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Kreskin

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What kind of eyeballs? That's a legal question? Of course you don't read the fine print those snake eyeballs are not very high. Anybody with a chemistry book and some jugs can make good drugs Kreskin. We can build roads so we can build drugs. Anti biotics page two, trangquillizers page five, boil for ten minutes shake well do not stir presto, it ain't rocket science you know.

Well, why don't you work for the government and start a drug company. It's all pretty simple, isn't it..boil and stir?
 

MHz

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My Mom and son were saved by pharmaceuticals and the banks helped me build my businesses.

Thanks banks a big pharma, I think I'll return the favor and invest with you.
Nobody is suggesting there should be a drop in health care quality. However is you can produce you own antibiotic for $50 (over your life-time) then the billions spent on that could go to other medical uses. If most cancer could be shielded from starting by keeping oxygen levels high for short periods. Please take the time to watch this vid. It is how a low-tech inexpensive remedy to some very serious heath issues was/is intentionally suppressed by the medical industry of the west. Your heath care could be a lot better for the money that is already being spent.
Phage - The Virus that Cures.avi

It is not your business loans that needs changes, you should pay interest. However the country of Canada should not be paying interest on their debt. Just taking away the interest payments solves the debt issue. Take away accumulated interest for the last 70 years and there probably isn't even a National debt at all.

These issues are a little bigger than just you and your family, it is about getting that same care for you to people who are not getting those things today. That applies to getting some money into their hands also. Say you build a ski resort. it costs $100M. By selling memberships you take in $150M in 10 yrs. That is $30M for you (3% profit and $20M for interest for the Bank) At that point you return all profits into maintaining the facility, passes would drop drastically in price and that would allow the 'poorer people' to access the site. The developer would move on and build another such facility and it would cater to the richer folks fort the 1st 10 yrs.

The loans you have taken for cars and even your house would be interest free (except the really expensive ones). You could pay off a $200K house off in 20 years, most houses last about 40 years, those last 20 years would free up more of your personal income.
 
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MHz

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Well, why don't you work for the government and start a drug company. It's all pretty simple, isn't it..boil and stir?
I think the idea is you brew your own, the medical industry tells you how to 'fix-yourself'. Colloidal Silver is said to be an anti-biotic that never stops working against a lot, you don't buy it, you make it. Nobody is even suggesting you use this over a Doctor prescribed med. However in a case like Haiti the meds will not be available, without knowing how to make your own you and the ones you care about could die from a puncture from a rusty nail.


Do It Yourself Basic Colloidal Silver Generator - Parts Needed
 

Kreskin

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If the Canadian dollar is lent at zero interest then it is worth nothing. You'll need a helluva lot more of it than $200k to buy a house
 

Kreskin

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You guys think there is some magic shell game where you flip things around and find suddenly everything can cost nothing at zero interest. Sorry to tell you but it's called whack-a-mole. You'll get rid of one problem by creating an equal and opposite effect somewhere else. Give it up.
 

taxslave

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Not surprising. Remember these are the people? that told us how good Thalidomide was. And we all know how well that turned out. Also anti depressants that list depression as a side effect. There is quite a list.
 

JLM

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Big Pharma researcher admits to faking dozens of research studies for Pfizer, Merck (opinion)

By Mike Adams, NaturalNews Editor
February 18 - It's being called the largest research fraud in medical history. Dr. Scott Reuben, a former member of Pfizer's speakers' bureau, has agreed to plead guilty to faking dozens of research studies that were published...

Are you characterising the entire industry by one fraudster? This is the way vicious gossip and rumours get started. For the benefit of your own credibility you should find other things to do. I'm not big on the pharmaceutical industry, but there's aspects of it that are essential to health and well being.
 

Bar Sinister

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I read this article a month or so ago. The history of modern pharmaceutical firms is that they are all about money. Helping humanity does has very little to do with their research and they will lie and bribe their way to financial success at any cost. One only has to look at the sort of products they research. Almost all of them are medicines that have to be taken daily. There is no effort to actually find the cure to anything. Hence, we end up with endless remedies to suppress cold symptoms, but no research in medicines that might actually get rid of a cold.
 

Kreskin

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Are you characterising the entire industry by one fraudster? This is the way vicious gossip and rumours get started. For the benefit of your own credibility you should find other things to do. I'm not big on the pharmaceutical industry, but there's aspects of it that are essential to health and well being.

JLM, tell me it ain't so. Are you sure everyone successful in the world isn't evil? That can't be right.
 

MHz

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If the Canadian dollar is lent at zero interest then it is worth nothing. You'll need a helluva lot more of it than $200k to buy a house
Please pay attention, SOME loans can be had at 0% interest. First you have to start out with a money supply that is paying 0% interest on the money they print. Only the Gov can do that because it is a non-profit institution.
These are the loans that can be had at 0%, personal loans that is used for personal items that do not generate income. A house, a car, furniture, a vacation are all items that generate no income for you.
A 200k house @1.0% interest would cost you about 920/mo for 20 yrs=200K
A 200K house @ 11% interest would cost you about 2050/mo =492K

Why should the builders get a 3% profit on a house after all their expenses are paid (including their own journeymen wages) and a banks makes 290K over 20 years for entering a few numbers into a spreadsheet that was paid for a long time ago?
If the builder took out a loan to build the house then he would have paid interest on that loan which would have been added to the price of the house.
BTW that 292K difference is money in your pocket over the 20 years which works out to about 1,000/mo.
The banks (all corporations) wouldn't go bust but their wages (and all of the others who make 500x more than 'normal') would drop to whatever the standard would be)
 

Kreskin

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You're living in a dream world. If money is printed and lent out for nothing then it isn't very valuable as a currency, is it? Any idea what the value of the Canadian Peso would be? Investment capital would be heading out the country's exit doors in a flash.
 

MHz

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Given the choice you should choose the loan that is interest free. Right now how much is spent on interest on Canada's national debt?
 

TenPenny

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Why should the builders get a 3% profit on a house after all their expenses are paid (including their own journeymen wages) and a banks makes 290K over 20 years for entering a few numbers into a spreadsheet that was paid for a long time ago?

For two reasons: if the banks didn't make a profit lending you money, they'd use it for something else where they would make money.
Second, they want to be compensated for the risk they take that you might not repay the loan. Risk = reward.

Most builders make a darn sight more than 3% profit - a typical homebuilder around here with any sense is making 15 - 25% profit. If you're not doing that, you need to go into a different business.
 

darkbeaver

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Are you characterising the entire industry by one fraudster? This is the way vicious gossip and rumours get started. For the benefit of your own credibility you should find other things to do. I'm not big on the pharmaceutical industry, but there's aspects of it that are essential to health and well being.

Credibility, there you have it , thats exactly what my speel is about, big pharma has none. Essential to health and well being? Every addict thinks the same thing. Now, as in the matter of personal perceptions of credibility. That is too often subjective, as in your case, defending big pharma drug murderers hardly qualifies you as credible. Read some of the history JLM. They don,t cure they hook, and you pay and pay and pay as your health deteriorates, now that,t just good business JLM. You don,t even need eyes to see that. Cancer is their finest product. Aids makes them horny, mental illness, bring it on, high blood pressure, a perrenial winner, there,s gold in them there veins. They don,t fix disease they farm it.
 

Cliffy

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You guys are all on the wrong thread. This is about Big Pharma. They are about as worthless as money, but that isn't the topic. What Mhz said is true. Do your homework and make your own medicine.
 

darkbeaver

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You're living in a dream world. If money is printed and lent out for nothing then it isn't very valuable as a currency, is it? Any idea what the value of the Canadian Peso would be? Investment capital would be heading out the country's exit doors in a flash.

Investment capital is this minute steaming away from American and western shores as fast as they can shovel the coal into the boilers. So you better have a new plan for us. And never mind fixing the old one, the damn thing never worked right, ever.