YORK / GENEVA – The UN Fact-Finding Mission led by Justice Richard Goldstone on Tuesday released its long-awaited report on the Gaza conflict, in which it concluded there is evidence indicating serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law were committed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, and that Israel committed actions amounting to war crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity....
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Meanwhile Israel's cruel and inhuman crime against humanity in Gaza is in its third year. With Canada's blessing, Israel's blockade has created severe shortages of potable water, food, medicine and other basic necessities from reaching the hungry, sick and homeless.

Gaza blockade threatens health of 1.4 million, aid agencies warn
20 January 2010

...The health of 1.4 million people is being put at risk by the ongoing Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza, a report by more than 80 humanitarian organisations warned today...

Gaza blockade threatens health of 1.4 million, aid agencies warn | World news | guardian.co.uk

Effectively Gaza is the world's largest prison camp imprisoning over a million civilians many without proper shelter. Unlike Haiti, their suffering is not only deliberate but also deliberately ignored.

This conflict is a moral test regarding the fundamental value of human life. Many people here on this forum have failed...

I recommend reading this Jewish perspective:

By Avigail Abarbanel
24 February, 201

Growing up in Israel, one of the most striking things I learned about the Holocaust was...

The Gaza Ghetto At 2010 By Avigail Abarbanel

 

[Goober]

EAO

I see that you and you Cray computer just listed a lot more info. Perhaps if you look carefully you may find the answers to the questions I posed.

 

[ironsides]

Nah, they are just recordings.

 

[MHz]

Nah, they are just recordings.

Israel started talking to one or more of the Human Rights Groups about the 'war-crimes witnesses' so Israel could interview them personally as part of their own investigation. Does that mean a the very best witnesses will be suicided before they can tell their story in a war-crimes trial (about 10 years down the road)?8O8O8O

 

[Goober]

Israel started talking to one or more of the Human Rights Groups about the 'war-crimes witnesses' so Israel could interview them personally as part of their own investigation. Does that mean a the very best witnesses will be suicided before they can tell their story in a war-crimes trial (about 10 years down the road)?8O8O8O

Are you referring to Hamas and their Suicide Bombers?

 

[MHz]

No I'm talking about the testimony from the wounded civilians, their stories would be the ones going on the record, they are the ones that would need to be killed. I would think in this day an age a video statement would be taken as the next best thing should something happen to the actual witness. If still alive they could update the courts on how things have gone so far and what is in store for the remainder.
With your new box you can visit the UN and watch 7 cameras at once, in stereo.
You might want to change your avatar before visiting the ME section.
Some recent videos (using original clips) point to Hamas being a creation of Israel to keep things in disarray for the existing Gov. Then when Hamas was abandoned after their mission was accomplished they, God forbid, starting acting like a responsible government. lol This is based on recent reports on a mole Israel had in Hamas during those years. He is said to have stopped many suicide attacks by letting the IDF know the plan. That's great unless that same operative was part of the planning in thought (rile up the troops) or in deed (have his handlers make explosives available so a device is actually built) Commonly called being 'set-up'. Think how good it would be for Israel to have traffic cams at every check-point (just to show anybody with web access that nothing 'funny' is going on.

I hear access to the dungeons of the UN is only $10 more / month over the two access levels above free.

 

[CDNBear]

Efforts in futility...

 

[ironsides]

Israel started talking to one or more of the Human Rights Groups about the 'war-crimes witnesses' so Israel could interview them personally as part of their own investigation. Does that mean a the very best witnesses will be suicided before they can tell their story in a war-crimes trial (about 10 years down the road)?8O8O8O

Now you have a name for murdering people by Hamas or other radical Islamic group members.? (suicided)

 

[MHz]

Now you have a name for murdering people by Hamas or other radical Islamic group members.? (suicided)

Did you 3 goto the same dumbing down school lol

In the Western Media when Mossad (or the US Gov) takes somebody out by putting two bullets in the back of their head it is called a 'suicide', nothing to see move along, move along. When they assassinate somebody they perfer to call it 'assisted suicide'. How pathetic that we care more for the (illegal) use of passports over the crime of murder. Not that anything will ever come into the courts. Have you guys seen the pdf file on all the ones identified, coming and going. Perhaps the US should buy one of their security systems.

What name is the US using for the million plus civilian dead in Iraq and Afghanistan these days? (in the press and in the war rooms)

Hamas seems to be spending more time making peritions to the (western) Courts than trying to invent new ways to deliver explosives. How many years worth of their rockets could be stuffed into one container of the size of one the US Military sends to Israel by the hundreds if not thousands. And just look what they do with it.

Jenin Jenin (2002)

 

[selin]

Did you 3 goto the same dumbing down school lol

In the Western Media when Mossad (or the US Gov) takes somebody out by putting two bullets in the back of their head it is called a 'suicide', nothing to see move along, move along. When they assassinate somebody they perfer to call it 'assisted suicide'. How pathetic that we care more for the (illegal) use of passports over the crime of murder. Not that anything will ever come into the courts. Have you guys seen the pdf file on all the ones identified, coming and going. Perhaps the US should buy one of their security systems.

What name is the US using for the million plus civilian dead in Iraq and Afghanistan these days? (in the press and in the war rooms)

Hamas seems to be spending more time making peritions to the (western) Courts than trying to invent new ways to deliver explosives. How many years worth of their rockets could be stuffed into one container of the size of one the US Military sends to Israel by the hundreds if not thousands. And just look what they do with it.

Jenin Jenin (2002)

bloodcurdling!!!, need no more talks...

 

[ironsides]

Did you 3 goto the same dumbing down school lol

I was only quoting you. "(suicided)"

 

[Northboy]

Israel - The Right to exist as a State?

Does Israel have the right to a State that is free from attacks.

Does Israel have the right to secure borders.

I have seen how threads like this can become a rant and rave - yes I am guilty -

I will try to " play nice" as my friend Cliffy reminds me when I get somewhat out of hand - Thank you Cliffy - We all need that now and again -

So let us see if we can play nicely together and have a decent discussion - difference of opinion -

Do the Arab Countries have to Guarantee this ? If so how can it be enforced -

UN Troops - Useless - Look at Lebanon and the smuggling by Hezbollah - the building of bunkers and rebuilding of strategic points -
While the UN can do nothing.

Should Arab Countries accept a substantial number of the Palestinian ( Refugees) I do not consider the vast majority to be qualified as refugees as many of those present today in these camps, the fathers and mothers left Israel on the advice of Arabs that were planning to destroy Israel and murder Jews.

The Genocide never happened because Israel won the War.

What will the Arabs do when Hamas, Hezbollah and other extremists - (Terror Groups that want the total cleansing ( by any means possible) of Jews from Greater Palestine)- groups within the borders of Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon attack Israel with rockets supplied by Iran or others -

Who will they arrest these terrorists - Likely answer is No One.

Would you trust Arab Guarantees?

Jerusalem - Should it be a divided capital - If so why - Jordan had the rights prior to the 67 war to Jerusalem and gave the rights up later- Jordan purged Jerusalem of Jews when to captured part of Jerusalem.Also -

War Crimes have been committed by Both Israeli's and Palestinians -
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_jordan_renounce_claims.php
In April 1950, Jordan annexed eastern Jerusalem (dividing the city for the first time in its history) and the "West Bank" areas in historical Judea and Samaria that Trans-Jordan had occupied by military force in 1948 (Jordan changed its name to Trans-Jordan in April 1949). On April 24, 1950, the Jordan House of Deputies and House of Notables, in a joint session, adopted a Resolution making the West Bank and Jerusalem part of Jordan. This act had no basis in international law; it was only the de facto act of Trans-Jordan as a conqueror. The other Arab countries denied formal recognition of the Jordanian move and only two governments - Great Britain and Pakistan - formally recognized the Jordanian takeover. The rest of the world, including the United States, never did.In July 1988, in response to the accumulated pressures and the months of intifada demonstrations by Palestinians in the West Bank, King Hussein of Jordan ceded to the PLO all Jordanian claims to the territory. Any hopes of a Jordanian-Israeli resolution to the Palestine problem were effectively ended. He dissolved the Jordanian parliament, half of whom were West Bank representatives, and stopped paying salaries to over 20,000 West Bank civil servants. When the Palestine National Council recognized the PLO as the sole legal representative of the Palestinians, Hussein immediately gave them official recognition.Although the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank posed a potential threat to Jordan as a Hashemite kingdom, Hussein gambled that this was less of a threat than the possibility of Jordan to become the alternative homeland for the Palestinians. By taking Jordan out of the way, relinquishing any claim of sovereignty, he sought to move solutions toward the Palestinian state in line with the desires of Arafat and the PLO

.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
See UN Maps
http://www.mefacts.com/outgoing.asp?x_id=10191

The following statement by Abba Eban was cited in the Jerusalem Post of August 18, 1995 by Jerusalem Post columnist Moshe Kohn:"We have openly said that the map will never again be the same as on June 4, 1967. For us, this is a matter of security and of principles. The June map is for us equivalent to insecurity and danger. I do not exaggerate when I say that it has for us something of a memory of Auschwitz. We shudder when we think of what would have awaited us in the circumstances of June, 1967, if we had been defeated; with Syrians on the mountain and we in the valley, with the Jordanian army in sight of the sea, with the Egyptians who hold our throat in their hands in Gaza. This is a situation which will never be repeated in history."- Abba Eban, Israeli Statesman, in Der Spiegel, November 5, 1969
(with thanks to Dr. Aaron Lerner and to Clarence Wagner for locating this item)

On July 26, 1978, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, whose parents and older brother were murdered by the Nazis, commented on Israeli Televsion about Abba Eban 's use of the term "Auschwitz lines", when he described the June 4, 1967 map, saying that "you have never heard such an extreme term from me . . . because there will be no Auschwitz here"
http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=000642

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=1118
Israel - Pre 1967 War

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=1125

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=1149
Israel 200o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestinehttp://

www.historylearningsite.co.uk/palestine_1918_to_1948.htm

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Arabs_in_Palestine.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestinehttp://

www.mideastweb.org/mandate.htm

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate.phphttp://

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Arabs_in_Palestine.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917

http://www.science.co.il/arab-israeli-conflict.asp#Jerusalem

[URL="http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Israeli_History/SixDay_War,_Yom_Kippur_War,_Settlements"]http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Israeli_History/SixDay_War,_Yom_Kippur_War,_Settlements[/URL]

A more realistic question would be has Israel the right to exist as a State or a Commonwealth.

It only has the Right to Exist as a Commonwealth.

Peace will come to the middle east when trees are planted again.