Racism - Come on down & Splain yourself Eh.
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Why wouldn't you factor skin colour in when it comes to what a customer may need? I've had plenty of people factor my skin colour in when it comes to need in terms of health service, aesthetics service, food service... a wide variety of things. I've been told my skin needs different lotions, my children need different glasses, I've been warned that food from other ethnicities might be too hot for me... people use my skin colour as a gauge all the time. I don't think of them as racists.
Simple answer - in MY business it isn't necessary or relevant. And it was MY biz to which I was referring. Can't speak for all them out there...
Ah... I took your statement to mean that it could somehow factor in, but you choose to rise above assumptions. Silly assumption on my part. Sorry.
Please forgive me for not being clear in my question...I meant to ask what is the generally-accepted (universal, if you will) definition of a racist, not who/what any particular person might consider to be an example of one.
To me....
A racist is someone who categorizes people according to skin colour, and refuses to accept that those categories may not fit as well as they think.
I pointed out people who have made assumptions about me based on skin colour. While I don't find an assumption to be a bad thing, to me, racism would be to stick to those assumptions. To say, refuse to give me the extra hot salsa on my meal because I'm too white for it. To refuse to let my kids play outside in the afternoon because they're too white. To stick to their guns that things 'MUST' be a certain way based on race, is racism.
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....and I'll make you both happy. I'm closing the Thread, Cleaning out
the Off-Topic nonsense, and then re-opening it.
the Off-Topic nonsense, and then re-opening it.
The Off-Topic and Trolling & Sidetracking Posts have been removed.
If I missed anything, I apologize, and can do this again if need be.
Please continue On-Topic, and Thank You for your patience.
If I missed anything, I apologize, and can do this again if need be.
Please continue On-Topic, and Thank You for your patience.
No problem, Karrie. We use demographic info. to grid the market...sort out customer needs by category, in an effort to link our services with those needs. Color or race has nothing to do with any of the needs...we're just trying to come up with ways to convince the customers to part with their hard-earned cash in exchange for our services. And as far as money is concerned, we like the color of the big bills best!
Racism is a useful tool, a dandy wedge to drive in between the marks, after divide comes conquest. Got a war going on somewhere? There is zero chance that you will not be using racism. I can hear the racist crap everyday on my CBC radio. Constant non stop ****ting on Arabs and Afghans and Eyerainiins everyday for years. Who is the truest target of racism today? The western medias onslaught on the Muslim world continues in ever greater spasms of mindless lethal hate. I don't need a lesson in racism from anybody but I do know some posters here who could benefit. In many cases they will be the first to cast stones. Beware the man whoes pockets are full of rocks.
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Sorry Karrie, but I totally disagree with you. Goober's topic is a good one. Sure he may not get the flamin' racists to fess up, but a discussion on racism allows others to see that maybe they were a little too harsh in their condemnation of a certain person or race. If only one person with racist tendencies is able to open his/her mind because of these discussions, then something really good has come out of it.
In the meantime, airing our views about racism and things we have encountered in our own lives is always illuminating.
Thanks, Ron. I was getting a tad peeved about people getting off topic by pointing out how useless the thread is. Hey, if you don't want to participate - no one is forcing you.
lol.... that is so funny, because Ron had to erase exactly what the thread set out for... a bunch of finger pointing and accusations. Which means it's still a useless thread... anything other than saying 'I'm not racist, aren't you happy we're all not racists?' is unworkable. :lol: For Goober's actual intention to be met, the thread ends up locked and purged. lol.
Well, I thought the objective was fairly clear in Goober's opening post...he can speak for himself of course, but here's what I saw up near the top of it..."Splain yur thinkin to me and others Eh. "
I think people relate their own experiences as part of their 'Splainin' but I personally have been learning a lot from those stories. Yes, I understand that people can get fairly excited about the topic and perhaps stray off topic a bit
, but those instances are usually fairly brief in nature, which makes them easy to skim over and get back to looking for the more meaningful posts.I understand your viewpoint, but I guess I am (respectfully) disagreeing with you. I think it's quite a useful thread, at least for me. Best example is how different people define "racism"...that is of great interest to me. Looking forward to more of it. Vive les differences!
PS - I'm still a bit confused on the definition of racism...need more, please. For example, if I was challenged to come up with one, I might say something along the lines of this: "Racism is a an attitude that causes people to make decisions about other people, based on their color or race."
I'm sure other people would disagree with that, or at least be able to state it in a more meaningful way, but that's my first pass at it.
In case you're wondering why I'm asking about it, try this...Back in my Christian Sunday School days, the choir leader always told us that the song would turn out much better if we were all singing from the same page of the hymn book.
I'm sure other people would disagree with that, or at least be able to state it in a more meaningful way, but that's my first pass at it.
In case you're wondering why I'm asking about it, try this...Back in my Christian Sunday School days, the choir leader always told us that the song would turn out much better if we were all singing from the same page of the hymn book.
Well, I thought the objective was fairly clear in Goober's opening post...he can speak for himself of course, but here's what I saw up near the top of it..."Splain yur thinkin to me and others Eh. "
I think people relate their own experiences as part of their 'Splainin' but I personally have been learning a lot from those stories. Yes, I understand that people can get fairly excited about the topic and perhaps stray off topic a bit
I understand your viewpoint, but I guess I am (respectfully) disagreeing with you. I think it's quite a useful thread, at least for me. Best example is how different people define "racism"...that is of great interest to me. Looking forward to more of it. Vive les differences!
You know what countryboy, I do owe a clarification... the thread isn't useless. It's the idea as it was first written, that anyone would walk in and say, 'hey, I'm a racist, and here's why', that I found to be ludicrous. As OP's go, it was thought provoking, it was attention sparking, and conversation flowed. But, not in the spirit of his challenge. It flowed exactly, as I said.... 'I'm better than racists', etc..
As soon as a single person walks in and says 'hey, I'm a racist!' and means it, I will happily eat my words on the issue. :smile:
I don't think anyone has to eat words. I know exactly where you're coming from...i.e., I understand what you're saying. I'm just approaching it from a different direction. Lacking superior intelligence (average, at best, but that's questionable most days), I'm looking at your phrase above "Hey, I'm a racist!" and I'm still on page 1 trying to define exactly what a racist is! (Told you I'm slow :lol: )...and I don't mind admitting it - keeps other people's expectations low and reduces stress for me. :lol::lol::lol: