The Miracles of Christ

[MHz]

Not quite, there chum, I mock those who ram their own interpretations of God down other's throats. You have no bloody business interpreting the actions of the true God, by scare mongering and making threats.

What Herald says about ending up in the fiery lake does have some Scriptures that point to that not happening you should also realize not everyone gets treated the same at His return. Everybody includes going back as far as Adam and Eve. Those who are not considered as 'servants' will get as close to fiery lake conditions as God allows. Rather than me tell you what these verses mean decide for yourself if they are just scare tactics.

1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely
be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called, ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Isa:65:13:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Isa:65:14:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

Nothing about the lake in those verses, not a pleasant place but at least a person can be brought back from there. Once brought out of that place a person has paid the price of their previous sins, no further punishment is coming ....... however should you not want that forgiveness you can reject it and commit another sin ..... then that person gets to see the fiery lake.

If you have some verses that point to a different fate for those ....... go for it. If 2/3 of the living die at His return then it is pretty obvious He doesn't expect most people to
be clued into what the Bible actually says.

To me , the bible should be banned . It has done more dammage to society then other hate literature. It is a book of confusion and contradictions

Uhmn .... These words are how you describe yourself ... "Confused Member" .... perhaps it is more you than the Bible although I have to admit you aren't alone. Perhaps those 'contradictions' are there on purpose. Sort of like a 'stop sign', if you figure out why there is no contradiction then you move forward in gaining a bit more knowledge about God. If something remains a contradiction to a person then that is as far as God allows them to go. Might not be totally 'fair' but it would certainly weed out the mockers in a hurry. Not being alive right after His return does not mean salvation never comes, it just come after all danger is over. By sending the non-believers to the grave or hell God actually keeps them away from Satan in the final battle at the end of the first 1,000 years. Any satanic followers at that time get sent to the lake but these are fallen angels and not men.

 

[DurkaDurka]

So where are all the Hindu's, Jews, Muslims, Buddhist's etc during the final battle?

That's right, Christianity is the only "true religion" so I imagine the lake of fire will be pretty full while Jesus is riding on the back of Angels, slaughtering demons and goblins etc.

 

[lone wolf]

Who ya gonna call?

 

[darkbeaver]

You do know that the fly dies in that situation and just why would anybody want a lot of dead flies.
It is the words in the Bible that is the honey and nobody is keeping it away from anybody, other than that those people themselves.

There is no such thing as death, only transformation. You have bought a ticket out of here on a train that isn't.:smile:

 

[DurkaDurka]

Who ya gonna call?

haha. Hopefully Bill Murray & Rick Moranis are still alive come the end of days :lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

DurkaDurka is a miracle of christ.

 

[DurkaDurka]

DurkaDurka is a miracle of christ.

True Story, he has touched me in many ways.

 

[MHz]

There is no such thing as death, only transformation. You have bought a ticket out of here on a train that isn't.:smile:

The ticket into death was part of the deal that comes with having the breath of life. Call it being aware or unaware or whatever you want. We have the power to go through a door in one direction only. The return trip requires a bit of help that is beyond anything we can/will ever muster. How old is man, for all our accomplishments that is one that is simply out of our grasp. How should we 'look upon' somebody who can go both ways (life-death-life) and can take us along should He choose to do so. Bending science is something we attempt to do. That only means we have to lie about the facts, when in the company of somebody who can reverse gravity you might want to put down your books and pay close attention, until then carry on so to speak. lol

 

[AnnaG]

You mock God, you mock the Scriptures, obviously you are not born again, and will not inherit eternal life...You're end will be the lake of fire and you will be destroyed.

I don't mock gods. I just don't think that we can hold their attention anymore than a few ants in the forest hold our attention. I do mock scriptures of holy books, yes. That's because humans wrote them, humans wrote them badly, and humans wrote them ambiguously, vaguely, and with faerie tales included.

 

[AnnaG]

What Herald says about ending up in the fiery lake does have some Scriptures that point to that not happening you should also realize not everyone gets treated the same at His return. Everybody includes going back as far as Adam and Eve.

All 6000 years back? lmao

 

[lone wolf]

I can't prove 'em ... can't disprove 'em. Can you?

 

[AnnaG]

haha. Hopefully Bill Murray & Rick Moranis are still alive come the end of days :lol:

The Terminator died in "The End Of Days", how could Bill & Rick survive?

 

[AnnaG]

There is no such thing as death, only transformation. You have bought a ticket out of here on a train that isn't.:smile:

Yup. People transform from living beings to dead, disintegrating ones. We have proof of that. ANything else is guesswork.

 

[JLM]

Yup. People transform from living beings to dead, disintegrating ones. We have proof of that. ANything else is guesswork.

You have that right, Anna, as far as the body is concerned, but I'm not sure we have all the answers about the soul. This world is comprised of many different races, including many types of aboriginals (at least one aboriginal race on every continent except maybe Europe) who arrived at similar religious beliefs independently of each other. Can someone explain that one to me?

 

[lone wolf]

You have that right, Anna, as far as the body is concerned, but I'm not sure we have all the answers about the soul. This world is comprised of many different races, including many types of aboriginals (at least one aboriginal race on every continent except maybe Europe) who arrived at similar religious beliefs independently of each other. Can someone explain that one to me?

Roman conquest?

 

[AnnaG]

The ticket into death was part of the deal that comes with having the breath of life. Call it being aware or unaware or whatever you want.

Death is a part of life. What a revelation. lol

We have the power to go through a door in one direction only. The return trip requires a bit of help that is beyond anything we can/will ever muster.

Apparently not. Apparently people come back from death on occasion. The procedure for bringing them back is called resuscitation.

How old is man, for all our accomplishments that is one that is simply out of our grasp.

Actually, hominids have been around for about 7 million years. Homo sapiens for about 200 thousand years. That is unless one ignores the facts that science has dug up, in which case, someone could say 130 years ago and still be right.

How should we 'look upon' somebody who can go both ways (life-death-life) and can take us along should He choose to do so.

Like we view any other human, would be my guess.

Bending science is something we attempt to do. That only means we have to lie about the facts, when in the company of somebody who can reverse gravity you might want to put down your books and pay close attention, until then carry on so to speak. lol

Who can reverse gravity? Is there any evidence it has ever been reversed? If there is, show us please (and without using the Bible, its credibility is iffy, at best).

 

[AnnaG]

You have that right, Anna, as far as the body is concerned, but I'm not sure we have all the answers about the soul. This world is comprised of many different races, including many types of aboriginals (at least one aboriginal race on every continent except maybe Europe) who arrived at similar religious beliefs independently of each other. Can someone explain that one to me?

There's one race of human: its called homo sapiens. Concerning souls and whatnot, it's guesswork.

 

[JLM]

There's one race of human: its called homo sapiens. Concerning souls and whatnot, it's guesswork.

Isn't that YOUR definition of race?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

This world is comprised of many different races ... who arrived at similar religious beliefs independently of each other. Can someone explain that one to me?

They're similar only to the extent that every culture has religious beliefs, they differ hugely in most respects except in the fact that they exist. The universality of religious belief says something about human nature--mostly they're attempts to explain the otherwise inexplicable--and nothing at all about the reality of the postulated spirits and agents of any particular belief system.

 

[AnnaG]

Isn't that YOUR definition of race?

Actually it's the general scientific definition. It has to do with the classification of species. Otherwise we'd have to include the "races" of left-handers and right-handers, myopic people and far-sighted people, hirsute people and hairless people, etc.