The 2010 Charade (Winter Olympics)

AnnaG

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Speaking of taxes, what of all the taxes that we'll gain from the tourists' dollars? Why, they'll be spent maintaining everything that it cost us to build for the Olympics in the first place. All by itself, Montreal's dome cost $600K/year to maintain.
 

gerryh

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Feb 28, 2006 is when Vancouver got the Olympic flag. But before that,

The NDP were governing from '91 till '98, I think. Maybe a little longer.


The NDP were in power untill the summer of 2001......I got the hell out of BC as soon as the election showed the crook campbell and his henchmen had won.
 

AnnaG

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I can certainly understand that Gerry. Good for you. But, I can also understand why people and businesses scooted out of BC when Clark and Harcourt were the big cheeses.
As for our excuse for staying? We love it here in the Kootenays. It's beautiful. (I should post some pics)
 

Mowich

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There's nothing like watching spoiled privilaged clowns beating the clocks for kicks while the planet falls into ruin at the hands of the filthy bankers. The olympics should be banned forever as the giant obscene spectacle that it is. Who gives a **** if you can ski fast?

DB, not all of our Canadian atheletes are spoiled or privileged. Many of them come from lower middle-class backgrounds from little towns all across our country.

I was totally against holding the Olympics when the subject first was raised. Living in the Interior of BC, as I do, we will not see so much as $1 dollar of benefits via the Olympics.

That said, and faced with the fact that we are stuck with them now, I will be supporting our Canadian atheletes all the way. It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them.

But then, that's just my opinion.
 

AnnaG

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DB, not all of our Canadian atheletes are spoiled or privileged. Many of them come from lower middle-class backgrounds from little towns all across our country.

I was totally against holding the Olympics when the subject first was raised. Living in the Interior of BC, as I do, we will not see so much as $1 dollar of benefits via the Olympics.

That said, and faced with the fact that we are stuck with them now, I will be supporting our Canadian atheletes all the way. It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them.

But then, that's just my opinion.
Yup. It isn't like we can turn it all off now, might as well just keep giving the appropriate people the dirty looks and make the best job of it as possible.
Canada is nothing in its attention to its athletes in comparison to the USA, China, some European countries. I here evidence of Canuck athletes needing this, that, and the other thing a lot (in spite of the fact that they're supposed to be funded by the lottery proceeds) and never hear of Yanks needing anything.
 

Mowich

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Yup. It isn't like we can turn it all off now, might as well just keep giving the appropriate people the dirty looks and make the best job of it as possible.
Canada is nothing in its attention to its athletes in comparison to the USA, China, some European countries. I here evidence of Canuck athletes needing this, that, and the other thing a lot (in spite of the fact that they're supposed to be funded by the lottery proceeds) and never hear of Yanks needing anything.


Had to laugh a couple of weeks ago as I watched the Colbert show (I think he secretly likes Canada as he brings us up a lot). He was going on about US speed skaters not getting as much ice time as they wanted, not true as it turns out but it led to Richmond inviting him to be the unofficial ombudsman for the speed skating oval. Probably what he wanted in the first place.

The person deserving of most of those dirty looks, our own 'inglorious bastard' Campbell, will more than likely resign right after the last medal has been awarded in order to avoid all the flack that is sure to result when the financial numbers start rolling in, IMHO. :angryfire:
 

AnnaG

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Had to laugh a couple of weeks ago as I watched the Colbert show (I think he secretly likes Canada as he brings us up a lot). He was going on about US speed skaters not getting as much ice time as they wanted, not true as it turns out but it led to Richmond inviting him to be the unofficial ombudsman for the speed skating oval. Probably what he wanted in the first place.
Yeah, he's pretty good at pretending to be those he's actually mocking. lol

The person deserving of most of those dirty looks, our own 'inglorious bastard' Campbell, will more than likely resign right after the last medal has been awarded in order to avoid all the flack that is sure to result when the financial numbers start rolling in, IMHO. :angryfire:
And that other "inglorious bastard" that applied for the Olys in the first place, Glen Cluck. Dippers got us into it and Gliberals make it worse.
 

Risus

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Having an international event in a Canadian city is never a waste of time.

Toronto could have had an international event but because of Bread Not Circuses who took the bread out of the poor people's mouth Toronto lost out.

Why put the city into debt over the damn Olympics??
 

JLM

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Why put the city into debt over the damn Olympics??

While it was a good subject for ridicule at one time, it's a little late now to be begroaning the Olympics.............what I'm praying for now is a large miracle that they will be a success, & if I have to be wrong once or twice in my life, let this be one of the times. AS far as having an international event in a Canadian city never being a waste of time, we all know that's a crock. Just check out Montreal 1967 and Monteal 1976 for starters.
 

darkbeaver

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DB, not all of our Canadian atheletes are spoiled or privileged. Many of them come from lower middle-class backgrounds from little towns all across our country.

I was totally against holding the Olympics when the subject first was raised. Living in the Interior of BC, as I do, we will not see so much as $1 dollar of benefits via the Olympics.

That said, and faced with the fact that we are stuck with them now, I will be supporting our Canadian atheletes all the way. It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them.

But then, that's just my opinion.


"It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them."

And what bloody use is it to the world and the people who live on it? Do they build? Do they invent? Do they create? Do they discover? Do they give to the poor? Do they save kittens? What what what bloody good are you because you can fly down a hill on barrel staves faster than the next idiot on barrel staves. They contribute to nothing but the circus specticle that passes too easily in todays fuzzy wuzzy world for accomplishment which itself passes for worth when it is quite plainly more valueless entertainment. Don't expect me to applaud people who throw away courage tenacity endurance passion and inner strengh to become a statistical success. You and I both know that on this planet right now on every continent there are millions of people who display the same virtuous characteristics every day just trying to feed themselves or save there familys. So when will we ever find the time to gaze in awe at those real life accomplishments when these spoiled deluded pups plug the media with the same old tunes and the same tricks. I don't care where they come from it's what they waste that makes the difference. And that is just my opinion, I'm pretty sure it's mine, yes it is. All I can say to them is "break a leg". They all do drugs anyway steroid junkies everyone of them I bet.

:smile:
 

Mowich

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"It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them."

And what bloody use is it to the world and the people who live on it? Do they build? Do they invent? Do they create? Do they discover? Do they give to the poor? Do they save kittens? What what what bloody good are you because you can fly down a hill on barrel staves faster than the next idiot on barrel staves. They contribute to nothing but the circus specticle that passes too easily in todays fuzzy wuzzy world for accomplishment which itself passes for worth when it is quite plainly more valueless entertainment. Don't expect me to applaud people who throw away courage tenacity endurance passion and inner strengh to become a statistical success. You and I both know that on this planet right now on every continent there are millions of people who display the same virtuous characteristics every day just trying to feed themselves or save there familys. So when will we ever find the time to gaze in awe at those real life accomplishments when these spoiled deluded pups plug the media with the same old tunes and the same tricks. I don't care where they come from it's what they waste that makes the difference. And that is just my opinion, I'm pretty sure it's mine, yes it is. All I can say to them is "break a leg". They all do drugs anyway steroid junkies everyone of them I bet.

:smile:

Sheesh, DB, what in heaven’s name do you think our athletes do once they are past competition age in their sport – drop off the face of the earth. Most of them go on to contribute in all kinds of way to the betterment of Canadian society. Do you know for a fact that they don’t save kittens or contribute to the poor? NO, as a matter of fact you don’t.

I don’t expect you to change your mind and start applauding our Canadian athletes, DB. I am simply standing up and being counted as one who supports and looks forward to the Olympics.

I take nothing away from people around the world struggling to simply put food on the table or a roof over their heads by supporting our Canadian athletes.

And speaking of people in poor countries, there are several organizations who along with helping the poor also promote sports for the simple reason that it gives those poor kids maybe the only real enjoyment they have in their lives. It also teaches them the value of sportsmanship and teamwork. Before you condemn athletes maybe you should go and talk to some of the runners and sprinters (as an example) from third world countries who through sports were able to rise above their circumstances and compete at world level. I am sure they would have a very different take on the Olympics then do you.

Actually, judging by your vehement attitude towards Olympics, one might think that you had once been a competitor but simply failed to make the final cut. ;-)
 

JLM

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"It takes courage, tenacity, endurance, passion, and inner strengh to become a world class athelete and I for one, applaud them."

And what bloody use is it to the world and the people who live on it? Do they build? Do they invent? Do they create? Do they discover? Do they give to the poor? Do they save kittens? What what what bloody good are you because you can fly down a hill on barrel staves faster than the next idiot on barrel staves. They contribute to nothing but the circus specticle that passes too easily in todays fuzzy wuzzy world for accomplishment which itself passes for worth when it is quite plainly more valueless entertainment. Don't expect me to applaud people who throw away courage tenacity endurance passion and inner strengh to become a statistical success. You and I both know that on this planet right now on every continent there are millions of people who display the same virtuous characteristics every day just trying to feed themselves or save there familys. So when will we ever find the time to gaze in awe at those real life accomplishments when these spoiled deluded pups plug the media with the same old tunes and the same tricks. I don't care where they come from it's what they waste that makes the difference. And that is just my opinion, I'm pretty sure it's mine, yes it is. All I can say to them is "break a leg". They all do drugs anyway steroid junkies everyone of them I bet.

:smile:


Ooooooooh oooooooooh ooooooooh, not quite so fast. For one thing (being in excellent physical shape) possibly cost the public purse about $50,000 less in a life time on medications and operations. They are also consumers buying equipment and eating lots of food, which all creates employment. Some of them also contribute to worthy causes like helping handicapped children. Don't be in too big a rush to sell them short.
 

Risus

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While it was a good subject for ridicule at one time, it's a little late now to be begroaning the Olympics.............what I'm praying for now is a large miracle that they will be a success, & if I have to be wrong once or twice in my life, let this be one of the times. AS far as having an international event in a Canadian city never being a waste of time, we all know that's a crock. Just check out Montreal 1967 and Monteal 1976 for starters.

Yep, Montreal really went into debt over the '76 games....
 

Walter

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The torch is coming through here this week. Yawn. I like watching the objective sports but I dislike all the commnetary.
 

jjaycee98

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Relocation and recovery would mean far less jobs and big salaries for the people employed as Social workers and councillors. Jobs go begging in all sorts of small communities where these folks may actually get their lives back on track and become members of the society of productive citizens.

The Calgary Olympics are still giving value to the City. The Olympic Oval is a great place to take the family skating as well as also having Ice for Hockey and Figure Skating Lessons. The Gymnasium is used constantly both summer & Winter. Cross country skiing, the Ski Jump and the Luge track are all used by ordinary people who enjoy the excersize as well as a place to train for athletes from Canada and abroad.

This is the same old saw...if it does not benefit me personally then no one else should have it either. Yes we have to take care of those who really need our help. We do not need to enable those addicted to laziness and the scam artists that are lining their pockets while giving the appearance of being virtuous.
 

darkbeaver

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Sheesh, DB, what in heaven’s name do you think our athletes do once they are past competition age in their sport – drop off the face of the earth. Most of them go on to contribute in all kinds of way to the betterment of Canadian society. Do you know for a fact that they don’t save kittens or contribute to the poor? NO, as a matter of fact you don’t.

I don’t expect you to change your mind and start applauding our Canadian athletes, DB. I am simply standing up and being counted as one who supports and looks forward to the Olympics.

I take nothing away from people around the world struggling to simply put food on the table or a roof over their heads by supporting our Canadian athletes.

And speaking of people in poor countries, there are several organizations who along with helping the poor also promote sports for the simple reason that it gives those poor kids maybe the only real enjoyment they have in their lives. It also teaches them the value of sportsmanship and teamwork. Before you condemn athletes maybe you should go and talk to some of the runners and sprinters (as an example) from third world countries who through sports were able to rise above their circumstances and compete at world level. I am sure they would have a very different take on the Olympics then do you.

Actually, judging by your vehement attitude towards Olympics, one might think that you had once been a competitor but simply failed to make the final cut. ;-)

You have missed my point I think, sports is a past time, a hobby, a diversion it is entertainment and it teaches very little about life in a positive useful manner. Sports is best done when the work is over, no sane community engages in a ball game when the crops are in the fields no one but an idiot would play hockey when his roof was leaking. The poeple in poor countries are poor and kept that way because our beloved bankers want to see them kept down for all time while we rape their neighbourhoods. If you want an exercise in team work and ethics build a house dig a well engage in farming build power systems use your god given strength and abilities to make the lives of your fellows physically better but by all means do not teach them to waste time in pursuit of the adulation of the circus. It's a fine thing to sweat while you pile up the hay it's stupid beyond belief to sweat chasing a puck back and forth between plywood walls or shoot a ball into a peach basket.
Our lord Hesus recommends that yea shall earn thy daily bread by the sweat of thy brow, all the wise recommend useful work, play is for children trying to emulate their elders in the performance of useful work. Nobody but a fool would applaud the waste of priceless BTUs. To promote sports and worship of the idle is the surest road to ruin. How many in the world are saved by a career in sports? In the competition that counts I have made the cuts one after the other as all men must do if they are to live sound and productive lives. Chasing balls is for dogs and retards. Give the a child the gift of hammer and nails this christmas watch their little eyes light up with glee, a shovel with a pink handle for the wife or girlfriend. no batteries included

ps; In the combined sport of beer drinking and softball I was judged by my peers as a great competitor.:lol:
 

countryboy

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You have missed my point I think, sports is a past time, a hobby, a diversion it is entertainment and it teaches very little about life in a positive useful manner. Sports is best done when the work is over, no sane community engages in a ball game when the crops are in the fields no one but an idiot would play hockey when his roof was leaking. The poeple in poor countries are poor and kept that way because our beloved bankers want to see them kept down for all time while we rape their neighbourhoods. If you want an exercise in team work and ethics build a house dig a well engage in farming build power systems use your god given strength and abilities to make the lives of your fellows physically better but by all means do not teach them to waste time in pursuit of the adulation of the circus. It's a fine thing to sweat while you pile up the hay it's stupid beyond belief to sweat chasing a puck back and forth between plywood walls or shoot a ball into a peach basket.
Our lord Hesus recommends that yea shall earn thy daily bread by the sweat of thy brow, all the wise recommend useful work, play is for children trying to emulate their elders in the performance of useful work. Nobody but a fool would applaud the waste of priceless BTUs. To promote sports and worship of the idle is the surest road to ruin. How many in the world are saved by a career in sports? In the competition that counts I have made the cuts one after the other as all men must do if they are to live sound and productive lives. Chasing balls is for dogs and retards. Give the a child the gift of hammer and nails this christmas watch their little eyes light up with glee, a shovel with a pink handle for the wife or girlfriend. no batteries included

ps; In the combined sport of beer drinking and softball I was judged by my peers as a great competitor.:lol:

"Man does not live by bread alone."


Your quote: "...sports is a past time, a hobby, a diversion it is entertainment and it teaches very little about life in a positive useful manner."

Actually, I think sports is a great way to teach (young) people a number of things such as:

- Teamwork - how to get along with others (Important? Look around this Forum)
- Pursuit of goals - How to work hard to achieve something
- Physical fitness - helps maintain better health
- Discipline - attending practises on time
- Humility - how to be gracious in victory and defeat
- Racsim killer - Ability to produce is at the top of the personal scorecard
- Helps to pull the country together - Well, in Canada's case, that is questionable...we seem to be more inclined to focus on our own pet beefs instead of uniting together to support national "efforts" such as the Olympics - many countries do a better job of it)

...and those are just a few of the ways I think sports can teach about life and contribute to the country and its people...

I'm not a diehard sports fan (other than football and curling) but I can see the value of the Olympics and sports in general. I wasn't in favor of it coming to BC, but now that it's here, let's make the best of it.

Go, Canada, Go!
 

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For the ordinary person paying the bills and interest the Olympics is a very bad deal.
Yes there will be winners, developers, real estate sales people, some very large retailers
and a handful of others. For the rest here is what you can look forward to.
The final bill and all the interest. Then there is increased taxes to pay, cuts in health care and education. After all sick people and children's education is not as
important as Gordon's image, or the making of money for the already rick.
In addition, when the real estate people create new developments in the manner
they are accustomed to, you will pay for the infrastructure improvements and the
upkeep of the new infrastructure, such as schools, arena and roads, sewer systems
and the like. Yes those are municipal taxes but remember there is only one taxpayer.
As if that isn't enough, the bill for the games is much higher than they admit to
so the HST was introduced to suck more money out of your pocketbook.
This whole thing is the biggest hoax ever played on the residents of BC. There was
a time when people thought the fast ferries were bad, well, the games and infrastructure costs surround the event makes the ferries pale in comparison
I suppose you can tell I am opposed to having a romp in the snow for rich people at
my expense.
 

AnnaG

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And in the meantime, while shiploads of money are being spent on the Olys, Campbull and crew continue to make cutbacks in education and healthcare. Politicians are so freakin stupid, it's mind-boggling.