New hints about life on Mars

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It is not any scribble; it is the revelation from God Almighty Who can reveal His words in any language in a most eloquent way: whether in Hebrew, in Arabic, or in any other language.

This is in the Quran 6: 91
وَمَا قَدَرُواْ اللّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ إِذْ قَالُواْ مَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ عَلَى بَشَرٍ مِّن شَيْءٍ قُلْ مَنْ أَنزَلَ الْكِتَابَ الَّذِي جَاء بِهِ مُوسَى نُورًا وَهُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ تَجْعَلُونَهُ قَرَاطِيسَ تُبْدُونَهَا وَتُخْفُونَ كَثِيرًا وَعُلِّمْتُم مَّا لَمْ تَعْلَمُواْ أَنتُمْ وَلاَ آبَاؤُكُمْ قُلِ اللّهُ ثُمَّ ذَرْهُمْ فِي خَوْضِهِم[يَلْعَبُونَ
Yup. That definitely looks like the same scribble. My chickens make similar marks on the ground when they look for bugs and stuff. :)
The explanation:
(And they do not esteem God as He should be esteemed; for they say: "God has never sent down anything on any human being!"


Say: "Who then sent down the scripture which Moses brought: [as] an illumination and a guide to people,
which you put on papers that you reveal and you hide much,
and you have been taught that which you did not know: neither you nor your fathers."

Say: "[It is] God." Then let them be to play in their prating.

And this [Quran] is a book which We have sent down [to Mohammed]; blessed, and confirming [Mohammed] by whose hands [is the Quran],
and to warn [the people of Mecca] the capital of cities and those round about her.

Those who believe in the afterlife believe in this [Quran], and they are constant in keeping up their prayers.)

Save your breath, pilgrim, preaching at me just makes me bored. But, seeing as you're obviously into mythology, here's a bit of it from my people. It's called "A Puff Of Wind" and it's about the birth of Wenabozho, the Trickster:
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Before there was a man, two women, an old one and her daughter, were the only humans on earth. The old woman had not needed a man in order to conceive. Ahki, the earth, also was like a woman -– female -- but not as she is now, because trees and many animals had not yet been made.
Well, the young woman, the daughter, took her basket out one day to go berry-picking. She had gathered enough and was returning home when a sudden puff of wind lifted her doeskin up high, baring her body. Geesis, the sun, shone on that spot for a short moment and entered the body of the young woman, though she hardly noticed it. She was aware of the puff of wind but paid no attention.
Time passed. The young woman said to the old one: "I don't know what's wrong with me, but something is different about me." More time passed. The young woman's belly grew bigger, and she said: "Something is moving inside me. What can it be?"
"When you were going berry-picking, did you meet anyone?" The old woman asked.
"I met nobody. The only thing that happened was a big gust of wind which lifted my dress. The sun was shining."
The old woman said: "I think you're going to have a child. Geesis, the sun, is the only one who could have done it, so you will be the mother of a sun child."
The young woman gave birth to two boys, both manitos (gods). They were the first human males on this earth –- Geesis's sons, sons of the sun.
The young mother made cradle-boards and put the twins in these, hanging them up or carrying them on her back, but never letting the babies touch the earth. Why didn't she? Did the Old Woman tell her not to? Nobody knows. If she had put the cradle-boards on the ground, the babies would have walked upright from the moment of their birth, like deer babies. but because their mother would not let them touch earth for some months, it now takes human babies a year or so to walk. It was that young woman's fault.
One of the twins was Stone Boy, a rock. He said: "Put me in the fire and heat me up until I glow red hot." They did, and he said: "Now pour cold water over me." They did this also. That was the first sweat bath. The other boy, named Wenabozho, looked like all human boys. He became mighty and could do anything; he even talked to the animals and gave them their names.

I think Wenabozho, has been playing with you. :)
 

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#juan, I think it is you that are living in a vacuum, in spite of the passing of years.

What will you say to God Almighty when you deny His revealed word in the Glorious Quran and deny His noble prophet Mohammed who confirmed all the past prophets and heavenly books, and he invited people to worship God alone without associate or patron?
I think if I was a god and had someone write a book for me, I'd make the author live for a few hundred years so they could explain what they wrote in the book. It'd save people from confusion as to what was said in it. I'd also be really tempted to pull a few tricks on humans and tell the author to write stuff that would play jokes on humans; such as telling the author to say that the universe flies around Sol, our sun. lmao
 

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Hey did you know that google could translate Arabic now?



Translates to:



The word "يُكَوِّر" means "wrapping" not, makes spherical, which would be "يجعل كروية".

When people wrap their babies in blankets in the Middle East, are they making them into little balls? How barbaric.
lmao I called daughter #2 "football" (as in soccerball) because she was a little round thing for quite a while. I still call her that now and then just to be a tease.
 

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"...any life that we know of"

But if there is life on these planets, it would be of a variety that we do not know of. We have absolutely no idea what life would be like on other planets except in our imaginations. We are far too ignorant of the possibilities that may exist in the universe to speculate their existence or not.


I read in the Torah: the Book of Genesis that God created the earth, and did not create it to leave it devoid of life.

I say, similarly, these planets are earths like our earth and larger, then God will not leave such earths devoid of any life included in them.

Moreover, the Quran - as explained in the book: The Universe and the Quran , declares that the heavens and the earth, or the planets including the earth are full of large number of his created beings like to our case on Earth.
 

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I read in the Torah: the Book of Genesis that God created the earth, and did not create it to leave it devoid of life.

He obviously made the Earth to fill it with sin. Somehow, the experiments backfired and life started growing like an obnoxious mold all over the delectable sin god created.
 

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Jesus lives on Mars in a bunker with Mohammed, Ganesh, Ron Hubbard & Hitler apparently.
.... amongst the dandelions. :D
Elvis, Liberace, and Michael J. are living on the dark side of the moon, too, but they have violets there.
 

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Hey! We're all purple now. This is awesome! Maybe there are gods and they figured out we should have color.
 

eanassir

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I don't think it says so directly, but there are half a dozen references to Allah's construction techniques--

spreading out the earth and dropping hills onto it, for instance--

that strongly suggest a flat earth.

It does, however, clearly claim that the sun orbits the earth.

Dropping hills onto the earth has nothing to do with the earth being flat or spherical.

But where it is mentioned in the Quran that the earth is spread out?
And where is the claim that the sun rotates around the earth?
 

eanassir

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There are many web-sites against the Quran, where many accusations have been cited.

Such accusations almost are in the field of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran.

The interpreter wrote a book in Arabic: The interpretation of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran, which I have not completed its translation yet.

It includes the answer of such claims agaisnt the Quran.
 

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Dropping hills onto the earth has nothing to do with the earth being flat or spherical.

But where it is mentioned in the Quran that the earth is spread out?
I have no idea about that.
And where is the claim that the sun rotates around the earth?
It doesn't. All it takes is to measure the distances to the planets and figure stellar parallax. You need a telescope, a piece of paper, a pencil or pen, a calculator would be nice but it isn't a necessity.
 

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I just asked him: where is this in the Quran that the sun revolves around the earth?
psssst. Plato stated long before any religious book that the earth was round and revolved arund the sun.

Man knew and forgot this fact several times in our history. Chances are in the near future it (earth) will be flat and the sun moves again.
 

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Yes I know what it's called, and what it claims to be, I've read it. I found it to be repetitive, ignorant, boring, and silly, and your constant preaching from it when you're pretending to talk about science is equally so.

Just for your information, Mars is about half the diameter of the earth and a tenth the mass, average surface pressure is about a hundredth of an atmosphere, the average temperature is below -60 degrees and ranges from about +20 to -150.

Has it entirely escaped your notice that there are instruments there that can tell us these things directly? There are no people there.

You're not going to be any more successful with your silly claims this time than you were the last time you were here.



So now you have again come with your clinging to the available scientific achievement, and ignoring the possibility of any more advance and discoveries.
And again you started your attack against the Quran, which no just man may deny its importance and its high rank instruction and knowledge.
· So this is your assertion, while to believers they understand much wisdom included in the Glorious Quran: and it is not silly; but it is full of wisdom.

· The repetitions:
>> And it has many repetitions, but each repetition is not exactly similar.
E.g. the story of Moses is mentioned many times in the Quran, but each time, it includes something different from other sites, and when you collect all that, the story comes to be complete, while it has to be mentioned many times in a way of confirming the apostle and the believers.
>>The repetition is for the purpose of confirming this meaning many times until it is fixed in the memory and in the heart.
>> Each time, a certain problem is exposed from one or more aspects, until the picture will be clear.
E.g. the monotheism and that God is the only Patron and Master; and why God does not accept any associating others with Him.
>> Its purpose is not merely telling stories, but it is a sort of psychological remedy and healing for the sad, the depressed, the fearing, the hoping …etc.
>> Some of the repeated ayat, is for the reminding of man about God's blessings and bounties so that he will after each aya, will say: Thank you God, for such bounty. Or he will say: Glory be to God.
>> Some of such repetitions will be used in the celebrations and in prayers.
>> By such repetitions, with some variation and comparison: the Quran parts explain each other.

This is about some of the purpose of the repetitions,
· while your saying it is boring …etc; this is for you; while to others it is blessing and wisdom and remedy.
In other words, it is up to God that people regarding the Quran divide into two parties: one admiring the Glorious Quran and guided by its words; and the other party disgust and bore with it.
This is according to the Quran 41: 44

قُلْ هُوَ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا هُدًى وَشِفَاء وَالَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ فِي آذَانِهِمْ وَقْرٌ وَهُوَ عَلَيْهِمْ عَمًى أُوْلَئِكَ يُنَادَوْنَ مِن مَّكَانٍ بَعِيدٍ

The explanation:
(Say [O Mohammed to them]:

"[The Quran], to those who believe, is guidance and healing,
[whereas] those who unbelieve have deafness in their ears, and it is blindness for them.

Such [associaters] will be summoned from a far place.)

Moreover, your saying that the temperature ranges from +20 to -150: if it is true, then this is new, and different from their past assertions that the surface of Mars all over is freezing and belwo zero degree.
 
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