You mention the word 'kill' far too often, and seem to be finding excuses to
kill something, how about looking in the mirror, and think about that species,
they are the ones who kill far too often for no apparant reason.
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You mention the word 'kill' far too often, and seem to be finding excuses to
kill something, how about looking in the mirror, and think about that species,
they are the ones who kill far too often for no apparant reason.
Because it's your yard and you are charged with it's care. No one has the right to have their pet use anything you own. But it's up to you to catch the cat and turn it over to the pound. If that results in the cat being put down, "thems the breaks".
If that bothers the owner, pity they choose to allow their beloved pet to be killed.
There is a method to it but it works when used properly.
I have three cats who have no problem living indoors for over ten years now. All happy, all healthy. There is no reason that a person should allow a cat or dog loose in any city.
As for damages, webcams are pretty cheap and about all you need is to show that the pet has entered your property and caused damages along with the identity of the pet which is evident in a good clear picture or video of the pet on your property doing the deed. Show your damages and the cost to have them professionally repaired and you should win your case plus costs.
No need to shoot anything or anyone.
Aahh! c'mon now........It's the cowboy way
......one behind the ear.....handy garbage can.....problem solved.....quick.....:lol::lol:;-)
Seriously though......when I purchased my house 22 years ago....there was a neighbor's cat that kept spraying the back door..(what a smell)....and I had a crow problem on garbage day.....
Since there was no house across the street at the time....one .22 BBcap solved both problems.....I didn't let the garbage men pick up the crow that morning.....left it on the lawn all day as a warning to the other crows...(they are smart birds)
I have rarely had crows in my garbage since.....And I guess the cat owner must have got the word because I never had to wash the back door for that reason again.....
Since there was no house across the street at the time....one .22 BBcap solved both problems.....I didn't let the garbage men pick up the crow that morning.....left it on the lawn all day as a warning to the other crows...(they are smart birds)
I have rarely had crows in my garbage since.....And I guess the cat owner must have got the word because I never had to wash the back door for that reason again.....
You have done nothing to make a logical argument, only accuse me of using the word kill too much. Bravo. It is clear that you value the freedom of your cat above the death of wildlife, yet the word kill bothers you. Do I kill cats? No. Do I like it when cats OR wildlife die needlessly? No. But for the sake of this argument death must be considered. If you can't wrap your head around that, then I am sorry you are so sensitive. You used the word kill to describe what your cat does to birds, and then justified it by saying that it fulfils a need for your cat. So, you are ok with needless death, as long as you are passively allowing it, and not actively doing the killing. That hypocrisy is very plain to me. When it comes down to it, you don't care about all the suffering your cat inflicts, only that it is happy and fulfilled, and given liberties that no other carnivorous pet would enjoy. Thank you for making your apathy toward the plight of wild animals clear.
I hope you only eat pre-packaged meat then so you don't have to think of all the killing that takes place to support you. I'd hate for you to ever feel guilt. That would be inhumane.
FYI, It's not that I want to kill cats, but I think feral cats should be removed when possible. TNR is horrible, because it denies the ecological impacts of an introduced predator, by allowing cats to continue the slaughter. If you think TNR is the only way to do it, then you are saying that a wild cats life is more valuable than the life of any wild animal. So killing (lethal removing, does that sound cuter to you?) is the only answer in that scenario, unless you really believe that wild cats are somehow on a higher plane than the animals they are exterminating. If you would rather live in a homogenized world where the only birds around are house sparrows, pigeons, and starlings, and don't care that your kids will never know the beauty of a meadowlark bravely singing on the prairie, then I guess that is sad, and just another example of how we destroy the world around us, even with good intentions. That is where this irrational cat love will take us at some point.
I'm glad your cat is happy. The next time you see it with a bird in mouth, imagine the babies in a nest somewhere starving to death because their mom will never return. It is absolutely disgusting to think that is merely a price to pay for allowing your cat to roam.
I'm glad your cat is happy. The next time you see it with a bird in mouth, imagine the babies in a nest somewhere starving to death because their mom will never return. It is absolutely disgusting to think that is merely a price to pay for allowing your cat to roam.
Thank you for judging me and telling me what I think
Being passionate about something does not make you full of hate. I'm sorry you feel that way, just because I am passionate about something that you are not. Just because I think you are being hypocritical doesn't mean I think you are living a sad life, so I wonder why you seem to think I am.
Just because you do good things for animals sometimes, like feeding birds, does not make it a good thing that you let your cat maim and kill wildlife, or justify it in any way.
Thank you for suggesting that I take a hike. I am actually planning a birding excursion today. Beats writing more nonsense to people who will always consider the supposed needs of their pet over the struggle of wildlife to survive.
Being passionate about something does not make you full of hate. I'm sorry you feel that way, just because I am passionate about something that you are not. Just because I think you are being hypocritical doesn't mean I think you are living a sad life, so I wonder why you seem to think I am.
Just because you do good things for animals sometimes, like feeding birds, does not make it a good thing that you let your cat maim and kill wildlife, or justify it in any way.
Thank you for suggesting that I take a hike. I am actually planning a birding excursion today. Beats writing more nonsense to people who will always consider the supposed needs of their pet over the struggle of wildlife to survive.
Actually, I suppose the best way to get all that hate and criticism out of my system would be a rifle, and some kitty plunking. That must be the only way for me to carry on with my sad, hateful life.
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I live in a city with cat by-laws. I think they're brilliant. We rarely see cats roaming, and I can go dig in my dirt without coming across cat gifts. The reasoning is sound... cats are destructive, they kill off wildlife, they wreck property (as even neutered cats sometimes spray other people's places, lawn furniture, etc).
Although, I will admit that my cat does roam from time to time. It's been next to impossible to break him of his mousing habits that he developed before we rescued him. But, I feel no need to apologize for his meager kills when compared to mousetraps, poison, cars, etc. I live in a city, I have no delusions about there being a natural environment here for wildlife.
In my opinion a balanced view is a wonderful thing, and while I'm not going to stress over the cat I have right now getting out hunting the odd night, I'm also not likely to replace him once he passes away.
Although, I will admit that my cat does roam from time to time. It's been next to impossible to break him of his mousing habits that he developed before we rescued him. But, I feel no need to apologize for his meager kills when compared to mousetraps, poison, cars, etc. I live in a city, I have no delusions about there being a natural environment here for wildlife.
In my opinion a balanced view is a wonderful thing, and while I'm not going to stress over the cat I have right now getting out hunting the odd night, I'm also not likely to replace him once he passes away.
Once my cat passes away, I will immediately go to the spca and buy another one, or
possibly two, it is more enjoyable having two cats. I will save a life or two, and nurture our lives.
They will be spayed/neutered at a very young age, never have kittens,( and you
know somelthing,) there are people out there who think that is cruel, doesn't
matter which way you turn, someone will disagree with something you agree with,
that's life, just find your balance. When I had my registered kennel, (and I only
sold puppies with signed 'non breeding contracts,) there was one man who went
up one side me and down the other, preaching that I had no right to take away
the breeding ability of a purebred dog, as he/she should be allowed to reproduce
it's own. Well it took a while, but he finally left my house, without a puppy.
When the winters are harsh, I will save the birds, they seem to appreciate that,
and my cat is entertained watching them out on the patio, sometimes 40 of
them at a time, filling their tummys, so they will get through the cold night
stuck in some tree somewhere, freezing temperatures. Most of our winters
here on the island aren't harsh, but this last one was, and the birds aren't
prepared for that much snow, and cold.
Life isn't perfect, and we could drive ourselves crazy trying to make it that way,
just find your balance, as best as you can, and live your own life, and answer
to yourself, not others.
possibly two, it is more enjoyable having two cats. I will save a life or two, and nurture our lives.
They will be spayed/neutered at a very young age, never have kittens,( and you
know somelthing,) there are people out there who think that is cruel, doesn't
matter which way you turn, someone will disagree with something you agree with,
that's life, just find your balance. When I had my registered kennel, (and I only
sold puppies with signed 'non breeding contracts,) there was one man who went
up one side me and down the other, preaching that I had no right to take away
the breeding ability of a purebred dog, as he/she should be allowed to reproduce
it's own. Well it took a while, but he finally left my house, without a puppy.
When the winters are harsh, I will save the birds, they seem to appreciate that,
and my cat is entertained watching them out on the patio, sometimes 40 of
them at a time, filling their tummys, so they will get through the cold night
stuck in some tree somewhere, freezing temperatures. Most of our winters
here on the island aren't harsh, but this last one was, and the birds aren't
prepared for that much snow, and cold.
Life isn't perfect, and we could drive ourselves crazy trying to make it that way,
just find your balance, as best as you can, and live your own life, and answer
to yourself, not others.
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You'd think that whoever was operating the camera would warn them away!8O I guess they thought it would be funnier letting them catch hold of them.;-):lol:
LOL! Hilarious! I love the "Not house broken either" sentence with the sad smilie at the end of it.:lol::lol:
Whomever is operating the camera....That's not THEIR Kids!!!:lol::lol::lol:
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