Can a human being change .

[lone wolf]

Cliffy

Why do you need the vehicle ?

It's a long walk....

 

[AnnaG]

AnnaG
Well this is my thread and and all god s are welcome here...that's ahoy G O D S. ....they are always welcome in my threads ,
and they are never annoying

lmao It isn't your thread, it's CC's thread. You only started it.
What are "ahoy G O D S"?
Actually, you are right, gods themselves aren't annoying, people constantly bringing them up are annoying at times.

 

[AnnaG]

Cliffy

God is neither old nor new, or, God is the most ancient, because only God is. God is non-temporal; it does not belong to the dimension of time. Hence you cannot call it old or new ,it is fresh, virgin. You need not go into the scriptures. You certainly have to go into the breeze that is passi ng through the pine trees, you certainly have to go into the fragrance that is being released by the flowers. You have to go into This moment with your total being Cliffy, you have to relax herenow, and all the scriptures will be revealed to you. The Vedas and the Gitas and the Korans and yes the Bible will be sung in your deepest core of being. Then you will know that all the scriptures are true; but first your own inner scripture has to be known, understood.

Are you a Christian priest or minister?

 

[AnnaG]

Now you are talking spirituality, not religion. Religion is the dead brother of spirituality. The only way to know life is to live it in the here and now.

"Religion is the bureaucracy between man and god" - Bill Maher

 

[AnnaG]

For that very reason everyone needs 'inner space' where there is no one directing you, telling you where to go and what to do. We have been given that space so that the confusion and chaos around us will dissolve. You must never surrender that space to anyone, except your true self. Meditation is really a journey back to that space to find peace and happiness.

Ah. I see. You aren't a priest or minister, you're a swami.

 

[AnnaG]

"Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people. - George Bernard Shaw

Exactly. Good quote.

 

[AnnaG]

Cannuck
.................and Jesus Christ who also carries some authority said
"Be in this world but don't be of this world".Now , figure that out , eh?

Apparently he thought we are marooned aliens.

 

[Outta here]

Apparently he thought we are marooned aliens.

8O

ya mean we're not? ...guess I'll stop waiting for the mother ship then. :smile:

 

[Francis2004]

We probably have asked ourselves , I'm quite sure, whether one can change at all. I know that outward circumstances change; we marry, divorce, have children; there is death, a better job, the pressure of new inventions, and so on. Outwardly there is a tremendous revolution going on in cybernetics and automation. One must have asked oneself whether it is at all possible for one to change at all, not in relation to outward events, not a change that is a mere repetition or a modified continuity, but a radical revolution, a total mutation of the mind. When one realizes, as one must have noticed within oneself, that actually one doesn't change, one gets terribly depressed, or one escapes from oneself. So the inevitable question arises, can there be change at all? We go back to a period when we were young, and that comes back to us again. Is there change at all in human beings? Have you changed at all? Perhaps there has been a modification on the periphery. but deeply, radically, have you changed? Perhaps we do not want to change, because we are fairly comfortable....I want to change. I see that I am terribly unhappy, depressed, ugly, violent, with an occasional flash of something other than the mere result of a motive; and I exercise my will to do something about it. I say I must be different, I must drop this habit, that habit; I must think differently; I must act in a different way; I must be more this and less that. One makes a tremendous effort and at the end of it one is still shoddy, depressed, ugly, brutal, without any sense of quality. So one then asks oneself if there is change at all. Can a human being change? Can you change?

It sounds to my ( IMO ) that you are trying more to change for someone else then yourself.

To affect real change a person usually really wants to do it for themselves. As soon as you attempt to create change for someone ( or even something ) else you put a limitation on that change. If you get aggravated at any point during your change period ( unless you are very determined ) you will most likely find a reason or excuse to use to stop the change and blame it on that purpose.

Here is a classic example of change people attempt and fail at.. They want to quit smoking and use the "kids health" as reason for doing so. But as soon as the kids aggravate or stress them out enough they run back to smoking when they themselves have reached the stressful point of quitting and they use it as that last mental straw to push them back over the edge.

I realize there are chemical reasons ( withdrawls ) as well but everything involving the brain involves the chemical reactions. The brain runs on chemical reactions and interactions.

With the proper motivation that desire to change is set in your brain and you can adjust for "yourself" and no one ( or thing ) else. This takes that last straw or edge away and gives the no real reason for going over the edge in most cases. It still requires the will but will not give the "easy" way out that most people want by using others as reasons for making changes and having that escape route if they feel they will fail. Hence they are really setting themselves up to fail from the start.

That is my Opinion..

 

[AnnaG]

8O

ya mean we're not? ...guess I'll stop waiting for the mother ship then. :smile:

We could be, but don't wait for the mothership. We are marooned remember? They didn't want us.

 

[AnnaG]

Psychological change? I change my mind a lot. It's usually a response to newly discivered internal or external data. One becomes a disaster if one does not adapt to new info in a timely manner.

 

[china]

Quoting china

Why do you need the vehicle ?

Cliffy

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It's a long walk....

China
I know . How far?

 

[Cliffy]

Quoting china
Cliffy

​

China
I know . How far?

Beginning to the end of the life of the vehicle. I understand that the vehicle is actually a mental construct because we got so caught up in this experiment with physicality, that we forgot that we really don't need a vehicle and that some day we may evolve back to our original state of pure energy.

 

[china]

What I'm saying Cliffy is : how necessary is the vehicle .
Let's say there is no distance .

 

[In Between Man]

It's 12:30 pm in Qingdao.

How's the weather China?