Yep. Out of the billions of other solar systems out there, the odds would be in favor of more life that is "intelligent" than just here on Earth.
Are aliens out there? Heavens, I hope so!
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Ha, ha...good point. I think we might still have some, but at times it looks like it's beginning to be heading for extinction.
In case you didn't notice, I did put quotations on either end of the word "intelligent", implying that it's a relative term.
Yes you did, actually, you made a post saying your credulity had been impugned, followed by a link to another UFO report, implying you think credibility and credulity mean the same thing. There were no smilies or other evidence in it to indicate otherwise. My sense of humour is just fine, and frankly I think people who buy the UFO mythology are laughable.
I don't use smilies. I figure people are smart enough to figure out when something is said in jest without them. And, you know, 99% are!
My great grandfather and you would have got on fine Dex. He poopooed aircraft and machine guns and electric lights, the first parlor radio in his small fishing community, according to my grandfather, frightened the life out of great grand dad.
That link goes to Library and Archives Canada with I guess must be the "official last word" on this incident. One of the links on that site is an official Department of Nations Defence letter - the past paragraph states, "Both DND and RCMP investigation teams were unable to provide evidence which would dispute Mr. Michalak's story."
I found the choice of words to be interesting...it makes me think that the objective of the investigations was to show that he was making it all up. And that seems to be consistent with most of the information I've seen on UFO investigations, at least in the U.S. and Canada. In this case, the case was branded as "unsolved." At least they admitted they couldn't figure what Mr. Michalak had seen or experienced.
When I think about the many (thousands?) of UFO sightings and experiences that have been reported over the past 50+ years, I wonder what would motivate people to come forth with these "stories", in light of the ridicule many of them have had to endure. Of course, there have been some deliberate hoaxes, but ALL of them?
And, I still wonder why the "official" positions seem to be so adamantly stacked against the possibility that there could be extraterrestrial visits happening? We seem to spend a lot of time, money, and effort on other mysteries and scientific endeavours. Why would this one be any different? Makes me wonder...
If you look at a Rand McNally Road map book, go to New Mexico and west of Roswell you will see the White Sands Missile testing grounds on the air force base there. In the middle of it you will see a square in red or orange with the title "White Sand Space Harbor". What is a harbour doing out in the middle of a desert? And what is a harbor if not a point of trade?
I believe you will find a space harbor in Arizona too.
I believe you will find a space harbor in Arizona too.
The least improbable explanation is that these things are artificial and controlled. . .my opinion for some time has been that they have an extraterrestrial origin."
-Dr. Maurice Biot, aerodynamicist and mathematical physicist.
-Dr. Maurice Biot, aerodynamicist and mathematical physicist.
If it's not within 400 to 700 nm, it ain't worth seeing. He was standing right there then stepped behind a Fruanhofer line and I haven't seen him since.
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4900
This link goes to a story entitled: "UFOs: Biggest Cover-up in History." Very interesting, in that Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Defence Minister is referenced.
This link goes to a story entitled: "UFOs: Biggest Cover-up in History." Very interesting, in that Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Defence Minister is referenced.
Ran across another link that talks about an old Canadian government cover-up of UFOs. Link is: Exclusive: Secret Canadian Government Documents show US/CA UFO Coverup
Does intelligent life exist out there? We don’t know for sure, but the probability is very high that there are hundreds of thousands of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy alone (and universe has many galaxies).
So to that question, we can answer unequivocally, yes (it is an intelligent speculation, of course). As to UFOs, that is total nonsense.
Presumably UFO enthusiasts (or UFO nuts) claim that UFOs are spacecrafts belonging to intelligent civilizations. Then the question arises, if they are going to spend all that money, all that time to come to earth, why wouldn’t they land near the White House, Kremlin or Buckingham palace and make themselves known to humanity? Where is the point in skulking about in dark, deserted areas?
UFO nuts have been at it for a long time. I remember Project Blue Book in the 60s, which came to conclusion that there is nothing to the UFO nonsense. That didn’t stop the UFO enthusiasts of course (I don’t think anything will).
So to that question, we can answer unequivocally, yes (it is an intelligent speculation, of course). As to UFOs, that is total nonsense.
Presumably UFO enthusiasts (or UFO nuts) claim that UFOs are spacecrafts belonging to intelligent civilizations. Then the question arises, if they are going to spend all that money, all that time to come to earth, why wouldn’t they land near the White House, Kremlin or Buckingham palace and make themselves known to humanity? Where is the point in skulking about in dark, deserted areas?
UFO nuts have been at it for a long time. I remember Project Blue Book in the 60s, which came to conclusion that there is nothing to the UFO nonsense. That didn’t stop the UFO enthusiasts of course (I don’t think anything will).
If that was the objective of the investigation (that he was making it all up), that was the wrong objective. How can you prove something like that?
When it comes to UFOs we must look at the burden of proof. UFO enthusiasts make an outrageous claim (that earth is being repeatedly visited by intelligent, alien civilizations). So it is up to them to prove their claims, it is not up to the scientists to debunk them.
The reason for that is simple, countryboy. We are all subject to hallucinations; many times we are unable to interpret what we see, especially at night in the sky. Even educated people are prone to that. That is why you see UFO sightings by pilots, scientists etc.
That doesn’t mean that there is anything to them. An analogous example would be a magician performing magic tricks. We all get fooled by the magician. Even intelligent, educated people get fooled. Does that mean that there is something to the magic? Of course not.
It the same with UFOs. Our eyes, our vision, our brain plays tricks on us, it happens to the best of us.
Again, if there is anything to the UFO business, let the UFO enthusiast prove their claim (by producing body part of a creature not known to biology, or by producing a metal or construction material unknown to modern science etc.)