If he broke the US law while being in the US, that might be true, but he did not go to the US. They have no business extraditing him. He will be a political prisoner. The US should clean up their own back yard and stay out of our country and our affairs.
Canada A Lackey To USA in Marc Emery Extradtition, Free Marc Emery!!!!!
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If he broke the US law while being in the US, that might be true, but he did not go to the US. They have no business extraditing him. He will be a political prisoner. The US should clean up their own back yard and stay out of our country and our affairs.
"Canada's self-proclaimed "Prince of Pot" will plead guilty this summer in a Seattle court in hopes of serving a shorter sentence — and one in Canada.
Marc Emery is facing three drug-related counts in relation to his 2005 arrest stemming from a mail-order marijuana-seed distribution business he ran from 1998 to 2005, selling seeds to both Canadians and Americans."
He was selling and sending pot seeds via mail to Americans...that is against the law. We have extradition treaties so it is pretty cut and dry. Whether you like it or not it is our law and we want him to face charges. Canada agrees because he is coming to Seattle!
If he used the US Postal Service to abet in his activities than he doesn't need to physically be in the country.
So as long as there is an extradition treaty then it's open season on anyone?
It's curious that you haven't charged nor used local Canadian police to arrest anyone else doing just that. Even larger trade with Amsterdam so I would like to see where it is that the DEA has been arresting and having other seed sellers extradited to the US to stand trial.
I would also point out that it was Americans that asked and paid for all the seeds sold to them.
We haven't? You mean this guy is the first and only guy that America has charged with this crime?
They broke the law too. I bet they were the ones that ratted him out after they were arrested.
So you can mail illegal matter across the border and expect to not be called to court over it? Really. Don't tell terrorists that k?
Like I said, legalise it, regulate it, drop charges, and no big issue. The cops on both sides of the border can go about looking for serious criminals instead of Cheech & Chong, the gov't makes taxes they didn't have before, don't spend money on cops chasing Cheech & Chong, etc. Any other alternative is simply political nonsense.
Please don't take me literally when I said Cheech & Chong.
Please don't take me literally when I said Cheech & Chong.
Well, seeing as the USA loves to politically lobby other nations such as Canada when we would like to change our own laws regarding drugs, it seems pretty necessary for our own sovereignty to lobby them.
I'm not sure if you are saying, "If you break the law you earn the punishment," but this is the statement I will tackle below.
This statement is the same as stating that the heretics got what they deserved when they were strappadoed during the Spanish inquisition because they should have known they were breaking the law. The same as saying one doesn't care about the many people tortured or imprisoned by the Stasis in the GDR for speaking their minds, because again, it was against the law. There are many more atrocious examples out there.
Here is a related stupidity: it is illegal to have anal sex in Canada before the age of 18 making it illegal to be male and homosexual before said age. This law will never get changed until there is a crown prosecutor that charges someone with it. The laws almost always change only when people break them and fight their prosecution. Our own Henry Morgentaler was only able to change Canada's abortion laws by breaking them.
The law has to prosecute them, sure, but the people should protest such laws.
I agree.
Not necessarily. People can have sex without penetration, you know.
Yeah, law books definitely need revision, for sure. It'd probably be cheaper in the long run than having multitudes of court cases concerning civil disobedience. But then, revisions would make sense. More fun catching, prosecuting, etc. I guess.
Yup
I mean that out of a large number of companies doing this in both Canada the US and Amsterdam he has been singled out.
Dude they were DEA agents in Canada buying them, then again asked for some over the Internet and paid to have them sent to the US. I don't think "ratted him out" quite explains it.
I don't understand how someone could support their government using something like the DEA as a weapon against someone who points out bad laws and works to get them changed.
I think you said before that you thought this was a bad law and that it would be better for everyone is the laws regarding Pot were abolished? Do you have a different view of this now?
:angry3:Absolute ass kissing lackeys.
What better way to suck up to the knuckle dragging luddites.
But, the Libs would do the same thing.......
go figure....
What better way to suck up to the knuckle dragging luddites.
But, the Libs would do the same thing.......
go figure....
I think he has made himself a target and now he has to pay. He is plea barganing so he knows he is screwed.
My bad. So he got caught in a sting. He sort of did a Tony Montana from Scarface. He wanted to make a stand...spoke out a little too loud...pushed his seeds across the border and got busted.
That is the Govt and DEA's job. Until the law is changed the govt and the DEA should go after these people.
I don't think it is a bad law because I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't smoke pot. I do not judge people who smoke it. BUT...when you want to ride the wave of popularity...put yourself out there like "Canada's Prince of Pot" has you have to pay the price if you get busted. He seems pretty upbeat about going to jail...he says he is going to learn two languages and do some writing.
It's quite common in geostrategic works. Canada can also be referred to as a protectorate and Brezinsky goes so far as to call Canada a vessel nation.
There is no doubt he's screwed.
No Tony Montana, no sting operation, this is thugs in Jackboots.
Right, but they don't for the most part. Hell we tax the exchange here.
The war on drugs isn't about making people safe, or preventing some really bad
drugs from falling into the hands of some kids or something.
The one and only thing it does do is creates a black market for drugs and an industry of incarcerating low level drug users who in reality are a threat to no one.
Well all you have to do is find something where you can empathize. Do you drink or smoke?
I would imagine that he will do just that and probably more. Marc is a pretty good guy and a smart cookie. But you are going to be paying for it with your taxes to house him for all the time in the US and the what it costs for this whole operation. Do you figure that it's stopped any seed sales or any pot from being smoked?
Do you expect this sort of value from all your purchases? :smile:
Didn't say he was.
I am saying Canadians say that to stir the pot a little. For the most part Americans think Canada is Canada.