Can muslims be good canadians?
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I agree, that probably 90% or better Christians and Muslims do not fall into the category of 'Good". As soon as you change something in your religion to accommodate others you cease to be a good devoted believer.. Reworded I could ask would a Ultra Right wing Muslim be a good Canadian, and the answer would be the same for a Ultra Right wing Christian or anything. No.
So in order to be a good Catholic do you have to never wear a rubber?
Btw, the title of the article doesn't say "GOOD MUSLIM".
My neighbours believe in Allah...they don't believe in doctrine passed down from ancient story tellers. Many Christians could be described with the same circumstance.
The OP doesn't specify practicing or not, and it's irrelevant anyways.
People will identify with whatever religion or belief system they like, whether or not they are a "true _______" or not. Just because they drink beer does not mean they are not Muslims. This is a fallacy, known as the No true Scotsman.
No, the question is why would they not belong in the West? There's a huge difference. If you want to exclude a group of people from immigration, then you have to have a reasoned answer.
A lovely insulting sidestep there, which amounts to an attempt to avoid the question.......
A large Muslim minority is changing the very nature of Europe.....and NOT for the better.
Face it, deal with it, debate it.....childishness accomplishes nothing.
Still not the title of the thread and answer my other question about catholics please.
Curious, since you are a missionary what faith do you practice?
Do you follow it to the letter?
If not, does that make you not "GOOD."
I know many Muslims, have celebrated ramadan with them and have never witnessed any of them being un-Canadian.....good partiers actually.
So tell me again what do muslims here have to do with what goes on in the middle east?
Can a good Muslim be a good Canadian?
Now, who decided that the only good Muslim is a Fundamentalist, Wahabi style Muslim who takes each and every saying given in Koran literally? It is the Fundamentalist Christian nutbars who decide that.
Religious right has a preconceived notion of what a Muslim is. A Muslim is someone who has four wives, who keeps his wives in a veil, who kills his own daughter if she dishonors the family name. who hates Christians, Jews with a passion, who will kill somebody in an instant if he disagrees with him etc.
This is a circular definition. If a Muslim does not behave this way, they consider him not to be a good Muslim. If he fulfills these criteria (Mohammed Atta, Osama Ben Laden, Mullah Mohammed Omar etc.), religious right considers them to be good Muslims.
And then they can proclaim self righteously that no, a good Muslim cannot be a good Canadian.
But what about a good Christian? Some posters have already alluded to that, I am going to look at it in more detail, if a ‘good’ Christian can be a good Canadian.
Now, who decided that the only good Muslim is a Fundamentalist, Wahabi style Muslim who takes each and every saying given in Koran literally? It is the Fundamentalist Christian nutbars who decide that.
Religious right has a preconceived notion of what a Muslim is. A Muslim is someone who has four wives, who keeps his wives in a veil, who kills his own daughter if she dishonors the family name. who hates Christians, Jews with a passion, who will kill somebody in an instant if he disagrees with him etc.
This is a circular definition. If a Muslim does not behave this way, they consider him not to be a good Muslim. If he fulfills these criteria (Mohammed Atta, Osama Ben Laden, Mullah Mohammed Omar etc.), religious right considers them to be good Muslims.
And then they can proclaim self righteously that no, a good Muslim cannot be a good Canadian.
But what about a good Christian? Some posters have already alluded to that, I am going to look at it in more detail, if a ‘good’ Christian can be a good Canadian.
"Can Zionists be good Canadians? Are Zionists good for anything?"
Can Communists be good Canadians? Are Communists good for anything?
Can Socialists be good Canadians? Are Socialists good for anything?
Can Liberals/liberals be good Canadians? Are Liberals/liberals good for anything?
Can Atheists be good Canadians? Are Atheists good for anything?
I could go on but what for? The silliness of your (hopefully) rhetorical question has been amply displayed.
However, none of the above are guided by a book (with the possible exception of Communists with Das Kapital) like the poison of Quoran.
Can Communists be good Canadians? Are Communists good for anything?
Can Socialists be good Canadians? Are Socialists good for anything?
Can Liberals/liberals be good Canadians? Are Liberals/liberals good for anything?
Can Atheists be good Canadians? Are Atheists good for anything?
I could go on but what for? The silliness of your (hopefully) rhetorical question has been amply displayed.
However, none of the above are guided by a book (with the possible exception of Communists with Das Kapital) like the poison of Quoran.
No problem....you can believe in any god you please, and I don't care. welcome! The question was "good" Muslim.......and no, if you force your women into the chador, if you wish to practise polygamy, if you do not accept freedom of speech, and my right to denigrate Islam as part of that freedom, if you can't deal with the excesses of a free nation when it comes to sex, or homosexuality, if you hate Jews, if your belief in Muslim solidarity means you value "Palestine" more than Canada, if you dare to dream of bringing your wars to Canada, if you want to haul Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant before HRCs.....then I want you to get the hell out.
In fact, I don't want you to be allowed in!!!!
Just a question. I set the criteria, maybe not clear enough though. SJP cleared it up. "only good Muslim is a Fundamentalist" Want to bring Christians into it, ok. Fundamentalist Christians also. Most other major religions have way more room for intolerance. Can they be true to their beliefs and the constitution.
People I know don't interpret the Quran this way and don't consider it needed to be a good Mulsim as do many other reigions who answer to some sort of fairytale or another.
This thread is shrouded in bigotry.
A tiny Zionists minority has changed the nature of Canada and the world for the continuation of one tiny war mongering country, Israel, and we are asked what we think about the targeted minority that have been victimized for fifty years. If Islam and common sense do not change us we will cease to exist as we thought to, as Canadians. We have become Canadian poodles of the Zionist crime monolith.