The devotion to God alone
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Nah, not really discimination, he's just got this mindset about categorising that's rock solid and about 90% wrong 99% of the time.
I know lots of women that drink beer and lots of men (that's REAL men, not Sir Joke's sort) that drink wine.
But anyway, I haven't found anything about gods to be "almighty". But then, I haven't found any gods so it's kind of moot.
There's about as much evidence for the universe needing a creator as there are creators: absolutely none. All there is is talk and that's cheap.
That is a circular argument, eanassir. God is the creator of universe. Universe exists, so God exists. Logically that argument is nonsense. I think you once claimed that you are a doctor, surely you should realize that.
Anyway, let me make a counterargument. Easter Bunny created the universe. The universe exists, so Easter Bunny exists.
Potty simply cannot allow anyone to have a thought independent from his own. A real liberal, eh?
I'm easy to get along with but I need to see some proof- like maybe some initials and a date in a rock somewhere.
So was the Creator a God or a big explosive collapse of a previous universe? There is a very good possibility your God may not be the same as your neighbour's God.
This isn't any circular argument; and your example is not related.
On the contrary: you deny the simple fact that the universe was created and did not come to existence spontaneously; because this is impossible, whatever decorated words the atheists may speak.
No action without any doer and no thing is made without any maker, and no result without a cause, and no order without any reason.
Dear E a nassir,
I am sure you claim that God has always existed.
If He always existed, then he waited forever to create the universe.
Contradiction.
As always,
spade
I am sure you claim that God has always existed.
If He always existed, then he waited forever to create the universe.
Contradiction.
As always,
spade
Then I am among good company because I have read neither.
Let them save you in the afterlife
God created the matter from the ether which consists of very minute particles: very much smaller than the matter particles.
The ether fills the space, the planets move in their orbits in this ether; the ether particles form the spirit and the spiritual world.
The Universe and the Quran
That is what the scientists say. The cause is big bang, and not some anthropomorphic God. When it comes to science, I would much rather believe the scientists than believe Fundamentalist extremists of whatever persuasion, Christian or Muslim.
Ether? You can’t be serious. The scientists rejected the concept of ether a long time ago. Are you seriously maintaining that ether exists?
If you do, that makes you truly religious all right.
Then I suppose you also believe in phlogiston, the Philosopher’s Stone and other Middle age scientific concepts.
You have to be careful there, scientists have been "updating" their ideas and conclusions for thousands of years, so it's going to take a bit of convincing that they just happen to have it right at this exact point in time.
I have said that many times JLM, but that doesn't mean
I can allow myself to believe that 'possibly' it was
some type of god, as that is so far fetched in my mind,
that it embarrasses me to allow myself to go there,(that
is no different than allowing myself to be open to the
thought of a tooth fairy, or an easter bunny or santa clause.)
I do believe it is some kind of scientific answer, but 'of course' we don't know what answer that is.
Where / when / how was God born? ...created?
It doesn't matter in what or whom you choose to believe. Faith is all personal preference and opinion. Thus, yours or mine, it can be neither right nor wrong. Is an abstract concept really worth dying over?