Coming from you that is hilarious Jack. I hope your not deeply offended. Any hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people.
just wondering about the governance of Canada ?
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Coming from you that is hilarious Jack. I hope your not deeply offended. Any hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people.
SirJosephPorter, the Belgian king was a despicable hypocrit and an inbred phony. If it had been for his beliefs, his abdication would have been permanent. If he is a Catholic, I might consider of becoming Muslim.
I repaet, I hope that NONE in the British Monarchy could be that hypocritical phoney.
I repaet, I hope that NONE in the British Monarchy could be that hypocritical phoney.
darlbeaver, thinking he was clever, opined:
"Coming from you that is hilarious Jack. I hope your not deeply offended. Any hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people."
I am by no means a fan of any Monarchy. I fully agree with you that hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people, but I'd like to add that it is even more so, the indication of the mental acuity of supporters thereof.
I only hoped that the representatives of British Monarchy are not quite as phony as hypocritical as the Belgians.
"Coming from you that is hilarious Jack. I hope your not deeply offended. Any hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people."
I am by no means a fan of any Monarchy. I fully agree with you that hereditary monarchy is an insult to free people, but I'd like to add that it is even more so, the indication of the mental acuity of supporters thereof.
I only hoped that the representatives of British Monarchy are not quite as phony as hypocritical as the Belgians.
There was nothing hypocritical about it, in a democracy, one must compromise. If he had abdicated permanently that would have been a hallmark of an extremist.
But I would think somebody who is as extremist and as pig headed as that would not abdicate in the first instance and precipitate a constitutional crises.
I think what he did was right and proper. He stood up for his beliefs. At the same time, he did not try to hold the country hostage, did not try to impose his religious beliefs on the rest of the country.
The Belgian monarchy "abdication" showed that monarchy is for show, there and in Canada. It provides little utility but it's not really that expensive, and people like it for irrational reasons. The show, and looks are important, especially in a small country like Belgium, where Belgians have an intimate knowledge of their royal family because they rub shoulders together on a daily basis. They share a living tradition in a way we can never with the British royal family.
The old English Canada that had the monarchy and military as key symbols are lost because the British empire has faded out of view in today's world. Knowledge of our govt is muddled in obscure theoretical details that may or may not apply in the real world. The GG suports multicultural agenda, and I say, so what.
The old English Canada that had the monarchy and military as key symbols are lost because the British empire has faded out of view in today's world. Knowledge of our govt is muddled in obscure theoretical details that may or may not apply in the real world. The GG suports multicultural agenda, and I say, so what.
The monarchy is indeed for show. It doesn’t have much utility, but it is tradition, and I don’t see any reason to get rid of it (especially since we cannot agree on an alternative).
I suspect if that ever happened in Canada then the post of GG would be very short-lived.
I don’t think it will ever happen in Canada, Bar. We don’t have the monarch; we have only a representative of the monarch. If he/she has a problem with legislation, the GG will simply resign.
With GG there is no question of abdicating, she is not the monarch. In fact, if the GG ever tries to act that stubborn, she may well get her knuckles wrapped by the Queen.
In Belgium the situation was much more serious, they were not dealing with a representative of the monarch, but the monarch himself.
Technically Canada is a Constitutional Monarchy and a Parliamentary Democracy.
The Queen of England is also the Queen of Canada (our head of state also known as "The Crown") Canada's legitimacy as a state is based on treaties and laws signed by the Crown. The Governor General (GG) is the Queen's representative in Canada. Below the GG is the Prime Minister (PM). The Queen and the GG's powers are mostly symbolic. However bills become laws after they are approved by Parliament (headed by the PM) and signed by the GG.
By tradition, the GG is appointed by the PM. In theory the GG could refuse to sign a bill into law, but the PM could replace her with a new appointment, so the PM with the support of Parliament is the real authority.
Currently our GG is a Haitian immigrant and former news personality. Some say she was appointed because she is French and female. Personally I think it was because she is "hot".
Stephan Harper of the Conservative Party of Canada became PM after the last election because at the time everyone hated the liberals and voted them out of office. Unfortunately, Harper is a George Bush clone puppet. The same people who pulled Bushes strings also pull Harper strings.
Reality, we don't have a democracy. We have a plutocracy where people with money and power can control what people know and therefore what they think and as a result who they elect. Each day Harper remains in power, Canada becomes more like the United States.
The Queen of England is also the Queen of Canada (our head of state also known as "The Crown") Canada's legitimacy as a state is based on treaties and laws signed by the Crown. The Governor General (GG) is the Queen's representative in Canada. Below the GG is the Prime Minister (PM). The Queen and the GG's powers are mostly symbolic. However bills become laws after they are approved by Parliament (headed by the PM) and signed by the GG.
By tradition, the GG is appointed by the PM. In theory the GG could refuse to sign a bill into law, but the PM could replace her with a new appointment, so the PM with the support of Parliament is the real authority.
Currently our GG is a Haitian immigrant and former news personality. Some say she was appointed because she is French and female. Personally I think it was because she is "hot".
Stephan Harper of the Conservative Party of Canada became PM after the last election because at the time everyone hated the liberals and voted them out of office. Unfortunately, Harper is a George Bush clone puppet. The same people who pulled Bushes strings also pull Harper strings.
Reality, we don't have a democracy. We have a plutocracy where people with money and power can control what people know and therefore what they think and as a result who they elect. Each day Harper remains in power, Canada becomes more like the United States.
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That's a plutarchy, not a plutocracy. Plutarchies are combos of oligarchy and plutocracy. Defined as a government controlled by the wealthy for the wealthy. What we have is a plutarchic government that is a slightly representative democracy.
Dark Beaver- Everything I've read about Jonas Salk and the Salk vaccine is contrary to what you say. See the following exerpt from Wikipedia
In 1954, the vaccine was tested at Arsenal Elementary School and the Watson Home for Children in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Salk's vaccine was then used in a test called the Francis Field Trial, led by Thomas Francis; the largest medical experiment in history. The test began with some 4,000 children at Franklin Sherman Elementary School in McLean, Virginia, and would eventually involve 1.8 million children, in 44 states from Maine to California.[21] By the conclusion of the study, roughly 440,000 received one or more injections of the vaccine, about 210,000 children received a placebo, consisting of harmless culture media, and 1.2 million children received no vaccination and served as a control group, who would then be observed to see if any contracted polio.[13] The results of the field trial were announced April 12, 1955 (the tenth anniversary of the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt; see Franklin D. Roosevelt's paralytic illness). The Salk vaccine had been 60 - 70% effective against PV1 (poliovirus type 1), over 90% effective against PV2 and PV3, and 94% effective against the development of bulbar polio.[22] Soon after Salk's vaccine was licensed in 1955 children's vaccination campaigns were launched. In the U.S, following a mass immunization campaign promoted by the March of Dimes, the annual number of polio cases fell to 5,600 by 1957.[23] By 1961 only 161 cases were recorded in the United States.[24]
In 1954, the vaccine was tested at Arsenal Elementary School and the Watson Home for Children in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Salk's vaccine was then used in a test called the Francis Field Trial, led by Thomas Francis; the largest medical experiment in history. The test began with some 4,000 children at Franklin Sherman Elementary School in McLean, Virginia, and would eventually involve 1.8 million children, in 44 states from Maine to California.[21] By the conclusion of the study, roughly 440,000 received one or more injections of the vaccine, about 210,000 children received a placebo, consisting of harmless culture media, and 1.2 million children received no vaccination and served as a control group, who would then be observed to see if any contracted polio.[13] The results of the field trial were announced April 12, 1955 (the tenth anniversary of the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt; see Franklin D. Roosevelt's paralytic illness). The Salk vaccine had been 60 - 70% effective against PV1 (poliovirus type 1), over 90% effective against PV2 and PV3, and 94% effective against the development of bulbar polio.[22] Soon after Salk's vaccine was licensed in 1955 children's vaccination campaigns were launched. In the U.S, following a mass immunization campaign promoted by the March of Dimes, the annual number of polio cases fell to 5,600 by 1957.[23] By 1961 only 161 cases were recorded in the United States.[24]
JLM, I'll bet you meant to put the above post (#52) over in that other thread about vaccines, right? Just tryin' to help out here...
Yep, God damned Alzheimers is acting up again. :lol::lol::lol: I'm fixing it now. Sorry.
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Oh, OK- I guess I just (wrongly) assumed that since I've found them correct about things I do know, they would also be correct about things I don't know. You learn something new every day. :smile: