I hate pot smokers!!, there I said it!

JLM

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I don't puff - I don't mind people that do, and I don't know why puffers compare MJ use to alcohol - why do that? As an interesting side note - I drink beer because I like the taste of beer. I may have a rum and coke because I like the taste of rum and coke. I don't know anyone who smokes pot because they like the taste.. it is to alter the state of mind. It would be like drinking to intentionally get drunk. I drink a couple of beers with friends that doesn't leave me drunk. The fact is that doing anything in moderation is likely fine. An occasional pot smoker doesn't hurt my feelings (could care less really) but chronic smokers, much like alcoholics, whatever, have a problem that needs to be addressed. Toking to get by is bull****. Get a grip. I don't see the comparison between alcohol and pot, but I do see the intention, and that is what can be concerning. That some want to leave a sober state of mind. Who cares really, but there are consequences that you may think don't cost anybody anything, but everyone who pays your medical bills (pot is something like 7 times as destructive to your lungs as a cigarette, and you know how safe they are, I think it has to do with tar content) and I think its reasonable to crap on anyone who is doing things to excess. Chronic isn't cool. It's embarrassing really.

And if you need it medically, use it. Everyone should leave you alone for that. It is the significant minority.

Why sweat the issue? I think you're maybe right about pot, but why push the point? If someone wants to smoke pot for WHATEVER reason and doesn't blow it in my face or affect me in anyway, I say "be my guest". Sometimes in life you have to have two sets of standards- one for yourself and one for everyone else or you'll drive yourself crazy.
 

mabudon

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Hell, if it's a "paying for health care" issue then I would like my taxes to support the health-care of vegetarians like myself, people with 20 kg colons full of decades old half-digested meat fibers getting butt-cancer were ASKING of it and deserve no sympathy :D
 

Cannuck

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Why would we? I don't smoke but in the day I smoked enough to keep me going until I start pushing up daisies. A person who has never smoked, doesn't really have a personal opinion, just one that was handed to them. Without personal experience in anything, an opinion is just blowing smoke out their butt.

So if you've never been in a war, you don't have a personal opinion, only one that was handed to you? That's odd.
 

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This article is better. It tells you what they are actually trying to do.

Pot proposal's impact depends on federal law

I think decriminalization is better than out right legalization. If they legalize it, they will capitalize the crap out of it. And IMO they don't deserve the tax revenues that would come along with it considering they're the ones who have been telling everyone all along that we can't have it and putting people in jail who shouldn't be there. But that's just me.

The article says that the pot bill would :
-- Decriminalize personal use, sale, possession and cultivation of marijuana in California.
-- If the federal ban on possession, cultivation and sale of marijuana were repealed, the state would allow marijuana growers and sellers and impose a $50-an-ounce tax.


Also, one thing that I would hate to see happen is to see them add all kinds of other sh*t to it and call it a preservative, just like they did to cigarettes. I'm pretty sure that smoking straight tobacco doesn't necessarily kill people but stuff like formaldehyde, hydrogen cyanide and benzine, among other foul chemicals, do. So, if they get their hands on pot, they will most definitely do something to it to make sure that it is bad for us just to show us how right they've been all along.


Enslaving the herb is not the right answer. Just my opinion.


 

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So if you've never been in a war, you don't have a personal opinion, only one that was handed to you? That's odd.

And that sounds like a straw man argument. With pot there is very little health issues, nobody gets killed, people are not violent, wives don't get beaten, kids don't get abused, so how does pot smoking equate to war?
 

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You can't prove anything about your daughters on here, so i'l just ignore that part.
I smell like calvin clien, I only act retarded when i'm babysitting children, and I am very, U look like Santa Clause.:lol:

I'm just playing the devils advocate, .....lol...Santa Clause......LMAO!:lol:
 

Cannuck

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And that sounds like a straw man argument. With pot there is very little health issues, nobody gets killed, people are not violent, wives don't get beaten, kids don't get abused, so how does pot smoking equate to war?

If you haven't experienced it you aren't qualified to express an opinion on it...well, at least some people think so. I for one disagree with that line of thinking.

BTW, don't embarrass yourself by suggesting that inhaling smoke doesn't have health issues.
 

lone wolf

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If you haven't experienced it you aren't qualified to express an opinion on it...well, at least some people think so. I for one disagree with that line of thinking.

BTW, don't embarrass yourself by suggesting that inhaling smoke doesn't have health issues.

He didn't. The words were "very little health issues".
 

Francis2004

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Yes I have smoked in my youth and I have also ingested the stuff to which I think the effect was much stronger. I guess that is a matter of opinion but that would be mine and mine alone.. I guess I reached a point of maturity and realized how it affected my own life for different reasons..

I also used to drink and stopped all that when I was 30.. That would be almost 18 years ago..

I have no problems with people doing either in moderation. That's a personal choice.

I would love to see MJ taxed so that all the effects of it could go to multiple social programs instead of drug dealers pockets.

My kids find it strange that I don't drink or do drugs but that "others" do.. I have had to explain it is my choice. My 18 year old cannot stand the sight or smell of drugs or alcohol at this time and at least for know she never has issues with it.

As for Alcohol they can further tax it and use the taxes for the same purpose. To me I have almost been hit a few times by swerving idiots that I am sure a few were drunk at night. Funny how I then run into a police road block but that car was never pulled over..

In any case there are many reasons for my doing what I do ( or not ) and one of them is that I have developed a very bad allergic reaction to Rag Weed. We all know what MJ is and hence I am almost anaphylactic to which I carry an epipen..

As for Alcohol, well that was a personal choice that was based on multiple reasons.. It was basically a choice I had to make and I did with absolutely no regrets..
 

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Phobia is a bad mental condition on any subject, many people will prejudge every situation and as a result they find them self throwing rocks on Glass houses when in fact they live in one. The fact that we human beings are an addictive species, the smoking habit started back in around 6000 BC. At first it grew exclusively in the Americas, from where it has since been exported around the world. The plant wasn't cultivated until around 5,000 years later though, when it began to be smoked and chewed by the Mayans,
on a ceremonial basis as well energy producer when chewed. Smoking pot is a far better choice then killing the liver a small organ that when it goes it is gone, the lungs one can function with one lung, but a half liver is not in the cards for survival.

Life is full of temptation and as a result of temptation a height level of addiction.
 

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Phobia is a bad mental condition on any subject, many people will prejudge every situation and as a result they find them self throwing rocks on Glass houses when in fact they live in one. The fact that we human beings are an addictive species, the smoking habit started back in around 6000 BC. At first it grew exclusively in the Americas, from where it has since been exported around the world. The plant wasn't cultivated until around 5,000 years later though, when it began to be smoked and chewed by the Mayans,
on a ceremonial basis as well energy producer when chewed. Smoking pot is a far better choice then killing the liver a small organ that when it goes it is gone, the lungs one can function with one lung, but a half liver is not in the cards for survival.

Life is full of temptation and as a result of temptation a height level of addiction.

I guess the new technology doesn't require a full liver to survive- lately they're been carving off parts of donor's livers for transplant recipients (how successfully I have no idea)...............NOt my idea of a good time for either the donor or the donee.
 

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I guess the new technology doesn't require a full liver to survive- lately they're been carving off parts of donor's livers for transplant recipients (how successfully I have no idea)...............NOt my idea of a good time for either the donor or the donee.

Good day JLM, it is a bad way of having fun for sure, exception though a good glass of wine is a compliment to good food and good company, nothing wrong with that tradition. It becomes obnoxiously taxing to see people from all walks of life (professionals and none) having destroyed their body first and their families second with a liquid (ALCOHOLE) which costs an arm and a leg to get and is so destructive...
I don’t understand how legislators play god with the legalization of pot a substance that has many beneficial affects on the human body. It is totally demented
 

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Good day JLM, it is a bad way of having fun for sure, exception though a good glass of wine is a compliment to good food and good company, nothing wrong with that tradition. It becomes obnoxiously taxing to see people from all walks of life (professionals and none) having destroyed their body first and their families second with a liquid (ALCOHOLE) which costs an arm and a leg to get and is so destructive...
I don’t understand how legislators play god with the legalization of pot a substance that has many beneficial affects on the human body. It is totally demented

You don't have to look much farther than Big Pharma for that. It's a weed and therefore cannot be patented. They are in the business of selling drugs. They don't want a free competition out their that cannot control.
 

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For some people, addiction is more possible than others. A lot of people get by without an addiction. Soc is misleading with his "facts".

Addiction is a personality trait. Not everyone is an addict and not all people who have an addictive personality become addicted to substances. Some people are addicted to food, sex, co-dependent relationships, postage stamps.... We have barely scratched the surface of understanding the human mind.
 
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JLM

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Addiction is a personality trait. Not everyone is an addict and not all people who have an addictive personality become addicted to substances. Some people are addicted to food, sex, co-dependent relationships, postage stamps.... We have barely scratched the surface of understanding the human mind.

Glad to see more wisdom coming out of the Arrow country. YOu're bang on. just from personal experience I know you are right- I drank like a fish for 25 years because I liked it- most people considered me to be alcoholic. Then one day I decided it was taking more out of me than I was getting out of it. Now I get drunk once or twice a year, because I still like it, but prefer coffee. I've heard it said that self-destructive people will just turn to another addiction if they give up one. So to me the problem is more with the person than the substance.