You would not accept any proof, as deluded as you are....I mean, you are the one who decides what is a state or not, aren't you?????
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Israel - The Right to exist as a State?
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You would not accept any proof, as deluded as you are....I mean, you are the one who decides what is a state or not, aren't you?????
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Still nothing?
I know Goober has been working hard at it but I also know Goober isn't a sports fan who only wants to kill and uses 10 year old kid's excuse to do so.
I know Goober has been working hard at it but I also know Goober isn't a sports fan who only wants to kill and uses 10 year old kid's excuse to do so.
Tippy says your a pothead.
Is that pronounced p-aw-th-eed or poe-th-eed?
The Rasta Jews sure love their herbs.
They claim to be the true Jews.
Is their claim valid too if I believe hard enough?
Tippy is a respected member of our on line community, a true hero to the mentally challenged community. A poster person for all those who suffer spatial relations difficulties delusions of pedagogic might and the heeby jeebies. Zionists do not smoke pot. It would cure them. Noticky nolaundry. I hope that answers your inquiry.
Plotz and meshuggah faygala alter cocker spreading boobemyseh all over the place let me tell you!
Petros -
Have you been doing that Karnak the Magnificient -
How did you know I am not a sports fan???
Next - Archeology has proven that Isreal did exist - So why not leave it at that
DB - Petros - As our respected Cliffy would say - lets play nice now. - OK
You're too level headed to be sports fan and because you'll use logic, reason and still keep your cool.
I respect that a lot.
I am a towering beam of niceness irradiating the countryside for miles and miles.
DB
Well up the irradiating as it is dark in the West - though that could be politics in AB to.
After a little hoot - always pizza double pepperoni and extra cheese - MMMMMMMMMMMM Gooooood
Home made biscuits, hot from the over, slathered in butter and molasses. DDAAAAMMMM GGGGOOOOODDDDD
About Middle East Quarterly:
In other words a pro-American, anti-Islam hate group. Hardly an unbiased source of information, which probably explains many of your "opinions". I find remarks like this: "TOOOO Silly!!!:lol:" as childish. Are you interested in a serious debate, or are you going to lower yourself to the level of Canadian Bear and Goober?
I could get into the specifics of the Khadr case, but that's a side issue and threads on that topic already exist. But yes the remaining Khadrs in Canada could have their assets seized and or face prison terms if they raise money for al Qaeda or any "terrorist" organization. However, stating your opinion, even an unpopular one, is still legal in Canada. Its a concept called "Free Speech".
Back on topic:
Israel - The Right to exist as a State
Subcategory - Comparing Zionist Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine of Palestinians since 1947 with The Jewish Exodus from Muslim/Arab countries resulting from Zionist ethnic cleansing.
From 1948 onward, many Arab/Muslim countries were openly at war with Israel. From their viewpoint, supporting or financing Israel would be considered treasonous and viewed about the same as how the Canadian government would view supporting or financing a terrorist organization.
Many Arab/Muslim governments have laws which allows the state to seize the assets of citizens who openly support and finance enemy states including Israel. According to the wikipedia article I referenced previously, 90% Jews emigrating from these countries were able to sell their property first. Many of them ended up in Israel and those of military age served in the Israeli military. Many Arab/Muslim countries consider their actions treasonous and fellow citizens were about as hostile to Israeli supporters as Canadians are today regarding people who support the Taliban and al Qaeda.
Since Israel was a Jewish state, Arabs and Muslims tended to view all Jews as potential enemies. Its not that different than how many Canadians today tend to view all Muslims as potential enemies. Many of these countries have problems with corruption and ignorance which would have compounded the problem. Corrupt officials would have used the situation for personal benefit, while ignorant and hostile bigots harrassed and assaulted their Jewish neighbors. Clearly persecution and discrimination were factors for their emigration. But religious and economic factors were also important. In some cases, Jews immigrating to Israel were awarded Palestinian homes. Jews in Israel are entitled to live on land Israel has illegally seized from Palestinians (as per international laws regarding civilian rights during war and under occupation).
Palestine has been militarily conquered and occupied by a hostile entity. Civilians living under military occupation and refugees who flee wars have internationally recognized rights which protect their property from seizure and allow them to return home when the fighting ends. Israel's refusal to allow these people to return to their homes and their seizure of their homes, property, bank accounts... is illegal according to international law and contrary to the terms Israel agreed to in return for recognition as a state by the UN. Israel can and does violate these international laws treaties and conventions as well as those pertaining to war crimes and crimes against humanity. Canada should not unshakably support people and states that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
What happened to these Jews in many Arab/Muslim countries after the Zionists started their ethnic cleansing war was in many cases was wrong, but Palestinians weren't involved or responsible for what happened outside of Palestine.
Note: Iran is an example of a Muslim country which allowed Jewish citizens to immigrate to Israel freely until the Islamic Revolution in 1978-79. Since then, Iran has poor relations with Israel. Many Persian Jews chose to remain in Iran and officially they face little to no government harassment. I sure these people have to deal with ignorant bigots, but their minority rights are protected by Iranian law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews#Current_status_in_Iran
Regardless, I doubt Canada, which is a far more just and enlightened than all Arab and Muslim countries, would be more accomodating to Canadian citizens who wanted to sell their property, move to Afghanistan and fight along side the Taliban and al Qaeda against Canadian soldiers. Very likely the Canadian government would seize their assets and they would face imprisonment.
Any Jews who lost property unfairly or through corruption are entitled to compensation. But if they broke the laws of their country and committed acts of treason, then they have just as much to compensation as Canadians who have lost assets because they supported and financed terrorist organizations or Canadians who commit acts of treason.
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Jews who immigrated to Israel from Arab/Muslim countries did so for the same reasons why Jews immigrated to Israel from other countries:
1) Religious
2) Economic
3) Persecution
Jews who were able to sell their property and immigrate to Israel are not entitled to compensation.
Jews who broke their countries laws by committing acts of treason are not entitled to compensation.
IMO, only Jews who emigrated to avoid persecution and were unable to sell their property should be entitled to compensation and it doesn't matter where they ended up.
In most cases, Jews living in Arab/Muslim countries were not ethnically cleansed with a few exceptions. They were not fleeing civil war or a hostile invasion, like the Palestinians. In the case of Palestinians, those that remained behind risked rape, torture and murder. The majority who fled their homes did so out of legitimate fear for their personal safety. IMO, the two mass migrations are not the same, but they are related.
The status of Palestinian refugees is defined under international law. Their host countries are not obligated to grant them or their descendents citizenship. They are entitled to return home or recieve compensation from Israel. Its not only international law which supports this position, its also one of the terms Israel agreed to in return for UN recognition as a state.
Since Israel has not met the agreed terms for UN recognition, I'd say they have breached their UN obligations. They should be recognized as a state but because of their failure to meet their UN obligations, their war crimes and crimes against humanity, they should face international sanctions.
As far as Canada is concerned, our support for Israel should not be "unshakable" but depend on their behavior. Canada should not support countries or people who commit war crimes or crimes against humanity. We should universally oppose injustice and oppression.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...-israel-right-exist-state-25.html#post1217564
Jews who immigrated to Israel from Arab/Muslim countries did so for the same reasons why Jews immigrated to Israel from other countries:
1) Religious
2) Economic
3) Persecution
Jews who were able to sell their property and immigrate to Israel are not entitled to compensation.
Jews who broke their countries laws by committing acts of treason are not entitled to compensation.
IMO, only Jews who emigrated to avoid persecution and were unable to sell their property should be entitled to compensation and it doesn't matter where they ended up.
In most cases, Jews living in Arab/Muslim countries were not ethnically cleansed with a few exceptions. They were not fleeing civil war or a hostile invasion, like the Palestinians. In the case of Palestinians, those that remained behind risked rape, torture and murder. The majority who fled their homes did so out of legitimate fear for their personal safety. IMO, the two mass migrations are not the same, but they are related.
The status of Palestinian refugees is defined under international law. Their host countries are not obligated to grant them or their descendents citizenship. They are entitled to return home or recieve compensation from Israel. Its not only international law which supports this position, its also one of the terms Israel agreed to in return for UN recognition as a state.
Since Israel has not met the agreed terms for UN recognition, I'd say they have breached their UN obligations. They should be recognized as a state but because of their failure to meet their UN obligations, their war crimes and crimes against humanity, they should face international sanctions.
As far as Canada is concerned, our support for Israel should not be "unshakable" but depend on their behavior. Canada should not support countries or people who commit war crimes or crimes against humanity. We should universally oppose injustice and oppression.
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Time to change direction a little. This will help solve the situation, what I would do.
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No, they do not. The supporters of Israel will not let that happen. Plus Israel leads the world in % of scientists that actually create useful technology that help humanity.
I will post this again as I had no replies -
Open question
I see The statement by Canaduh as clearly Racist -
Am I wrong, right or prejudiced?
CanaduhYour quote "the fact they dont own the media like the jews do. Every time the Israels do something or someone speaks out against them they play the holocaust get out of jail free card".
Open question
I see The statement by Canaduh as clearly Racist -
Am I wrong, right or prejudiced?
CanaduhYour quote "the fact they dont own the media like the jews do. Every time the Israels do something or someone speaks out against them they play the holocaust get out of jail free card".