Socialists in a Panic

[AnnaG]

Instead of spending trillions to address a non-existant problem (AGW) why not go after real problems, like actual pollution?

Actual pollution? Like what? You don't think we can pollute the air? You don't think a high CO2 concentration can harm anything?

Want to know what that looks like? Anna's pictures were mild. Take a look at this:
Amazing Pictures, Pollution in China | ChinaHush

China's actions bug me to no end. They had a great opportunity to start off developing clean to begin with but no, they had to start off like we were in the 60s.

 

[JLM]

Actual pollution? Like what? You don't think we can pollute the air? You don't think a high CO2 concentration can harm anything?

China's actions bug me to no end. They had a great opportunity to start off developing clean to begin with but no, they had to start off like we were in the 60s.

Yes, but are a billion of them creating any bigger mess than 30 million of us are?

 

[Walter]

No it's not.

Yes it is; so there.

 

[pgs]

Ya, who cares about the kids or the grandkids. Phuque em as long as you're comfortable. Who cares if there are a growing number of kids who have to live on respirators? Who cares about the hundreds of species going extinct every year? "I'm all right Jack, so up yours!"

Yup.
I am no different than Al Gore or David Suzuki.
actually I am .
I admit I am not changing my ways.
But Cliffy my carbon footprint is much smaller than both of those idiots.
I believe manmade global warming is a sham.
As to hundreds of species going extint every year,please name those caused by global warming,or is that climat change?
It is my understnding most extintion is the result of loss of habitat and over harvesting.Both of these causes will be greatly diminished if we didn't have any pesky grandkids.
So yes Cliffy I AM ALL RIGHT ,JACK>

 

[pgs]

And the evidence saying we can't influence climate is irrefutable? lmao


Apparently the bug is pretty choosy about temperatures, food sources, habitat, and that sort of thing.

http://www.usu.edu/beetle/documents/Logan_Powell01.pdf


He didn't say so.

They'll have to eventually, along with hydro, nuclear, etc.
That's beside my point, though. What effect would it have on the economy if people were cleaner, dirty businesses like oil companies went out and were replaced by energy companies that were cleaner? I think it'd be more economical to go clean than remain dirty and having to clean up your mess later and then go clean.

But whatever; foul up the planet as much as you want and defend Shell Oil, Exxon, and the others if you like, but stay off my property.

OF course the fact all major oil companys are on board the climate change bandwagon and set to cash in on carbon credit trading doesn't change a thing.

 

[TenPenny]

It is inconceivable that we, as humans, can dump so much crap into our air, land, and water, and not have it affect the global environment/climate to some extent.

There must be some impact. You cannot keep dumping **** into your own house without something breaking down.

 

[JLM]

It is inconceivable that we, as humans, can dump so much crap into our air, land, and water, and not have it affect the global environment/climate to some extent.

There must be some impact. You cannot keep dumping **** into your own house without something breaking down.

You'd certainly think so, but on second thought all this "crap" originates with the earth anyway.

 

[Cliffy]

OF course the fact all major oil companys are on board the climate change bandwagon and set to cash in on carbon credit trading doesn't change a thing.

Climate change is happening but I still have no idea of the cause. What I do know is that we are poisoning our life support system, people are suffering and species are dying off. The whole Carbon trading fiasco is a scam to cover up the real problem. It is the left hand slapping you in the face as the right hand picks your pocket.

 

[Tonington]

It is my understnding most extintion is the result of loss of habitat and over harvesting.Both of these causes will be greatly diminished if we didn't have any pesky grandkids.
So yes Cliffy I AM ALL RIGHT ,JACK>

Tell me, how do you take an event like species extinction, and remove one of the factors which was changing during the period that they went extinct, and determine that there is one or two factors only that determine this outcome?

 

[#juan]

Again, Anna, you refer to human caused problems, not natural ones. I don't like the thought of my grandkids and generations to come having to deal with those problems either. Neither do I want my descendants coping with those problems exacerbated by the economy destroying costs of paying for harmless CO2 emissions.

Hey, you added another picture there, beetle killed trees. That one is natural so it doesn't apply to the rest I said here.

That is just one more piece of evidence Extrafire that you don't know what you are talking about.. The beetles killed the trees because global warming let them survive in a warmer Winter. In the past the cold Winters always killed the beetles. This is just one more thing that global warming is doing to us.

Btw, C02 is just one of the greenhouse gasses that we produce an excess of.

 

[Avro]

That is just one more piece of evidence Extrafire that you don't know what you are talking about.. The beetles killed the trees because global warming let them survive in a warmer Winter. In the past the cold Winters always killed the beetles. This is just one more thing that global warming is doing to us.

Btw, C02 is just one of the greenhouse gasses that we produce an excess of.

Methane is a big one, most being produced by cattle.

 

[Walter]

Methane is a big one, most being produced by cattle.

I love a good steak. Keep them dogies fartin'.

 

[Tonington]

It's burps, not farts. A cow can produce about 500-600 litres a day. That volume is substantially smaller if the cows are grazing rather than fed corn and soy, which is foreign to the evolution of their digestive process.

 

[AnnaG]

Yes, but are a billion of them creating any bigger mess than 30 million of us are?

Apparently, they are.

 

[AnnaG]

OF course the fact all major oil companys are on board the climate change bandwagon and set to cash in on carbon credit trading doesn't change a thing.

No, it doesn't. Their concern is not the planet. Their concern is the $ and how cheaply they can keep up with change forced by pressures from people and governments.

 

[AnnaG]

You'd certainly think so, but on second thought all this "crap" originates with the earth anyway.

Yeah, it does, but ecologies all develop with specific environmental elements, and what we do is we take elements from other environments and strwew them around to places they haven't been before. For instance, oil is the biggie. The planet had a way of dealing with oil in the places it had oil. We dug it up and spread it all over the place and caused immense problems.
We take foregin species and introduce them locally and make a hell of a mess. Look at the Aussie's method for dealing with the cane beetle, for instance. They brought in the cane toad to deal with the beetle, but the toad apparently doesn't like the beetle. In the meantime, the toads are wreaking hovoc on all the other wildlife.
But, it's all natural, right?

 

[pgs]

Yeah, it does, but ecologies all develop with specific environmental elements, and what we do is we take elements from other environments and strwew them around to places they haven't been before. For instance, oil is the biggie. The planet had a way of dealing with oil in the places it had oil. We dug it up and spread it all over the place and caused immense problems.
We take foregin species and introduce them locally and make a hell of a mess. Look at the Aussie's method for dealing with the cane beetle, for instance. They brought in the cane toad to deal with the beetle, but the toad apparently doesn't like the beetle. In the meantime, the toads are wreaking hovoc on all the other wildlife.
But, it's all natural, right?

Sure but then look at Hawaii the polyenisians came over brought their pigs their plants ,changed the enviroment.
Funny when western man first set foot there, it was paridise.

 

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Sure but then look at Hawaii the polyenisians came over brought their pigs their plants ,changed the enviroment.
Funny when western man first set foot there, it was paridise.

Get it right! Paradise is a western concept.

 

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Socialists in a Panic Over ClimateGate…to Pass UN Climate Treaty

Socialists are in a picnic over ClimateGate rather since they enjoy terrorizing Conservatives with arbitrariness.

 

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Life is to short for me to become a chicken little and worry about falling skies, or is that rising temperatures.

Socialism remains an unfinished endeavor precisely because it can shortened even more the lives of selfish exploiters.