Fat Kids
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Yup. In spite of societal pressures for convenience and consuming goods, people can still eat healthily.
yes, eggs have had a bad rap, I stopped eating egg yolks
for a while because my cholestrol was elevated, then after
a while learned that the whole egg is healthy, no need to
dismiss the yolk, in fact we all are dismissing too much
saturated fats, we need some each day, but not trans fat.
If you want to call Frankenfoods, irradiated foods, tasteless foods, etc. healthy, I suppose you could call it healthy. Quality wise, that stuff sucks, though.
Eggs were bad, now they're good. Bread was good, then it was bad, then it was good again. Smoked meat causes cancer ... then it didn't. Coffee was bad, then it's good. Wine was bad ... then it's good.... Butter was good, then bad, then good again. Margarine was good, now it's bad ... unless it's Becel.... Maybe if we had a few less scientists mucking with the menu, McDonalds wouldn't look like such an alternative
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Here I disagree with you, countryboy. Egg white is very healthy, rich in proteins, low in calories, no fat. The egg yolk on the other hand, while it does contain proteins, also contains fat and is one of the richest source of cholesterol known to humankind. Nutritionists recommend not eating more than say ten eggs per week, and that is because of the cholesterol in egg yolk. If you only eat the whites, you may eat six eggs a day and no harm done.
And you found egg white omelet tasteless probably because it was not prepared properly. And there is no way it was lacking in overall nutrition. As I said, egg white is nutrition and nothing else. Egg yolk is nutrition plus fat plus a big wallop of cholesterol.
Wait till you are in the loo and see one of the employees leave without washing hands.
Your right CB.. My Dad, when he and I were young, used to drink an egg in milk.
Later in life I did the same but gave it up when all heck broke lose on eggs being bad for you..
You broke an egg in a glass of milk and stirred it up.. The first time you drank it it was not that great to taste but sure did the job for a fast breakfast..
Ever hear or try it ?
lone wolf, I could not agree with you more:
"Eggs were bad, now they're good. Bread was good, then it was bad, then it was good again. Smoked meat causes cancer ... then it didn't. Coffee was bad, then it's good. Wine was bad ... then it's good.... Maybe if we had a few less scientists mucking with the menu, McDonalds wouldn't look like such an alternative."
In our fast-paced world scientists (real or just politically correct) know that it is the matter of "Publish or Perish".
So, if the current conventional says that eggs are bad, they will publish a "study", "proving" that eggs are good. Or butter. Or bread. Or red meat. Or any number of other foods.
No doubt, sometimes in the future McDonalds will be fully exonerated.
"Eggs were bad, now they're good. Bread was good, then it was bad, then it was good again. Smoked meat causes cancer ... then it didn't. Coffee was bad, then it's good. Wine was bad ... then it's good.... Maybe if we had a few less scientists mucking with the menu, McDonalds wouldn't look like such an alternative."
In our fast-paced world scientists (real or just politically correct) know that it is the matter of "Publish or Perish".
So, if the current conventional says that eggs are bad, they will publish a "study", "proving" that eggs are good. Or butter. Or bread. Or red meat. Or any number of other foods.
No doubt, sometimes in the future McDonalds will be fully exonerated.
Yeah, my Dad remembers eating at restaurants that used to have their own gardens out back, and some even had their own livestock.
I have yet to have someone tell me that McDonald's and the others use real healthy foods in their restaurants. I am almost positive that what they have in their salads is irradiated or GE-ed for something, or both. I'll pass, I love nature too much to mess with what it offers (except hybridising it).
Yes LW, we hear that all the time.. To TenPenny point of moderation comes good advice..
If we were to live by these statements we would die of stress alone..
I think the knowledge is already available, I assume they do teach courses in nutrition in high school (if they don’t you are right, they ought to). The problem is putting the knowledge into practice, that is easier said than done.
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"If the information is wrong, I couldn’t care less."
That may be the reason why we have Fat Kids. Perhaps we're assuming that because the breakfast cereal box says "healthy" or "contains fruit" or other such nonsense, we think we're eatin' good.
I mentioned in earlier posts that "education" might be the key to the whole thing. And before we all jump to conclusions about what I mean by that, I am NOT talking about lecturing fat people on the need to eat less and exercise more.
What I am talking about is taking this entire subject of food, sorting it all out right down to the basics, and then coming up with a way to get the message across about how eating has a direct impact on health, not just weight gain or loss, although that's one of the indicators that something might be going wrong.
It's hard for the average consumer - who is busy and has little time to shop, cook, or read exhaustive articles on nutrition - to understand this "you are what you eat" thing. Add to that all the low fat, low carb, low this, low that, advertising that comes our way every day and you have a recipe for disaster. Misinformation and far too much of it is a bad thing.
So, I'm saying the challenge is to get the message (you are what you eat) across in a way that works. I am making the assumption that most people are smart and will respond to that "message", if it's created and presented effectively. The creating and presenting is the hard part though...I don't have the magic answers but they're out there somewhere.
A good start might be to include a basic course on it in elementary school and continue it right through high school. "Spaced repetition" works, if it's done in an interesting way. It's just one thought...
we are the opposite here, I can lose weight as soon as I
serve myself smaller portions, where my husband (italian)
holds his fat longer, that's just how people are, but it
still remains that the portions must be smaller if one is
to lose weight/size, weight doesn't necessarily come down
if you are eating less and excercising, as size can come
down considerably, but one is gaining muscle, which is
heavier than fat. He will get smaller eventually, he
needs to move around more, he isn't one to do that, unless
he is doing something he enjoys, but it won't be planned
excercise, but he will walk up on the mountain while hunting, or walk while golfing, but won't walk for 'nothing'. I love to walk long distances.
There is no other way to get smaller and lose weight than
eating less, eating better and excercising, so people must zero in on that concept, instead of dancing around it.
And, if people are eating because of 'other' problems in
their lives, it still comes down to the fact, that eventually when they decide to address their weight problem
the must eat less, eat right and excercise.
Moving the body by doing something vigorous, makes the
mind happier, once a person gets past their own hatred of
doing 'something' to care for their bodies.
Oh sure. In fact, it was a great recipe for a "morning after" drink if one had a nasty hangover. We used to stir a raw egg into a glass of tomato juice back in the country and just "drink 'er down"...it worked (if you could keep it down!)...
It's not unusual in Japan for people to drink/eat a raw egg or two if they're feeling a bit "poorly." They believe that eggs really are "nature's perfect food" but they haven't been as bombarded with all the "yes, they're good" and "no, they're not" studies that we have seen over the years. Here's hoping they never do.
By the way, an interesting tidbit...eggs sold in supermarkets in Japan are never refrigerated. They see no need for it, as it comes in its own protective container...the shell.
CB, it maybe hard for the average consumer to do all those things but when your life or your child's life depends on it, you do it..
Reading the "ingredients table" is not harder or time consuming then reading the "Healthy" logo and blabber on the front..
Like I said earlier I read all those now and still get all my shopping done in the same time I used to.. It's all in what priority you look at life with.. Also, after a few times of looking at the tables, you get to know which is healthier and need not look so often..
Education is key and always has been.. If people think they came out of school and had learned everything they had fooled themselves.. I don't think there is any aspect in life that we need not keep educating ourselves..
Your post is the easiest to respond to. It's to the point. Lots of eggs are not the best thing for you. Like anything, they are fine in moderation. I don't like them much anyway. However, one egg yolk contains about 7 - 8 grams of fat so for a woman, eating two eggs (whole) in a day is almost the full fat count one should have. All vinegar does to an egg is make the whites very white. Bread is good too providing it's whole grain and again - moderation! I've watched my hubby eat 6 slices in one sitting. The mere thought makes me gag. I hate lunch meat (smoked meat). I like coffee - up to two cups each morning. No more. Hate wine. Rarely eat butter or margarine unless it's cooked into something. MacDonald's an alternative? If it was the only place to eat as we passed through a town. Can't stand the smell of A & W, food at BK is gross as well. We do go to Wendy's now and again but there are times (like now) that even the thought is UGH! Bad home food is things that are easy like a grilled cheese sandwich. Might as well go to Rotten Ronnie's. Not too bad is a poached egg on dry toast. But not daily. (add the vinegar to the water and it turns the white of the egg to snow white).